Topic: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread - page 131. (Read 301481 times)

You could probably run S4s on p2pool if you just add +1500 to your username when connecting to it.

I have a public p2pool node (0.5% fee ) you can try it on at
p2pool.ckpool.org:9332
(just added the dns entry, 167.160.36.109 if dns hasn't caught up)

This is not meant for long term mining. It's just for experimentation.

Coupons given for  antminer S2 buyers . I got 14 coupons $200. I bought a 37 Antminer S3 and did not get any coupons.
Patch 2 was cheaper than  patch1, It is not Weird.
  not this time https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Golden Week (China) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_%28China%29
Three days of paid holiday are given, and the surrounding weekends are re-arranged so that workers in Chinese companies always have seven continuous days of holiday. These national holidays were first started by the government for the PRC's National Day in 1999 and are primarily intended to help expand the domestic tourism market and improve the national standard of living, as well as allowing people to make long-distance family visits. The Golden Weeks are consequently periods of greatly heightened travel activity.

An estimated 28 million Chinese traveled during the first National Day Golden Week in 1999.[2] In 2007, this number had increased to over 120 million



Antminer S4 Patch 1 buyers got all the $50 coupons.  I hope to get one  of the Patch 2 purchase.

(I can't do Eligius on principle because of Luke Jr. and P2Pool isn't optimal with my hardware)

which pool are you talking about? pls dont tell me Ghash

First, allow me to introduce myself.  I'm the biggest Bitmain Sucker ever, apparently.  I bought the S4 the day it went on sale and, although I took delivery quickly, getting in early screwed me over in more ways than I can count.  So let's count them:

1. Bitmain offered coupons to buyers of their earlier products to knock $200 off the sticker price of the S4, but not to buyers of the only earlier product that I'd bought (a pair of S3's) so such fail, much weep, No coupon for me when I ordered mine (and although they became widely available from other customers over the weeks after the S4's went on sale, that was weeks too late for me cuz I was so quick to pull the trigger).  No soup for you!  Wonderful, punish the customer.

2. Bitmain lowered the price of the S4 for everyone days later, knocking off $200, to drum up more "late adopters" I assume.  Punish the early enthusiastic cheerleader customers, reward the skeptics.

3. Oh yeah the thing didn't work right and we're still waiting for a fix.  Top it off by ignoring the customer as you celebrate the longest holiday the west has ever effin heard of.  Which, by the way, again I say, whaaat? the whole country takes a whole week off? what's the excuse?  Tree day, squirrel day?  Y'know far, far, FAR be it from me to  begrudge anyone their slackage, but a whole week of traveling or something while my just-launched $1400 miner waits for a firmware update *and* the next looming Difficulty of Damocles hangs ponderously over our heads too this week?  I dont think that's much wow service -- thanks for your very slack amaze.  At my job we're not allowed to launch big new changes on a Freakin' Friday and then go home to sleep late for the weekend.  You ship a new miner all over the world.  And then your whole country -- wait for it -- travels.

So Bitmain tainers, I hope you had a nice holiday.  My wife is gonna divorce me <-- not your fault, of course.  I know I'm addicted to gambling with bitcoin mining hardware and chasing Don Quixote-style the ROI pot of gold at the end of a rainbow of evaporating mining returns that is boiling off just as I reach out to touch it, from the heat generated by rising network difficulty and spin applied by the simultaneously falling price of bitcoin this week (month, and year).  ASIC hardware manufacturers are just the most obvious symptoms of that malaise, not the problem :-)  At least in China the FTC can't seize their business lol shh, don't jinx it!

Great. So. While I may acknowledge, grudgingly, that my madness has caused me to break up with reality, it does not make me irrational! (does it?) After all, there are still laws of this universe (wait, what?) and rules with their own sort of internal consistency -- even if only we, the afflicted, can comprehend them.  And in my delusional world, dammit, I find -- to my own horror, yes -- that I'm now interested in yet another pair of S3's ...and the Batch 10's are finally on sale --- woot!

So of course I rush in (as fools are wont to do).  But their hubris thankfully stopped me this time (or at least slowed me down): now I see that Bitmain, in their infinite generosity, have bestowed upon my account... A Gift: a Coupon no less. For me.  Aww, you shouldn't have!  Oooh, don't I feel like Charlie, finding a Golden Ticket to the Wonka Factory at the bottom of my cereal box now! 

But alas, they Still Just Don't Get It:

  Coupon ID: xxx
  Info: AntMiner S4 Coupon 50 USD
  Total Count: 1
  Use Count: 0
  Validity Time: 2014-09-28 17:27:00~2014-10-27 17:27:00
  Option: [Donate] button

Whaaaat? And they "gave me" this, apparently, one week AFTER they charged me full freight for it?? The Chinese Chocolate Factory has clearly failed to grok the rules of the universe into which they themselves have lured and entrapped me, because A.) Willie sold me this dream, by finally putting pairs of highly overclockable Batch 10 S3+'s back on sale this morning, but then 2.) he's gone and completely blown it for me by cruelly issuing me a Golden Ticket that's for too small a discount, good for too short a time and, only useful to pray at the alter of the Dreaded Evil Sith Lord Villain -- the S4 -- that, while they've been reveling in their holiday and ignoring our agony, we the inhabitants of their ASICverse have come to Truly Hate.  And the irony is, that by going on holiday and continually ignoring the ensuing customer support catastrofrack, they themselves taught us to loathe it so.  Such uncool.

Anybody want a $50 USD coupon for a S4, the big loud-breathing Darth Vader of Antminers?  This golden ticket expires in three weeks and I'm taking bets as to whether or not they will have released the firmware by then, necessary to make it -- you know -- actually work and mine at a pool at its "guaranteed" 2TH speed.  Such betting not so much.

Maybe Bitmain will issue we, their biggest suckers, who bought an S4 at the its highest cost using no coupons -- I dunno, call it a new "Sucker Coupon", a "Bronze Ticket" if you will, for a new Batch 10 S3 (or two).  Free shipping, for instance, would be nice.  Or maybe they'll just continue to Milk us Suckers.  Sluggo would be such proud.

thanks,

-dave

Isn't that the truth As much as I want to mine there (and I did for quite some time), I can't rationalize it given the cheaper and more profitable alternatives :|

My S4 is operating at the stock setting of 0725 which corresponds to .725 Vdc.

What are the valid increments if I want to up the core voltage on the chips?
What would be the highest voltage - the technical upper limit?
Are there valid steps, or do you just up it in .1v increments?

Thanks.

I have the same problem with the Antminer S4 with Elgius Pool.  This is the reply I received from BitMain.

Hi,
please set the difficulties setting with pool to a lower value to try.
Btcguild and ghash both work perfectly fine share difficulty manually set to 2048. you may use the 2 pools to try first.
engineers are investing the issue, please wait for the update patiently:)


Best Regards

BITMAIN

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2014-10-08 5:26 GMT+08:00

Dear Bitmain
 
I have a problem with my new Antminer S4 which has just arrived.
 
The display and the software show a hashing speed of around 2TH/s but my pool (Elgius) is only showing 20 – 50GH/s.    I also have a S2 on the same account which is working correctly at 1TH/s and the settings are the same  (Workers are AntS2 and AntS4)

That's ~cost price shipping. No one makes money on shipping. You can check that by trying to send a 13kg package the other way round the world.

GEEZ louise, what happened to Bitmain's free shipping model?

Guess when BTC price is this low, everyone gets f@cked, even the manufacturers.  Gots to skim off some profit somewhere.

I feel your pain, turns out it was a good thing they overpriced it as much as they did - prevented me from buying it...

But now they're charging $135 (USD) for UPS shipping.  Such Wow not.

Haha Dave you made my day!!

Pure awesome.

It's been a tough three days!

Day 1:


Not holding my breath!  (Well yes, actually I most certainly am, and turning a bit blue in fact...)

Day 2:



From your mouth to God's ear.

Day 3:


Thanks for all this great information, for investigating the issue, for identifying the underlying cause, and most of all, thanks for fixing it!  Thanks, in fact for doing all of the stuff that Bitmain should be doing for its customers, for the money we paid to them.  Can we be your customers now, too?  You are so much more proactive at fixing your free software than they are, after bundling it with their so not-free hardware!

I'm sure they will incorporate your free fix Real Soon Now ^TM and fail spectacularly to recognize your contributions with appropriate financial renumerations, so in the meantime, time being money and all, Con Kolivas, would you consider hooking us up with this hacked customized version of your Most Awesome cgminer, um you know -- directly?  Don't be shy, go ahead -- SELL ME a cgminer binary that includes a workaround for the S4's underpowered controller hardware!  I (by which i mean me) and we (by which I mean the legions of other S4 owners gnashing their teeth in pain all night, right about now as i am) would be happy to pay for such free software, delivered in such a timely manner.  Beat Bitmain to the punch and fix their hardware with a piece of improved software.  Package it as as an elegantly pain-killing already-compiled drop-in binary replacement that their your customers can simply wget on into place from an ssh shell session like the 4.6.0 for S3's (a so-called "firmware" update is not necessary, but for those not comfortable wget-ing and ssh-ing, a package could probably be built to ease their pain too, and should probably be priced just a bit higher :-)

If you need anything, anything at all, like ssh access to an S4 such as my own, to use as a guinea pig rig, I am of course very eager to hook you up.  Coffee?  Adderall?  A foot rub?  Anything you need, mate!  I have several fine quality first born children who are negotiable, as well!

Someone elsewhere said Bitmain should be paying you, and they should.  We should also -- someone the hell should.  Open Source software development is so often a thankless job, and *always* an underpaid one.  So since I suspect you're one of those altruistic developers who are made a bit uncomfortable by the idea of selling a hacked customized version of your wonderful open source gift to the world, I will repost this here, where so many of us owe you so many well-deserved thank$:


I do confess that my donation is mostly thanks in advance :-) I've shamelessly used your software for personal gain now for quite some time without donating a bitcent so yeah also as thanks in arrears too for, you know, cgminer and ckpool and all that other stuff you do too, of course :-)

And --wait for it -- yes do you hear that?  It's a growing, thundering, sound.  From off in the distance... yes, it's a stampede of other S4 Suckers Early Adopter like myself, all clamoring to thank you in advance for that fixed cgminer binary too, with their donations of much generous very btc wow paying it forward for open source (certainly not so their ROI may go forth to the moon) and cuz, dude, we know your time is valuable as well :-) 

Hoping you get paid motivated enough to build me a better cgminer soon! 

-dave,

BTC Guild has been crap for almost a year now.

You can see BTCGuild luck on the graph at the bottom of this page:

https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=pplns

the graph also as an awesome zoom interface

B10 is up now: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140917060843699l3bEXYxL06C0

As of this time yesterday Slush was running at 150% luck. BTCGuild doesn't provide shares per block in order to calculate luck, but it wouldn't take much of a run of bad luck to make it seem like your 1TH/s @ 150% is similar to 2TH/s if BTCGuild had some bad luck.

Incorrect. The issues are definately hardware related & are batch related:


The upcoming firmware release, if bitmain even bother with it, is a workaround devised by ckolivas in an effort to address the hardware issue.

Thank ckolivas for doing bitmains job & providing an accurate answer, and solution - as always