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Topic: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread - page 155. (Read 301481 times)

newbie
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September 26, 2014, 12:52:36 PM
S4'B1 is limited in quantity, as it is the first mass production after the development stage.

B2 will be available when our sales team get solid confirmation from our production team, and the quantity will be much better. Thanks.

Any news on whether your going to reduce price? and when is the S3 coming back for sale and what is the intended offer?
hero member
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https://www.bitmain.com
September 26, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
S4'B1 is limited in quantity, as it is the first mass production after the development stage.

B2 will be available when our sales team get solid confirmation from our production team, and the quantity will be much better. Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
September 26, 2014, 12:36:09 PM
While debating religion, it appears S4-B1 has SOLD OUT!

Do you believe this to be a marketing ploy, putting up S4-B2 or are they actually selling these to crazy people?

Hopefully they will pi*s of all the people who did buy them by selling the batch 2 for $800 including shipping ><
newbie
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September 26, 2014, 12:30:22 PM
While debating religion, it appears S4-B1 has SOLD OUT!

Do you believe this to be a marketing ploy, putting up S4-B2 or are they actually selling these to crazy people?
member
Activity: 61
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September 26, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
So what makes you think it should be less than $400? People like you years ago made fun of bitcoin and said the same crap.
Who said about less, buddy?
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Also, I don't think religion applies to bitcoin, you can "Oh, God..." all you want at your local church Smiley Smiley Smiley
Please stop this.  Undecided God is the Universe, BTC is a happening in this Universe, so please stop this unnecessary bla-bla...

Take your own advice bud.

You mean to tell me you were implying it should only be $400? Your post complained about people thinking it should be over $400. Clearly you are either trolling or a clueless person.

Let's keep god and bitcoin seperate, no one cares about what religion you practice.
legendary
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September 26, 2014, 11:19:59 AM
What happened to the Bitmain without BS/overpriced preorders?

I can't beleive people are actually buying this.

I'll bet in a week or two when their sales drop down to nothing they will announce the real S4 at ~0.45 w/gh for less than $1000.

His gone, once you gone big you forgetting roots.

I would say week will be enough to drop the price.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
September 26, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Bitmain, I tried to find info on this in the Hosting Terms and Conditions but couldn't find it.  If we buy an S4 and with Hosting, can we get the unit shipped to us when it is no longer profitable to run?  Or do you offer to buy it back for parts at that point in time?  

Under the terms.

1.6 User should notice Umisoo two weeks in advance if it need off-shelves the miners after the Terms is expired, otherwise, will default for continuation.

1.7 User has the right to request Umisoo ship the miner to the pointed address after the Terms expire. The shipping cost is on the user’s own.
legendary
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September 26, 2014, 10:58:58 AM
Bitmain, I tried to find info on this in the Hosting Terms and Conditions but couldn't find it.  If we buy an S4 and with Hosting, can we get the unit shipped to us when it is no longer profitable to run?  Or do you offer to buy it back for parts at that point in time? 
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 26, 2014, 10:47:11 AM
So what makes you think it should be less than $400? People like you years ago made fun of bitcoin and said the same crap.
Who said about less, buddy?
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Also, I don't think religion applies to bitcoin, you can "Oh, God..." all you want at your local church Smiley Smiley Smiley
Please stop this.  Undecided God is the Universe, BTC is a happening in this Universe, so please stop this unnecessary bla-bla...

I agree with you!! Smiley Smiley

I'm glad the trolls who can't math agree with each-other. My recommendation Sally & Rabin is that you each buy 2 S4s immediately before Batch #1 sells out! You're absolutely right, Bitcoin will be worth an incomprehensible sum of $local_currency in the future! And you are too terrible at math to realize than rather than being a millionaire with X million, you will only have .75*X million. But you know what? That's okay, because you'll still be millionaires, and that's all you'll see, and that is probably enough.

In the meantime, we have irrational actors running a substantial percentage of the Bitcoin network, like Sally and Rabin over here, who are a substantial part of the reason why the hashrate (and thus the network difficulty) continue to go up at a break-neck pace despite the profitability per-coin-mined going down. And irrational miners are the reason why the hashrate will continue to trend up at such a substantial rate. So buy your S4, buy two. Mine 'till your heart's content, it makes things tougher on reasonable miners, but not substantially. And you'll have spent far more time, money, and energy getting to where you end up than I will have, and you'll still have fewer Bitcoins than I. So I'm cool with that.

Great post!!!

A little harsh on wannabe miners (like myself really) who want to get in on the mining game, but, definitely justified in relation to the crazy price of the S4.....although for me it would be .35*X million due to shipping, import duty and high electricity costs! Wink
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
September 26, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Another portion of hostile bullshit. All I have said is that BTC will grow in price. Nothing more. I will not buy S4, if it's so important for you. I do not either call on anybody to buy it.

What's wrong with people such as prael in this doomed world?..  Undecided
full member
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September 26, 2014, 09:58:02 AM
So what makes you think it should be less than $400? People like you years ago made fun of bitcoin and said the same crap.
Who said about less, buddy?
Quote
Also, I don't think religion applies to bitcoin, you can "Oh, God..." all you want at your local church Smiley Smiley Smiley
Please stop this.  Undecided God is the Universe, BTC is a happening in this Universe, so please stop this unnecessary bla-bla...

I agree with you!! Smiley Smiley

I'm glad the trolls who can't math agree with each-other. My recommendation Sally & Rabin is that you each buy 2 S4s immediately before Batch #1 sells out! You're absolutely right, Bitcoin will be worth an incomprehensible sum of $local_currency in the future! And you are too terrible at math to realize than rather than being a millionaire with X million, you will only have .75*X million. But you know what? That's okay, because you'll still be millionaires, and that's all you'll see, and that is probably enough.

In the meantime, we have irrational actors running a substantial percentage of the Bitcoin network, like Sally and Rabin over here, who are a substantial part of the reason why the hashrate (and thus the network difficulty) continue to go up at a break-neck pace despite the profitability per-coin-mined going down. And irrational miners are the reason why the hashrate will continue to trend up at such a substantial rate. So buy your S4, buy two. Mine 'till your heart's content, it makes things tougher on reasonable miners, but not substantially. And you'll have spent far more time, money, and energy getting to where you end up than I will have, and you'll still have fewer Bitcoins than I. So I'm cool with that.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 509
September 26, 2014, 09:44:40 AM
What happened to the Bitmain without BS/overpriced preorders?

I can't beleive people are actually buying this.

I'll bet in a week or two when their sales drop down to nothing they will announce the real S4 at ~0.45 w/gh for less than $1000.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
September 26, 2014, 09:33:59 AM
Have we heard what the decibel level is on the S4 yet? With a server PSU and those 4 large fans I have a strong feeling this is going to be data center loud.

Yes, I think people are in for a huge surprise when they get it home... I know those fans, they are jet engine loud....
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
September 26, 2014, 08:23:44 AM
So what makes you think it should be less than $400? People like you years ago made fun of bitcoin and said the same crap.
Who said about less, buddy?
Quote
Also, I don't think religion applies to bitcoin, you can "Oh, God..." all you want at your local church Smiley Smiley Smiley
Please stop this.  Undecided God is the Universe, BTC is a happening in this Universe, so please stop this unnecessary bla-bla...
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 26, 2014, 08:21:03 AM
TOO EXPENSIVE

DO NOT BUY ! you are just flushing your btc/fiat down the toilet bowl !

As usual Batch 1 ... eh hmm eh hmmmm just like other S's

I'll wait out for my Min Buy Qty of 30 units.

Imagine that s2 1th/s one month ago was on euro's 1250€, because i'm from The Netherlands and count in this currency. And now 2th/s for 1170€. I think you have to buy before and of the year. And whtat you think when it go to Nasdaq, this s4 will increase at least 2 times until 2016. When you 12,50 btc each block. So better grap your chance now partner!!!

Does somebody know the shippings costs , because i gonna order 1 tonight, but i can buy it in The Netherlands for 1530€. That something like 1850$ i guess.
So what is better to do at this moment?

What is better to do?  Not lose 1.5 BTC by buying this rip off miner.

I know what you mean, but you know the guy who wants to mine 10% of Bitcoin. I have 3th/s now. Tonight i order this one. And i will do more. Finally i invest 200000$ but you are far above the difficulty and it pays it back. Ok i spend allready thousands of Dollars for this, but they get more efficiently and the price will increase. In November i gonna buy the 12th/s and i will mine with 20th/s 8 btc or something. 12th/s is around 8000€. And i will buy more and more and more. Finally i will have my payback, don't you think. But buying is also a good thing. I also bought 2.15btc today.  But without miners no Btc. And when it will go to Nasdaq the mining people will laugh the hardest of all i think. Don't you?

You buy the S4 for 3.5 BTC or whatever it is, you'll never mine back 3.5, maybe 2 BTC if you're extremely lucky.  Just buy Bitcoins off an exchange, Sally.   Wink

At ghash i still make with 3 th/s 1.5 btc in the months at least. So finally i will get it back but it take months. But when i invest in something i don't invest for one time. When i have 20th/s i don't have to putmy own money in it. And the electricity i pay from the rewards ofcourse. And i can buy a new miner + pay electricity and i can even payout to my bankaccount.
But the risk is that there will be 12000€ investment will be gone. But Bitcoin is the future so i will have it good in the future, remember my words! Wink
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
September 26, 2014, 08:13:58 AM
Have we heard what the decibel level is on the S4 yet? With a server PSU and those 4 large fans I have a strong feeling this is going to be data center loud.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 26, 2014, 08:13:43 AM
TOO EXPENSIVE

DO NOT BUY ! you are just flushing your btc/fiat down the toilet bowl !

As usual Batch 1 ... eh hmm eh hmmmm just like other S's

I'll wait out for my Min Buy Qty of 30 units.

Imagine that s2 1th/s one month ago was on euro's 1250€, because i'm from The Netherlands and count in this currency. And now 2th/s for 1170€. I think you have to buy before and of the year. And whtat you think when it go to Nasdaq, this s4 will increase at least 2 times until 2016. When you 12,50 btc each block. So better grap your chance now partner!!!

Does somebody know the shippings costs , because i gonna order 1 tonight, but i can buy it in The Netherlands for 1530€. That something like 1850$ i guess.
So what is better to do at this moment?

What is better to do?  Not lose 1.5 BTC by buying this rip off miner.

I know what you mean, but you know the guy who wants to mine 10% of Bitcoin. I have 3th/s now. Tonight i order this one. And i will do more. Finally i invest 200000$ but you are far above the difficulty and it pays it back. Ok i spend allready thousands of Dollars for this, but they get more efficiently and the price will increase. In November i gonna buy the 12th/s and i will mine with 20th/s 8 btc or something. 12th/s is around 8000€. And i will buy more and more and more. Finally i will have my payback, don't you think. But buying is also a good thing. I also bought 2.15btc today.  But without miners no Btc. And when it will go to Nasdaq the mining people will laugh the hardest of all i think. Don't you?

You buy the S4 for 3.5 BTC or whatever it is, you'll never mine back 3.5, maybe 2 BTC if you're extremely lucky.  Just buy Bitcoins off an exchange, Sally.   Wink
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 783
better everyday ♥
September 26, 2014, 07:56:57 AM
TOO EXPENSIVE

DO NOT BUY ! you are just flushing your btc/fiat down the toilet bowl !

As usual Batch 1 ... eh hmm eh hmmmm just like other S's

I'll wait out for my Min Buy Qty of 30 units.

Imagine that s2 1th/s one month ago was on euro's 1250€, because i'm from The Netherlands and count in this currency. And now 2th/s for 1170€. I think you have to buy before and of the year. And whtat you think when it go to Nasdaq, this s4 will increase at least 2 times until 2016. When you 12,50 btc each block. So better grap your chance now partner!!!

Does somebody know the shippings costs , because i gonna order 1 tonight, but i can buy it in The Netherlands for 1530€. That something like 1850$ i guess.
So what is better to do at this moment?

What is better to do?  Not lose 1.5 BTC by buying this rip off miner.

You buy the S4 for 3.5 BTC or whatever it is, you'll never mine back 3.5, maybe 2 BTC if you're extremely lucky.  Just buy Bitcoins off an exchange, Sally.   Wink
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
September 26, 2014, 07:53:17 AM
TOO EXPENSIVE

DO NOT BUY ! you are just flushing your btc/fiat down the toilet bowl !

As usual Batch 1 ... eh hmm eh hmmmm just like other S's

I'll wait out for my Min Buy Qty of 30 units.

Imagine that s2 1th/s one month ago was on euro's 1250€, because i'm from The Netherlands and count in this currency. And now 2th/s for 1170€. I think you have to buy before and of the year. And whtat you think when it go to Nasdaq, this s4 will increase at least 2 times until 2016. When you 12,50 btc each block. So better grap your chance now partner!!!

Does somebody know the shippings costs , because i gonna order 1 tonight, but i can buy it in The Netherlands for 1530€. That something like 1850$ i guess.
So what is better to do at this moment?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 504
September 26, 2014, 07:37:29 AM
Listing batch 2 is just a sales tatic to make people panic that batch 1 is selling out and to order them ASAP to ensure you get them straight away. Clever bitmain. Clever

Funny, it was like that even for S3.
These batches are just marketing techniques.
I'm looking for another era like good old times of Bitmain.
Move BTC to above $1000  Grin
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