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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 234. (Read 528055 times)

legendary
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That is consistent with my experience.  I have had many new cables/connectors under high loads that stay nice and cool, but a few months later they start getting hot.  I have also noticed variance even between samples of high quality cables.  After many negative experiences with KncMiner Neptunes that only have one PCIe, I plan to use all three on my S7s for backup and redundancy.  Burning my house down to save a few $'s on cables is not worth it for me.

Today I got the smell of smoke from my Corsair CX750M

It was connected with one S7 board and S7 controller.


Were all the PSUs connected to the same wall?

Ground needs to be the same.

My advice is to unplug it if you smell smoke.  I would inspect the miner to see where it's coming from for sure.  See if PSU if inside it or more likely a PCIe cord.

Upgrade PSU I highly suggest.  You can use PSU's for multiple generations of miners they will pay off.   Also if you downsize the nicer PSU's hold better value then lower quality. 
legendary
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That is consistent with my experience.  I have had many new cables/connectors under high loads that stay nice and cool, but a few months later they start getting hot.  I have also noticed variance even between samples of high quality cables.  After many negative experiences with KncMiner Neptunes that only have one PCIe, I plan to use all three on my S7s for backup and redundancy.  Burning my house down to save a few $'s on cables is not worth it for me.

Today I got the smell of smoke from my Corsair CX750M

It was connected with one S7 board and S7 controller.


Were all the PSUs connected to the same wall?

Ground needs to be the same.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
So I have decided to overclock one of my machines, Just to see, and well I would like some feedback, Temps are good, the error rate is good but what are peoples thoughts on the maximum safe frequency.

Or do people think this is already too far, Im not going to run this for long but would like to test for 24 hours with this machine, My ambient temps are low (8c-14c) and im using 2x EVGA 1300w gold PSUs on this one machine.





post a screen shot after 1 hour run time

post a screen shot after 3 hours run time

then I will give an opinion.

for now you have a 7 minute screen shot which is too short to make a guess on my part.

hint if your temps stay under 50 and your errors under 0.0050% you are in good shape
newbie
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So I have decided to overclock one of my machines, Just to see, and well I would like some feedback, Temps are good, the error rate is good but what are peoples thoughts on the maximum safe frequency.

Or do people think this is already too far, Im not going to run this for long but would like to test for 24 hours with this machine, My ambient temps are low (8c-14c) and im using 2x EVGA 1300w gold PSUs on this one machine.

http://i63.tinypic.com/n3an43.png

legendary
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someone here who is thinking about mineral oil cooling, like this:
(immersion)

or is this cheaper?
(fan)

Fan's are by far cheaper.  That is why almost every miner is one with fan's.

There are a few water cooled miners, but very few.  Half have been modded to get water cooling.  It's been a while since I've seen a mod even using immersion.  
legendary
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Replacement fan got here already. Like a rocket.
Excellent service from Yoshi

I waited for my DOA arrived S5+ miner FAN from China only 1,5 months  Grin

But I have received during this time  several  repaired S5+ blades. Also Excellent service from Sherry Liu .

Tomorrow comes six orders from Bitmaintech. From last orders I payd taxes 3330 EURO and 58 sents.  Cry

Tomorrow I have to pay only about 1200 EURO  Kiss


hero member
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Trustless IceColdWallet
someone here who is thinking about mineral oil cooling, like this:


or is this cheaper?
member
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any updates on delivery ? i dont think there will be any "new" models of miners till delivery is up to schedule ? ordered on 25th last mth, nth yet for me.
Towards the end of this week for oct17 and oct21

I ordered 10/25 batch 3.
Shipped out 10/30, set for arrival tomorrow.


did you receive an email from bmt informing you that it has shipped or how did you know ?

grrr, guess i just gotta be a little more patient.

Yes on this batch 3, I did receive an email and update on the bitmain website with tracking number.
legendary
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Mine Mine Mine
any updates on delivery ? i dont think there will be any "new" models of miners till delivery is up to schedule ? ordered on 25th last mth, nth yet for me.
Towards the end of this week for oct17 and oct21

I ordered 10/25 batch 3.
Shipped out 10/30, set for arrival tomorrow.


did you receive an email from bmt informing you that it has shipped or how did you know ?

grrr, guess i just gotta be a little more patient.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
I bet there would be demand for even a single board version.  Right now "home" miners are desperate for new gear that is both affordable and efficient.  Anything over $1000 I do not consider affordable for a home miner (never mind how fast the S7 sold at full retail+ pricing...), that's a serious expenditure, but a single board for a couple hundred bucks that is close to 1TH would be pretty freaking sweet.  And it should be able to run cool enough that the fan requirements wouldn't necessitate running the thing in a sound proof enclosure.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
is there going to be a batch 4?

they are most likely fixing to either introduce lite or drop the price to be competitive with others in December and especially by January.
I would be hugely surprised if they keep both the premium and the model.

Since they didn't use the model number ~ S6 ~ ... maybe that's what the 3.xTH/s "S7 lite" will be .....

With how cut throat the bitcoin hardware market is.... the absolute addiction to getting the best efficency, supply and demand ( no more S7's at 4.86TH/s )... I'd have to say that the 3.x TH/s S7 lite will be the same price as the  S7 B3. WHY NOT? Only game in town, till someone else comes along and creates some competition.... then and only then will there be lower price models.

bitmaintech can self mine at the high coin prices which are touching 360 usd.

I see them waiting a while before batch  4 and I see them selling a 2 board unit at a price rise per gh . 

if the 4860gh batch 3 was 1620 usd that was 33 cents a gh.

I can see a 3200gh batch 4 sell for 1200 usd which is  37.5 cents a gh

If coins keep rising it would sell.  Sell well.

Only problem is if they jack up price with coins so high right now.  I'm hoping they don't do to much of this.

Assuming leak is true on new lower specced one will be interesting.  I wonder if they went to 2 blades if so they should be able to sell for a decent amount less, guess it depends partially on how much more chips they put on hashing board assuming they do that.

I would pay them 1200 usd for a two board that does 3200gh as long as btc stays up and keeps ahead of diff.

right now since sept 4 price is 231 - 371 on coin base that is about 60.6%

and diff since sept 4 is up  about 16%
hero member
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Replacement fan got here already. Like a rocket.
Excellent service from Yoshi
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
is there going to be a batch 4?

they are most likely fixing to either introduce lite or drop the price to be competitive with others in December and especially by January.
I would be hugely surprised if they keep both the premium and the model.

Since they didn't use the model number ~ S6 ~ ... maybe that's what the 3.xTH/s "S7 lite" will be .....

With how cut throat the bitcoin hardware market is.... the absolute addiction to getting the best efficency, supply and demand ( no more S7's at 4.86TH/s )... I'd have to say that the 3.x TH/s S7 lite will be the same price as the  S7 B3. WHY NOT? Only game in town, till someone else comes along and creates some competition.... then and only then will there be lower price models.

bitmaintech can self mine at the high coin prices which are touching 360 usd.

I see them waiting a while before batch  4 and I see them selling a 2 board unit at a price rise per gh . 

if the 4860gh batch 3 was 1620 usd that was 33 cents a gh.

I can see a 3200gh batch 4 sell for 1200 usd which is  37.5 cents a gh

If coins keep rising it would sell.  Sell well.

Only problem is if they jack up price with coins so high right now.  I'm hoping they don't do to much of this.

Assuming leak is true on new lower specced one will be interesting.  I wonder if they went to 2 blades if so they should be able to sell for a decent amount less, guess it depends partially on how much more chips they put on hashing board assuming they do that.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
any updates on delivery ? i dont think there will be any "new" models of miners till delivery is up to schedule ? ordered on 25th last mth, nth yet for me.
Towards the end of this week for oct17 and oct21

I ordered 10/25 batch 3.
Shipped out 10/30, set for arrival tomorrow.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
is there going to be a batch 4?

they are most likely fixing to either introduce lite or drop the price to be competitive with others in December and especially by January.
I would be hugely surprised if they keep both the premium and the model.

Since they didn't use the model number ~ S6 ~ ... maybe that's what the 3.xTH/s "S7 lite" will be .....

With how cut throat the bitcoin hardware market is.... the absolute addiction to getting the best efficency, supply and demand ( no more S7's at 4.86TH/s )... I'd have to say that the 3.x TH/s S7 lite will be the same price as the  S7 B3. WHY NOT? Only game in town, till someone else comes along and creates some competition.... then and only then will there be lower price models.

bitmaintech can self mine at the high coin prices which are touching 360 usd.

I see them waiting a while before batch  4 and I see them selling a 2 board unit at a price rise per gh . 

if the 4860gh batch 3 was 1620 usd that was 33 cents a gh.

I can see a 3200gh batch 4 sell for 1200 usd which is  37.5 cents a gh

If coins keep rising it would sell.  Sell well.
legendary
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Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Hello

Have a question.

What should I consider when chosing a mining pool?. I have a S7 B2 on its way to my house. It should be delivered on thursday and this is my first miner.

I have been reading about the different methods each pool work (PPS, PPLNS, DGM, SMPPS, etc...) and also we can find several pools on each method. Which method and which pool do you think work better and why? If two given pools work on PPS for example, how is that possible that one of them could have their luck on "-8%" (just saying something), I thought statiscally both of them should be "the same thing" (of course according to their each mining total power)

Do they have any trick I should take care of?

Is there anyway to measure efficiency of each mining pool without having to test each pool for several hours or days?

Thank you

This was a really good thread about just that...this guy did a 12-week pool payout test and posted his results.  It's a good read and it's only 2 pages worth.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040


he basically posted random variation from the norm.
At least this is what I see when I look at the results.

It's a good place for a newbie to start without being overwhelmed with it all.
legendary
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Merit: 4331
Hello

Have a question.

What should I consider when chosing a mining pool?. I have a S7 B2 on its way to my house. It should be delivered on thursday and this is my first miner.

I have been reading about the different methods each pool work (PPS, PPLNS, DGM, SMPPS, etc...) and also we can find several pools on each method. Which method and which pool do you think work better and why? If two given pools work on PPS for example, how is that possible that one of them could have their luck on "-8%" (just saying something), I thought statiscally both of them should be "the same thing" (of course according to their each mining total power)

Do they have any trick I should take care of?

Is there anyway to measure efficiency of each mining pool without having to test each pool for several hours or days?

Thank you

This was a really good thread about just that...this guy did a 12-week pool payout test and posted his results.  It's a good read and it's only 2 pages worth.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040


he basically posted random variation from the norm.
At least this is what I see when I look at the results.
hero member
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Anyone powered his S7 using only 1 PCi-E 6 per board ?
I have powered them with only 1 cable per board for the last 2 days and they were working fine
Just today I read somewhere that it actually needs all 3 cables per board.

That's over 350W DC for 1 cable.  The connectors/pins are only rated for a maxijum of 324W, and those ratings aren't overly conservative given the demanding environments mining puts on them (vibration + high ambient temps).  Plug more cables into them, like now...

Edit: Plus it violates Bitmain's ridiculous warranty terms...

I'm doing 8 total, 2 each to outside boards and 3 to center plus controller. That way I can use 2 dell 750 PSU with 8 cables. Using high quality 16awg cables and breakout boards. No issues. Been monitoring temps of connectors and cables. Avg connect temp is 79F. Miner runs at 55-59c and ambient temp is 69-72F.

That would be 175w per cable on the boards with 2 plugged in. Consumer PSU may not handle this since cables are lower gauge and will heat up more.
The wire gauge on the bitmain 1600 psu's is pretty teenie.
Maybe that is why the "three cable rule" is pushed.
My corsair rm1000 modular cables are pretty beefy. I use two per board with the daisy chain from one of them, filling all connectors.
The board next to the controller socket gets the daisy chain from the second cable.

I'm not sure what the wire gauge number is on the Bitmain power supplies, someone will have to see if there is some printing on the wires and post the AWG size.

BUT, for reference, when I made the cables for the DPS-1200FB power supplies I have, I used 20ga wire.... its what I had laying around that would fit the pins I have.... Calculating the load per wire,  I divided the maximum amperage the power supply could produce across the 6 Molex plugs, the amperage per pin/wire was 5.5 amp.... WELL within the specification for the wire size and insulation type using an NEC wire chart.

YES, insulation type is also a factor. You can have anything from varnish coated wires, plastic insulated, silicone insulated, or even teflon insulated. Some insulation melts at lower temps, so if you have a Molex connector that heating up because of old age or you have been plugging and unplugging a lot and you have cheap ass plastic insulated wires, more likely you will have a meltdown from insulation melting then wires shorting out than if you were running a smaller wire gauge, same amperage, and teflon insulation.

You might think silicone insulated wires will handle the heat... somewhat. Silicone insulation is used when maximum flexability is required, or is in a higher heat environment, or is carrying higher voltage (think 1000V or more). Silicone insulation is not very good when its in direct contact with a high temperature material such as a wire which has a contact that is micro arcing causing the wire to heat up massively.... it will melt with relative ease.



As far as pluging and unplugging, I use the corsair rm1000 1000 watt psu with modular connectors.
I plug the modular cables into the s7 once and LEAVE THEM THERE. Two pcie cables per board with one daisy chain connector per board.
When I need to detach the psu from the s7 I unplug from the psu only.
This way the s7 power connectors stay more pristine.
Again, the gauge on the bitmain 1600 watt psu is quite small so use all connectors on the s7.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
any updates on delivery ? i dont think there will be any "new" models of miners till delivery is up to schedule ? ordered on 25th last mth, nth yet for me.
Towards the end of this week for oct17 and oct21
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Hello

Have a question.

What should I consider when chosing a mining pool?. I have a S7 B2 on its way to my house. It should be delivered on thursday and this is my first miner.

I have been reading about the different methods each pool work (PPS, PPLNS, DGM, SMPPS, etc...) and also we can find several pools on each method. Which method and which pool do you think work better and why? If two given pools work on PPS for example, how is that possible that one of them could have their luck on "-8%" (just saying something), I thought statiscally both of them should be "the same thing" (of course according to their each mining total power)

Do they have any trick I should take care of?

Is there anyway to measure efficiency of each mining pool without having to test each pool for several hours or days?

Thank you

This was a really good thread about just that...this guy did a 12-week pool payout test and posted his results.  It's a good read and it's only 2 pages worth.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
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