ANTMINER U3 Discussion and Support Thread - page 74.

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Quote from: toptek on October 18, 2014, 05:29:25 PM

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 07:06:05 AM

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Setup requirements:

Requires power via PCI-E or via the included AC/DC adapter. You will need to purchase a power cable [connector type to be confirmed] for the AC/DC adapter.
External controller [PC, Pi]
USB cable is included

why is it so hard to not include a power cable for the ac/dc adapter. Even though the original bitmain post doesn't even
mention supplying that either.

most cases its Customs won't allow it to be sent with one, don't know Thu if that's the case here .

why we had to buy our own paste for the upgrade kits s1 to s3 customs had issue with the paste .

With good reason .

That doesn't even sound like a plausible reason. How the hell did the paste get here originally? Someone smuggle it in?
Or maybe it's financial? Customs does some stupid stuff but why would customs give a shit about a cable?
They don't! but whatever excuse they want to give ...

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Quote from: BCwinning on October 18, 2014, 05:20:11 PM

Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 07:06:05 AM

Reserved for Q&A and technical support. [Official from BITMAIN, don't delete]

Setup requirements:

Requires power via PCI-E or via the included AC/DC adapter. You will need to purchase a power cable [connector type to be confirmed] for the AC/DC adapter.
External controller [PC, Pi]
USB cable is included

why is it so hard to not include a power cable for the ac/dc adapter. Even though the original bitmain post doesn't even
mention supplying that either.

most cases its Customs won't allow it to be sent with one, don't know Thu if that's the case here .

why we had to buy our own paste for the upgrade kits s1 to s3 customs had issue with the paste .

With good reason .

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 07:06:05 AM

Reserved for Q&A and technical support. [Official from BITMAIN, don't delete]

Setup requirements:

Requires power via PCI-E or via the included AC/DC adapter. You will need to purchase a power cable [connector type to be confirmed] for the AC/DC adapter.
External controller [PC, Pi]
USB cable is included

why is it so hard to not include a power cable for the ac/dc adapter. Even though the original bitmain post doesn't even
mention supplying that either.

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Quote from: cloh76 on October 18, 2014, 04:37:46 PM

How would one go about setting this up aside from them being connected to a USB Hub? I dont have 60 free outlets laying around and i doubt i could attach 24 of them to a 1200 Watt PSU.

You wouldn't, they're not designed with mass mining in mind.

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Quote from: bobsag3 on October 18, 2014, 02:59:35 PM

We have these for sale, the shipping prices for even 60 are murderous.

To be fair that package is going to weigh ~100kg.

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How would one go about setting this up aside from them being connected to a USB Hub? I dont have 60 free outlets laying around and i doubt i could attach 24 of them to a 1200 Watt PSU.

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God?

Having a heavy hand in writing CGMiner, and being actively involved in the community tends to garner a lot of respect.

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 18, 2014, 09:29:40 AM

Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else.

Simple reason, he wrote the truth.
Not a single mining hardware now available to ROI for the home miners.
Without them the blockchain is somewhat centralised.
This is not a complaint since everyone looks for profit, so the hardware manufacturers too.

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We have these for sale, the shipping prices for even 60 are murderous.

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Quote from: tripppn on October 18, 2014, 12:05:37 PM

Very cool design. Unfortunately I can't afford 60 of them so I'll keep an eye out for group buys of these.

Also keeping a look out for a group buy.
I could order the 60 since I have enough BTC, but I don't need 60 and I'm not able to manage a group buy at the moment.

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Mother of god, a BFL 60GH used to cost thousands of dollars. Less than a year ago.....

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Quote from: Bicknellski on October 18, 2014, 11:58:18 AM

Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 18, 2014, 09:29:40 AM

Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else.

He isn't God. He is just right as Flying Hellfish and klondike_bar say. If you disagree then why not put up a case to rivals his? Unfortunately the numbers don't square and anyone who is looking forward understands this game of small mining is dead for profit motives.

Do you have any evidence to support some other conclusion? If you do then please share that with the community.

Now having said that. Maybe units with other purposes beyond mining or dual purpose and mining might be the way to decentralize mining this bee hive looking unit is a step in that direction.

As a hopeless optimist, not to mention a gadget freak, there are a few SHA altcoin out there that you could mine with these. So far the problem has been that the $/GH/day factor has still been in BTC's favor. However, if BTC does become even more centralized to the massive farms, then could there be a chance that altcoin mining could still be at least marginally profitable to the hobbyist? There has been some effort to make altcoins more relevant (like NU's attempt to build on PPC - even though the jury is still out on how successful that will be). While BTC is the 800 lb gorilla in the cybercoin-for-commerce world, there still might be a place for others (again, the hopeless optimist speaking here Wink

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on October 18, 2014, 11:29:07 AM

Bitmain,

Why does your announcement state that a 16A power brick is needed, but then later you state that an ATX PSU with a single PCI-e connector is needed?

The render you provide certainly appears to show a standard power brick barrel adapter and not a PCI-e connector... or is that strange-looking thing in the center of the bottom supposed to be the PCI-e connector?

Basically what I'm asking: Is the power to be supplied by EITHER a 16A brick OR an ATX PSU? The choice is up to the customer? Or, does the unit require both a brick and an ATX PSU?

Also, in the specs you state DC 12V, 6A... so why the need for a 16A brick? Is that a typo?

Thanks.

I have exactly the same question...

The unit itself requires 5-6A, and is provided with a AC/DC 12V, 16A PSU.

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This might have been a decent deal if it was released 3+ months ago but now it's just an overpriced novelty.

Rockminer has been selling cheaper noob miners for months.

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Very cool design. Unfortunately I can't afford 60 of them so I'll keep an eye out for group buys of these.

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 18, 2014, 09:29:40 AM

Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else.

He isn't God. He is just right as Flying Hellfish and klondike_bar say. If you disagree then why not put up a case to rivals his? Unfortunately the numbers don't square and anyone who is looking forward understands this game of small mining is dead for profit motives.

Do you have any evidence to support some other conclusion? If you do then please share that with the community.

Now having said that. Maybe units with other purposes beyond mining or dual purpose and mining might be the way to decentralize mining this bee hive looking unit is a step in that direction.

This is the right way of thinking about this... but not a rice cooker. Think consumer electronics that require being on all the time. Wallets like the Trezor possibly or maybe storage NAS systems.

Quote from: Gogreen on October 18, 2014, 08:50:31 AM

Look like the latest rice cooker! Cheesy

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 18, 2014, 09:29:40 AM

Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else.

I quoted him in this instance because he is correct and presented the information well.

I don't think he is god, I don't believe in god/s. His reputation can speak for itself and if I thought he was wrong I would have no problems saying so. In this case however he was/is pretty much bang on mate.

I notice you didn't argue with the substance of the post but instead look to misdirect by basically calling me a fan boy.

Don't worry Dogie your meal ticket is still in place, as Conman pointed out there are still enough suckers blinded by greed that they can afford to keep you on contract for a while yet.

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on October 18, 2014, 11:29:07 AM

Bitmain,

Why does your announcement state that a 16A power brick is needed, but then later you state that an ATX PSU with a single PCI-e connector is needed?

The render you provide certainly appears to show a standard power brick barrel adapter and not a PCI-e connector... or is that strange-looking thing in the center of the bottom supposed to be the PCI-e connector?

Basically what I'm asking: Is the power to be supplied by EITHER a 16A brick OR an ATX PSU? The choice is up to the customer? Or, does the unit require both a brick and an ATX PSU?

Also, in the specs you state DC 12V, 6A... so why the need for a 16A brick? Is that a typo?

Thanks.

I have exactly the same question...

The middle white connector is a PCI-E 6 pin, I assume to the right of it is a DC barrell connector.

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Bitmain,

Why does your announcement state that a 16A power brick is needed, but then later you state that an ATX PSU with a single PCI-e connector is needed?

The render you provide certainly appears to show a standard power brick barrel adapter and not a PCI-e connector... or is that strange-looking thing in the center of the bottom supposed to be the PCI-e connector?

Basically what I'm asking: Is the power to be supplied by EITHER a 16A brick OR an ATX PSU? The choice is up to the customer? Or, does the unit require both a brick and an ATX PSU?

Also, in the specs you state DC 12V, 6A... so why the need for a 16A brick? Is that a typo?

Thanks.

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Quote from: dogie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:39 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on October 18, 2014, 09:29:40 AM

Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.

Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else.

fact is that the U3 wont make any profit unless there is a drastic shift in BTC value - which would still ensure better profits for a larger miner anyways.

IMO ck's post is accurate, and it shouldnt be surprising that the bitcoin service will slowly centralize in areas where power is cheap. Even 2 years ago there were guys running $50,000 worth of GPUs in their garages or even rented buildings - those people now run $200,000 farms

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