Any word on amd vega hash rates? - page 48.

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Quote from: l1xx on November 30, 2017, 07:30:42 AM

I am pretty sure that this is the card that is making the trouble here. HBM2 on it is like 12-14C hotter than the core, unlike any other cards I have where the difference is smaller ...

Any idea how to fight it? Its already undervolted, and fans are running quite high. Current room temp is around 18C, so can't really improve much on that front.

Would any additional fans do any good? Like case fans from both sides blowing into it or something?
Any other ideas?

Some GPU's just have shitty thermal paste or don't make contact with the HBM2 memory properly. Some companies will allow you to replace the thermal paste or cooler and keep your warranty but you have to contact them first.

Hellae

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All my tests ended up in 2016/2016 being the best value.
Tried 1 2 3 4 and even 6 threads. Tried combinations of those thread intensities with worksizes of 4 8 and 16. None has beaten dual 2016, but it matters little when after 1 minute you are mining bellow a V56.

But even with the min fan speed at the MAX (4500RPM) the memory quickly goes above 70º (in less than a minute) and the hash quickly drops from 2100 to 1700ish, sometimes to even lower values down to 1450...

The blower is either not as good as the RX counterparts or it's the 1600MHz without underclock that are contributing for the massive temperature increase in a matter of seconds.

All P-States are unlocked via overdriveNtool. Tried the same core/voltages as in the 64 and the result got worse in hash with the same thermal issues.

Bottom line seems to be: If you ordered it to mine, try to cancel/resell it and get a 56 or 64 instead.

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I am pretty sure that this is the card that is making the trouble here. HBM2 on it is like 12-14C hotter than the core, unlike any other cards I have where the difference is smaller ...

Any idea how to fight it? Its already undervolted, and fans are running quite high. Current room temp is around 18C, so can't really improve much on that front.

Would any additional fans do any good? Like case fans from both sides blowing into it or something?
Any other ideas?

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Quote from: Hellae on November 29, 2017, 09:04:53 PM

Can't keep my Frontier at 2100. In a minute it goes right down to 1700/1800 range.

Already tried with max min fan speed. Something is missing me.

For now all I'm doing is setting the memory to 1100, the memory voltage to 905mV and running 2 threads of 2016 intensity.
All the core values are still at default.

What am I missing?

On my FE I run 1650core/1100mem at 1000/905mV. I have to keep a monitor plugged in and turned ON or it drops off, dummy plug doesn’t work for me.

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Quote from: splat1 on November 30, 2017, 01:32:21 AM

Quote from: sicken on November 29, 2017, 11:35:27 PM

Quote from: Hellae on November 29, 2017, 09:04:53 PM

Can't keep my Frontier at 2100. In a minute it goes right down to 1700/1800 range.

Already tried with max min fan speed. Something is missing me.

For now all I'm doing is setting the memory to 1100, the memory voltage to 905mV and running 2 threads of 2016 intensity.
All the core values are still at default.

What am I missing?

Is there a way to run 4 threads on that card vs the 2 we are currently doing due to the increased memory size of 16gb HBM2? I just placed an order for a Frontier Edition Vega and plan to test it myself but if someone else has some insight on this that would be great...

Also interested in this. Thinking of picking up an Fe.

I ordered FE and hoping to benefit from 16GB HBM2 memory, i hope...

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Quote from: sicken on November 29, 2017, 11:35:27 PM

Quote from: Hellae on November 29, 2017, 09:04:53 PM

Can't keep my Frontier at 2100. In a minute it goes right down to 1700/1800 range.

Already tried with max min fan speed. Something is missing me.

For now all I'm doing is setting the memory to 1100, the memory voltage to 905mV and running 2 threads of 2016 intensity.
All the core values are still at default.

What am I missing?

Is there a way to run 4 threads on that card vs the 2 we are currently doing due to the increased memory size of 16gb HBM2? I just placed an order for a Frontier Edition Vega and plan to test it myself but if someone else has some insight on this that would be great...

Also interested in this. Thinking of picking up an Fe.

sicken

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Quote from: Hellae on November 29, 2017, 09:04:53 PM

Can't keep my Frontier at 2100. In a minute it goes right down to 1700/1800 range.

Already tried with max min fan speed. Something is missing me.

For now all I'm doing is setting the memory to 1100, the memory voltage to 905mV and running 2 threads of 2016 intensity.
All the core values are still at default.

What am I missing?

Is there a way to run 4 threads on that card vs the 2 we are currently doing due to the increased memory size of 16gb HBM2? I just placed an order for a Frontier Edition Vega and plan to test it myself but if someone else has some insight on this that would be great...

Hellae

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Can't keep my Frontier at 2100. In a minute it goes right down to 1700/1800 range.

Already tried with max min fan speed. Something is missing me.

For now all I'm doing is setting the memory to 1100, the memory voltage to 905mV and running 2 threads of 2016 intensity.
All the core values are still at default.

What am I missing?

STT

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Quote from: raz0er on November 29, 2017, 07:46:25 AM

I haven't be able to get up to speed with the thread lately.

I am running two XMR rigs, 4 Vega 64 each. Windows Fall Creator's, August 23 blockchain drivers.
Total hashrate is 16060H/s (~2007 per card)
Using hellae's 1100MHz regedit (1407/900, 1100/905 probably)
xmr-stak-amd with 1932/1932 threads on each card
~1525watts from the wall (220v) with Corsair RM1000is

Is there any benefit switching to xmr-stak or cast-xmr?
Can I get any more efficiency out of them?

Thanks in advance!

I get XMR - Total Speed: 1682 H/s or something a bit over 1700. Not got the last part to 2000 yet, I dont find a higher core clock really helps me and I know it raises power usage a bit so I keep it around 1100mhz and memory same speed. I thought for 2000h/s I needed 1200mhz memory speed perhaps

Quote from: l1xx on November 29, 2017, 07:41:02 AM

has anyone encountered gpu compute errors for any of these reasons:

1) Too low memory voltage (like 900-925) on a vega
2) Vega 64 not handling 1100 mem overclock properly?

I am getting lost already, can't really find the sourse of the problem. Even at under 50C, I still get errors - probably on a single card, but cannot determine which one Sad

The memory voltage is just a floor figure to match the top voltage on the left there or so Ive read. I have it at 920 but in theory it might be possible to lower it further.
1100 should be fine, in GPU-Z it will list the SOC clock and it just has to stay below that. Try 1090

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Quote from: Njeroe on November 29, 2017, 03:49:14 PM

Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 03:23:00 PM

Quote from: Njeroe on November 29, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

Quote from: rednoW on November 29, 2017, 12:19:12 PM

Quote from: risinqsun on November 29, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

46.3mhs eth with mem 1148 (stable) oc. 170-180 watt. But can be made 150 watt with more aggressive downclock/downvolt

with the air bios or liquid bios?

Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 02:11:06 PM

Quote from: martyroz on November 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM

Is a HDMI dummy plug absolutely required for mining XMR at 1850+? or is it just for ease of use when using remote desktop?
Is there any other suitable alternative (aside from a monitor)? as shipping seems to be obscene in time-frame.
And does it actually have to be connected to a powered-on monitor?

Also, I'm using this guide to create a start-up script;
http://vega.miningguides.com/p/auto-run-miner-without-hashmonitor.html

Where is says;
Find the section of code shown below and replace the underlined portion with the miner name of your choosing.
start "XMR-STAK Unified" xmr-stak.exe --config config.txt

what would be the appropriate equivalent for Cast XMR miner? (cast_xmr-vega.exe)
I load this miner with 'xxx.bat'

would it simply be;

start xxx.bat?

I was wondering the same thing. I have seen the guides that say the HDMI emulator is needed, but their has been some post where this is not needed. can anyone confirm if we need the HDMI emulator (one per mining computer) or if we do not need it (I am ordering some parts so I would like to know if to include one)

Thanks

I don't use HDMI dummy on my rig, but the monitor connected to the iGPU so it doesn't bother the Vega cards...

The motherboard I ordered has the IGPU as well. I was planning on using this as well and hooking the monitor up to it, getting it configured and then unplugging the monitor and then every day just plug in and check on. Will this work without a hashrate drop or do I need an emulator for the IGPU plug on the motherboard? also I have one USB keyboard I was intending to do the same thing with plug in and out every day. would this affect hashrate as well. should I go buy a dedicated mouse and keyboard for the system?

Thanks

I unplugged my monitor keyboard and mouse from my rig for you and nothing happened, still has the same hashrate ~2020 H/s per card...

Thank You! Njeroe

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Quote from: GodOfStars on November 29, 2017, 02:36:23 PM

Quote from: raz0er on November 29, 2017, 07:46:25 AM

I haven't be able to get up to speed with the thread lately.

I am running two XMR rigs, 4 Vega 64 each. Windows Fall Creator's, August 23 blockchain drivers.
Total hashrate is 16060H/s (~2007 per card)
Using hellae's 1100MHz regedit (1407/900, 1100/905 probably)
xmr-stak-amd with 1932/1932 threads on each card
~1525watts from the wall (220v) with Corsair RM1000is

Is there any benefit switching to xmr-stak or cast-xmr?
Can I get any more efficiency out of them?

Thanks in advance!

Hi there, are you actually saying that you have 4 GPU that make 4000hashes each? I am hashing 16300 with 8 GPU on my rig. How is this possible, how did you do it?

No, he even says that it's only 2K H/s per card, just that he's running two rigs.

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Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 03:23:00 PM

Quote from: Njeroe on November 29, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

Quote from: rednoW on November 29, 2017, 12:19:12 PM

Quote from: risinqsun on November 29, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

46.3mhs eth with mem 1148 (stable) oc. 170-180 watt. But can be made 150 watt with more aggressive downclock/downvolt

with the air bios or liquid bios?

Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 02:11:06 PM

Quote from: martyroz on November 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM

Is a HDMI dummy plug absolutely required for mining XMR at 1850+? or is it just for ease of use when using remote desktop?
Is there any other suitable alternative (aside from a monitor)? as shipping seems to be obscene in time-frame.
And does it actually have to be connected to a powered-on monitor?

Also, I'm using this guide to create a start-up script;
http://vega.miningguides.com/p/auto-run-miner-without-hashmonitor.html

Where is says;
Find the section of code shown below and replace the underlined portion with the miner name of your choosing.
start "XMR-STAK Unified" xmr-stak.exe --config config.txt

what would be the appropriate equivalent for Cast XMR miner? (cast_xmr-vega.exe)
I load this miner with 'xxx.bat'

would it simply be;

start xxx.bat?

I was wondering the same thing. I have seen the guides that say the HDMI emulator is needed, but their has been some post where this is not needed. can anyone confirm if we need the HDMI emulator (one per mining computer) or if we do not need it (I am ordering some parts so I would like to know if to include one)

Thanks

I don't use HDMI dummy on my rig, but the monitor connected to the iGPU so it doesn't bother the Vega cards...

The motherboard I ordered has the IGPU as well. I was planning on using this as well and hooking the monitor up to it, getting it configured and then unplugging the monitor and then every day just plug in and check on. Will this work without a hashrate drop or do I need an emulator for the IGPU plug on the motherboard? also I have one USB keyboard I was intending to do the same thing with plug in and out every day. would this affect hashrate as well. should I go buy a dedicated mouse and keyboard for the system?

Thanks

I unplugged my monitor keyboard and mouse from my rig for you and nothing happened, still has the same hashrate ~2020 H/s per card...

zmhtech

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Quote from: Njeroe on November 29, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

Quote from: rednoW on November 29, 2017, 12:19:12 PM

Quote from: risinqsun on November 29, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

46.3mhs eth with mem 1148 (stable) oc. 170-180 watt. But can be made 150 watt with more aggressive downclock/downvolt

with the air bios or liquid bios?

Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 02:11:06 PM

Quote from: martyroz on November 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM

Is a HDMI dummy plug absolutely required for mining XMR at 1850+? or is it just for ease of use when using remote desktop?
Is there any other suitable alternative (aside from a monitor)? as shipping seems to be obscene in time-frame.
And does it actually have to be connected to a powered-on monitor?

Also, I'm using this guide to create a start-up script;
http://vega.miningguides.com/p/auto-run-miner-without-hashmonitor.html

Where is says;
Find the section of code shown below and replace the underlined portion with the miner name of your choosing.
start "XMR-STAK Unified" xmr-stak.exe --config config.txt

what would be the appropriate equivalent for Cast XMR miner? (cast_xmr-vega.exe)
I load this miner with 'xxx.bat'

would it simply be;

start xxx.bat?

I was wondering the same thing. I have seen the guides that say the HDMI emulator is needed, but their has been some post where this is not needed. can anyone confirm if we need the HDMI emulator (one per mining computer) or if we do not need it (I am ordering some parts so I would like to know if to include one)

Thanks

I don't use HDMI dummy on my rig, but the monitor connected to the iGPU so it doesn't bother the Vega cards...

The motherboard I ordered has the IGPU as well. I was planning on using this as well and hooking the monitor up to it, getting it configured and then unplugging the monitor and then every day just plug in and check on. Will this work without a hashrate drop or do I need an emulator for the IGPU plug on the motherboard? also I have one USB keyboard I was intending to do the same thing with plug in and out every day. would this affect hashrate as well. should I go buy a dedicated mouse and keyboard for the system?

Thanks

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Quote from: raz0er on November 29, 2017, 07:46:25 AM

I haven't be able to get up to speed with the thread lately.

I am running two XMR rigs, 4 Vega 64 each. Windows Fall Creator's, August 23 blockchain drivers.
Total hashrate is 16060H/s (~2007 per card)
Using hellae's 1100MHz regedit (1407/900, 1100/905 probably)
xmr-stak-amd with 1932/1932 threads on each card
~1525watts from the wall (220v) with Corsair RM1000is

Is there any benefit switching to xmr-stak or cast-xmr?
Can I get any more efficiency out of them?

Thanks in advance!

Hi there, are you actually saying that you have 4 GPU that make 4000hashes each? I am hashing 16300 with 8 GPU on my rig. How is this possible, how did you do it?

Njeroe

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Quote from: rednoW on November 29, 2017, 12:19:12 PM

Quote from: risinqsun on November 29, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

46.3mhs eth with mem 1148 (stable) oc. 170-180 watt. But can be made 150 watt with more aggressive downclock/downvolt

with the air bios or liquid bios?

Quote from: zmhtech on November 29, 2017, 02:11:06 PM

Quote from: martyroz on November 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM

Is a HDMI dummy plug absolutely required for mining XMR at 1850+? or is it just for ease of use when using remote desktop?
Is there any other suitable alternative (aside from a monitor)? as shipping seems to be obscene in time-frame.
And does it actually have to be connected to a powered-on monitor?

Also, I'm using this guide to create a start-up script;
http://vega.miningguides.com/p/auto-run-miner-without-hashmonitor.html

Where is says;
Find the section of code shown below and replace the underlined portion with the miner name of your choosing.
start "XMR-STAK Unified" xmr-stak.exe --config config.txt

what would be the appropriate equivalent for Cast XMR miner? (cast_xmr-vega.exe)
I load this miner with 'xxx.bat'

would it simply be;

start xxx.bat?

I was wondering the same thing. I have seen the guides that say the HDMI emulator is needed, but their has been some post where this is not needed. can anyone confirm if we need the HDMI emulator (one per mining computer) or if we do not need it (I am ordering some parts so I would like to know if to include one)

Thanks

I don't use HDMI dummy on my rig, but the monitor connected to the iGPU so it doesn't bother the Vega cards...

zmhtech

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Quote from: martyroz on November 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM

Is a HDMI dummy plug absolutely required for mining XMR at 1850+? or is it just for ease of use when using remote desktop?
Is there any other suitable alternative (aside from a monitor)? as shipping seems to be obscene in time-frame.
And does it actually have to be connected to a powered-on monitor?

Also, I'm using this guide to create a start-up script;
http://vega.miningguides.com/p/auto-run-miner-without-hashmonitor.html

Where is says;
Find the section of code shown below and replace the underlined portion with the miner name of your choosing.
start "XMR-STAK Unified" xmr-stak.exe --config config.txt

what would be the appropriate equivalent for Cast XMR miner? (cast_xmr-vega.exe)
I load this miner with 'xxx.bat'

would it simply be;

start xxx.bat?

I was wondering the same thing. I have seen the guides that say the HDMI emulator is needed, but their has been some post where this is not needed. can anyone confirm if we need the HDMI emulator (one per mining computer) or if we do not need it (I am ordering some parts so I would like to know if to include one)

Thanks

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Quote from: risinqsun on November 29, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

46.3mhs eth with mem 1148 (stable) oc. 170-180 watt. But can be made 150 watt with more aggressive downclock/downvolt

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Quote from: l1xx on November 29, 2017, 10:35:47 AM

Quote from: gldi0001 on November 29, 2017, 07:52:32 AM

Quote from: Melandroscz on November 28, 2017, 01:04:22 PM

Immposible settings come truth

after 10 days tweaking i find this option Wink

https://imgur.com/GE2Zh8f

thank you for great information!
I've done to follow instruction but somehow when I disable/enable Vega56 on device manager 1 of 2 got exclamation mark when it's enabled and isn't detected when mining.

I clean installed Win10 64, AMD Blockchain driver "Only" is installed manually, Set "0" to both EnableElps, EnableCrossFireAutoLink. and followed rest of instruction... Huh

a restart fixes it. this happens before the disable/enable, the card just has not loaded the driver properly at startup, thats the problem.

I've restarted over 10 times but nothing has changed.If it could solve just restart I wouldn't ask to bother this thread.
In case I reinstall Win10 again since my previous post and followed instruction as 2nd time but same...
It wasn't effective for my case...

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i read a few threads saying they only do 43mhs.
170W with 45Mhz

l1xx

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Quote from: gldi0001 on November 29, 2017, 07:52:32 AM

Quote from: Melandroscz on November 28, 2017, 01:04:22 PM

Immposible settings come truth

after 10 days tweaking i find this option Wink

thank you for great information!
I've done to follow instruction but somehow when I disable/enable Vega56 on device manager 1 of 2 got exclamation mark when it's enabled and isn't detected when mining.

I clean installed Win10 64, AMD Blockchain driver "Only" is installed manually, Set "0" to both EnableElps, EnableCrossFireAutoLink. and followed rest of instruction... Huh

a restart fixes it. this happens before the disable/enable, the card just has not loaded the driver properly at startup, thats the problem.

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