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October 08, 2014, 11:50:03 AM

With an already severely compromised immune system, and the huge variation of blood borne diseases, there is nothing much helpful from doing this in this way.
The existence of any antibodies in the bought blood are not going to be helpful in the creation of the infected person's own antibodies.
It is more sympathetic magic than anything curative.

As a vaccine, that is a different matter, but you are giving yourself a disease (or several) that is likely just much better avoided.

There is one paper which shows that in some cases the blood transfusions may actually help to survive:

http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/179/Supplement_1/S18.long

However, the method was tested only with 8 patients: "because of the small number of patients studied and the lack of control subjects, we cannot conclude that the neutralizing antibodies in transfused convalescent blood improves the outcome for EHF patients."
I would speculate that this would very well be the result of "good luck" on the part of the people who received the blood transfusions. It is said that ~50% of people that are infected with ebola will survive the disease. With such a small sample of people it would not be unrealistic to say that all of these 8 people would be part of the "lucky" 50% that survive.

I'm guessing that this study was not done with blood bought off the street.
Buying and transfusing blood from the "black market" (without even a SR-like rating system)?
That is desperation.

They are now testing blood transfusion with an NBC cameraman: "Ebola survivor Kent Brantly has donated blood to a fellow patient for the second time. This time, Brantly, a physician, donated blood to an NBC cameraman who also contracted the virus while working in Liberia.

Although there's no proven therapy or vaccine for Ebola, doctors hope that blood transfusions from survivors will provide current patients with antibodies that will help their immune systems fight off the virus."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/camerman-ebola-transfusion/16906983/
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October 08, 2014, 09:12:28 AM
This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.
Sure would ease up that global warming though.
Too many people.
Nature culls the heard

Millions of people will die, a huge swath cut through the nations of the world, a giant percentage of humanity laid to waste.
Yet, the real question still remains...
How will this affect the value of my bitcoins?

About 150K people die every day on an average day.
To get to giant percentage of humanity laid to waste, this would need to spread to 10's of millions.

When/If it becomes weaponized, this may occur.  Be on the lookout, especially as it becomes increasingly easy to obtain.
It would be nice is most of us here (BCT) make it through this to the aftermath.  Be aware, be prepared.  Stay healthy.
Try not to spend too much time in hospitals if you can avoid it.

Top 20 cities by population:

1.  Tokyo, Japan (37,126,000)
2.   Jakarta, Indonesia (26,063,000)
3.   Seoul, South Korea (22,547,000)
4.   Delhi, India (22,242,000)
5.   Shanghai, China (20,860,000)
6.   Manila, Philippines (20,767,000)
7.   Karachi, Pakistan (20,711,000)
8.   New York, USA (20,464,000)
9.   Sao Paulo, Brazil (20,186,000)
10.   Mexico City, Mexico (19,463,000)
11.   Cairo, Egypt (17,816,000)
12.   Beijing, China (17,311,000)
13.   Osaka, Japan (17,011,000)
14.   Mumbai (Bombay), India (16,910,000)
15.   Guangzhou, China (16,827,000)
16.   Moscow, Russia (15,512,000)
17.   Los Angeles, USA (14,900,000)
18.   Calcutta, India (14,374,000)
19.   Dhaka, Bangladesh (14,000,000)
20.   Buenos Aires, Argentina (13,639,000)
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October 08, 2014, 08:28:46 AM
The situation goes worse and worse in Sierra Leone: "Burial teams in Sierra Leone reportedly went on strike over lack of hazard pay this week, leaving the bodies of victims of the Ebola outbreak in the country's streets."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/08/sierra-leone-burial-crews-reportedly-on-strike-leaving-ebola-victims-in-street/

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October 08, 2014, 05:46:04 AM
This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained.

This is how a spanish hospital is isolating an ebola-infected nurse



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/tuesday-humor-spains-ebola-containment-protocols

Obviously not that serious then. I'm thinking I'll be fine as long as I'm not taking vaccines.
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October 08, 2014, 05:37:08 AM
This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.
Sure would ease up that global warming though.
Too many people.
Nature culls the heard

Millions of people will die, a huge swath cut through the nations of the world, a giant percentage of humanity laid to waste.
Yet, the real question still remains...
How will this affect the value of my bitcoins?
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October 07, 2014, 11:20:30 PM

Actually his warning was quite less emotional: "Ms Jakab said European health workers were most at risk of becoming infected, but added that "the most important thing in our view is that Europe is still at low risk and that the western part of the European region particularly is the best prepared in the world to respond to viral haemorrhagic fevers including Ebola."
Also the Spanish nurse should not have contracted the deadly disease if appropriate containment and control measures had been taken. Media in Spain "reported that staff at the Madrid hospital where the nurse became infected had claimed their protective suits did not meet health and safety requirements".
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October 07, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
On November 24, 2007, the Uganda Ministry of Health confirmed an outbreak of Ebola in the Bundibugyo District. After confirmation of samples tested by the United States National Reference Laboratories and the CDC, the World Health Organization confirmed the presence of the new species. On 20 February 2008, the Uganda Ministry officially announced the end of the epidemic in Bundibugyo, with the last infected person discharged on 8 January 2008.An epidemiological study conducted by WHO and Uganda Ministry of Health scientists determined there were 116 confirmed and probable cases the new Ebola species, and that the outbreak had a mortality rate of 34% (39 deaths)
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October 07, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
Here we go. Is this up in infowars already?

Why do you ask?

I wonder if something can happen these days, just happen without people coming up with alternative theories.

Are you not open to free thinking?
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October 07, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
Here we go. Is this up in infowars already?
I wonder if something can happen these days, just happen without people coming up with alternative theories.
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October 07, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
Its confirmed in spain, a potential second case too and stocks are going down when it comes to traveling agencies.
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October 07, 2014, 10:44:02 AM
But due to incompetence from the authorities, they were allowed to travel.

The authorities have been deliberately flying Ebola carriers around the world for some time now. This isn't incompetence, it's strategy.

"Air traffic is the driver"



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/spain-warns-something-went-wrong-suspected-ebola-cases-rise-madrid
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October 06, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
Not mine words. But yep, without certificate they can't sell it even if they wanted to. Certification could take up to few months. Before beginning of preclinical trials it was expected that commercial supplies will be started in January... Now preclinical tests on humans are passed, so will see. At least now we sure that we'll get a vaccine even in case of failure of all other ongoing developments.
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October 06, 2014, 10:51:06 AM
Someone died in Texas right?  Shocked Shocked
No.
Still in critical condition as of now.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/06/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0HT0MZ20141006


I picked up the remaining P100 breathing filters at my local stores here in Los Angeles.  There weren't a lot left.
After I put together a the kits for my household, I may have some left over.

It might be wise to check your local stores for these before things get weird, and if they never do, save them for the next time you paint or whatever.
As for eye coverings, those simple cheap pool masks because they are easy to get and are water tight.  Most of the goggles you see for protective wear aren't water tight, aren't air tight and are for splash protection.


I'd not be giving those up for dirty fiat money.  That cotton cloth is going to soak up the deadly disease like nothing else.
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October 06, 2014, 07:06:40 AM
Someone died in Texas right?  Shocked Shocked
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October 05, 2014, 07:33:12 PM
Can't believe that the US authorities allowed an infected person to travel from Liberia to Texas. Now it is time to face the music.  Angry
He was not showing symptoms until after he was in the US for some time. He was screened prior to leaving Liberia.

The incubation period is ~3 weeks so someone can be infected but show no signs of being as such for as long
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October 04, 2014, 04:42:30 PM

nothing says "safety precautions" like rolled-up sleeves on a HazMat suit...



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-03/why-americas-not-ready-ebola-outbreak-1-photo
This is one example of why healthcare workers are catching ebola. They are not properly following procedures that are designed to keep them safe. Many people feel these procedures are unnecessary and do things like this and end up catching the illness
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