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sr. member
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August 25, 2014, 03:16:18 AM
why there no medicine can cure that ebola
hopefully there are medicine can cure it
maybe some scientist can find medicine of this desease
hopefully ...
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August 24, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
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Subject: Big picture on ebola, pandemics and the resulting Hajnal line + socialism + propaganda
From:    AnonyMint
To:      "Armstrong Economics"
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The quality of journalism has declined. The following linked article entirely misses the hallmark of pandemics and plagues in that although HIV may be as virulent and Influenza as contagious, neither are simultaneously highly virulent and highly contagious.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/17/viruses-scarier-than-ebola_n_5683223.html

Luckily so far ebola's mode of transmission is apparently not yet airborne (or not enough) to be a threat to western civilization.

But mutation is possible and there are numerous strains of hemorrhagic fevers, as well other competing pathogens. The Black Death plagues that killed most of Europe's population and spread by rodents seem less likely to impact the world now as agriculture is no longer primarily manual labor. Nature culled the overpopulation in Europe in order to raise the wages and productivity of mankind. Thus perhaps the causative history for why Europe favors birth control, late marriage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line), and population control propaganda.

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2013/11/european-asian-divergence-predates.html

http://blog.jim.com/economics/the-future-belongs-to-those-that-show-up/

Result of "Legal Equality for Women":


http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-false-life-plan/  <--- agree only that cathedral education should stop & let diversity thus fitness bloom
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3000 (about hypergamy and the PUA game)
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4934 (the false life plan is a dead end)
http://blog.jim.com/economics/the-cure-for-iq-shredders/  <--- top-down control is never the solution

But it also cheapened life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague#Second_outbreak

Quote from: wikipedia
Black Death, the infamous pandemic of bubonic plague, hit in 1347, killing a third of the human population. It is believed that society subsequently became more violent as the mass mortality rate cheapened life and thus increased warfare, crime, popular revolt, waves of flagellants, and persecution

There is a new mosquito spread virus that appears to also spread as an STD.

Some sort of mutation along those lines is what will drive the next pandemic on cycle for 2019.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/31/ebola-virus-the-next-plague-due-2019/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/07/plague-cycle/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/12/06/war-plagues-earthquakes/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/11/crimea-was-the-origin-of-the-black-death-that-killed-50-of-europe/


Another culling of the population is unfortunately perhaps necessary because the vast majority of people are not ready to be productive in the Knowledge Age as the Industrial Age is dying (China swallowed that zero profit oversupply of industrial capacity), otherwise we will end up with a Dark Age of circling the toilet bowl socialism.

Economic Devastation and the Coming Knowledge Age:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6065144
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August 24, 2014, 03:44:57 PM
"Clinicians working in Liberia have informed WHO that 2 doctors and 1 nurse have now received the experimental Ebola therapy, ZMapp.
The nurse and one of the doctors show a marked improvement. The condition of the second doctor is serious but has improved somewhat.
According to the manufacturer, the very limited supplies of this experimental medicine are now exhausted."


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/21-august-2014/en/
I think the important point is the fact that the medicine/antidote works. With it working it is possible to make more of this medicine in order to treat more people who have contracted this disease. As it stands now, anyone who contracts this disease is almost certain to die from it so any medical advancement is good news.

Unfortunately nobody can yet say does it work or not (and what possible harmful side effects it has). It has now tested only with five humans. And about 50 % of patiens will survive anyway (without ZMapp).
I don't think the survival rate is that high, I though it was almost certain to kill a victim (I may be wrong on this). You are right to say it has been tested/used on very few people, but preliminary signs are that it at least somewhat works. The side effects would likely be ignored if the death rate of people that contract ebola are as high as I believe them to be.
legendary
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August 24, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
Research team says migrating fruit bats responsible for outbreak:

"The largest-ever outbreak of Ebola was triggered by a toddler's chance contact with a single infected bat, a team of international researchers will reveal, after a major investigation of the origins of the deadly disease now ravaging Guinea, Liberia, Ivory Coast and Nigeria."

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/23/ebola-outbreak-blamed-on-fruit-bats-africa

Nature strikes back against deforestation.  Angry

Ebola is spread through contact with the Little collared fruit bat or the Franquet's epauletted fruit bat. Earlier, both these bats used to reside in remote caverns, deep inside the rainforest. But as the population increased, people began penetrating in to the forest more and more, resulting in the complete destruction of the bats' habitat. The first Ebola infection in this outbreak occurred in a village, which is very close to recently deforested land.
sr. member
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August 24, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
Research team says migrating fruit bats responsible for outbreak:

"The largest-ever outbreak of Ebola was triggered by a toddler's chance contact with a single infected bat, a team of international researchers will reveal, after a major investigation of the origins of the deadly disease now ravaging Guinea, Liberia, Ivory Coast and Nigeria."

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/23/ebola-outbreak-blamed-on-fruit-bats-africa
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 05:16:18 PM
Well it looks like the Ebola virus is still in its spreading stage
Impacting different countries around the world.

'Underestimated' Ebola outbreak spreads

Ebola continues to spread in West Africa as Sierra Leone voted to pass a new amendment imposing jail time for anyone caught hiding an Ebola patient.

With 142 new cases recorded, the total number is now 2,615 with 1,427 deaths, the World Health Organization said Friday. The group added that the magnitude of the Ebola outbreak has been "underestimated."

Many families hide infected loved ones in their homes," the organization wrote in an assessment. "Others deny that a patient has Ebola and believe that care in an isolation ward — viewed as an incubator of the disease — will lead to infection and certain death. Most fear the stigma and social rejection that come to patients and families when a diagnosis of Ebola is confirmed."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/23/ebola-spreads-in-nigeria-liberia-has-1000-cases/14489251/
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
WHO just published the new numbers:

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_22_ebola/en/

Between 19 and 20 August 2014, a total of 142 new cases (again most of them in Liberia).

So it looks like it is spreading at slightly slower speed now,  althought the numbers are so small and inaccurate that no reliable conclusion can be drawn.

Unfortunately, I don't think that there has been any slow down. A large slum in Monrovia, with a population of 50,000+ is under quarantine. No one knows how many people are dying of Ebola there, as there is no communication. So I have to say that the latest data release from the World Health Organization is incomplete, at least as far as Liberia is concerned.
sr. member
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August 23, 2014, 05:06:07 AM
"Clinicians working in Liberia have informed WHO that 2 doctors and 1 nurse have now received the experimental Ebola therapy, ZMapp.
The nurse and one of the doctors show a marked improvement. The condition of the second doctor is serious but has improved somewhat.
According to the manufacturer, the very limited supplies of this experimental medicine are now exhausted."


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/21-august-2014/en/
I think the important point is the fact that the medicine/antidote works. With it working it is possible to make more of this medicine in order to treat more people who have contracted this disease. As it stands now, anyone who contracts this disease is almost certain to die from it so any medical advancement is good news.

Unfortunately nobody can yet say does it work or not (and what possible harmful side effects it has). It has now tested only with five humans. And about 50 % of patiens will survive anyway (without ZMapp).
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August 23, 2014, 03:57:05 AM
"Clinicians working in Liberia have informed WHO that 2 doctors and 1 nurse have now received the experimental Ebola therapy, ZMapp.
The nurse and one of the doctors show a marked improvement. The condition of the second doctor is serious but has improved somewhat.
According to the manufacturer, the very limited supplies of this experimental medicine are now exhausted."


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/21-august-2014/en/
I think the important point is the fact that the medicine/antidote works. With it working it is possible to make more of this medicine in order to treat more people who have contracted this disease. As it stands now, anyone who contracts this disease is almost certain to die from it so any medical advancement is good news.
sr. member
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August 23, 2014, 12:28:51 AM
In the past one or two weeks, there has been a huge increase in the detection of new cases:

WHO update for 14-16 August 2014 (72 hours):

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_19_ebola/en/

113 new cases.

WHO update for 17-18 August 2014 (72 hours):

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_20_ebola/en/

221 new cases.  Angry

Huge increase in new cases from Liberia.

WHO just published the new numbers:

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_22_ebola/en/

Between 19 and 20 August 2014, a total of 142 new cases (again most of them in Liberia).

So it looks like it is spreading at slightly slower speed now,  althought the numbers are so small and inaccurate that no reliable conclusion can be drawn.
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August 22, 2014, 08:58:13 AM
"Clinicians working in Liberia have informed WHO that 2 doctors and 1 nurse have now received the experimental Ebola therapy, ZMapp.
The nurse and one of the doctors show a marked improvement. The condition of the second doctor is serious but has improved somewhat.
According to the manufacturer, the very limited supplies of this experimental medicine are now exhausted."


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/21-august-2014/en/
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 07:13:38 PM
On the bright side of the Ebola Front
Atlanta Georgia

The ebola patients have been released and pose no further risk to the public
Releasing American Ebola patients poses no risk to public: hospital

 ATLANTA -- Calling it a "miraculous day," an American doctor infected with Ebola left his isolation unit and warmly hugged his doctors and nurses on Thursday, showing the world that he poses no public health threat one month after getting sick with the virus.

Dr. Kent Brantly and his fellow medical missionary, Nancy Writebol, who was quietly discharged two days earlier, are still weak but should recover completely, and no one need fear being in contact with them, said Dr. Bruce Ribner, who runs the infectious disease unit at Emory University Hospital.

Brantly's reappearance was festive and celebratory, a stark contrast to his arrival in an ambulance under police escort three weeks earlier, when he shuffled into the hospital wearing a bulky white hazardous materials suit.

"I am thrilled to be alive, to be well, and to be reunited with my family," Brantly said, choking up as he read a written statement. Then he and his wife turned and hugged a parade of doctors and nurses, hugging or shaking hands with each one. For some, it was their first direct contact without protective gear.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/releasing-american-ebola-patients-poses-no-risk-to-public-hospital-1.1969654#ixzz3B4Ttxo3I

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August 21, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Also there are currently cases where doctors refuse to go to places where an outbreak occurred to treat patients due to the high risk of catching the fever. Only emergency response teams are out there, hopefully a cure is found soon. This is kinda like rise of the planet of the apes ending, alz 112 spreading over plane network.
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 08:48:16 AM
It's getting more like 28 days. We should seriously considering moving forward with the seasteading noah's ark project.

...that 50000 quarantined people in Monrovia still have some food and didn't started panicking yet. When they get low on food and/or became really scared that will be something like 28 days.
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
In the past one or two weeks, there has been a huge increase in the detection of new cases:

WHO update for 14-16 August 2014 (72 hours):

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_19_ebola/en/

113 new cases.

WHO update for 17-18 August 2014 (72 hours):

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2014_08_20_ebola/en/

221 new cases.  Angry

Huge increase in new cases from Liberia.
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 04:21:50 AM
It's getting more like 28 days. We should seriously considering moving forward with the seasteading noah's ark project.

Collect all the people who has Ebole in one place.. Give them food and hope that those who can, will survive.. Those who dont.. Yea..
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August 21, 2014, 04:20:17 AM
It's getting more like 28 days. We should seriously considering moving forward with the seasteading noah's ark project.
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 04:16:29 AM
Might be the end of the world.. If it goes airborn then we are screwed..

We need a cure and we need it fast.. Bad thing is just that it aint that easy ;(
legendary
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August 21, 2014, 04:05:17 AM
Ebola is about 100 times less mutable than influenza.
This has implications for bioterrorism (if you have an antivirus, its not so likely to mutate around it).
The weaponization of ebola remains my concern in this.  I'm more concerned about stupid humans. 
The sickness is a dire tragedy, but even so, I am not one to seek governmental assistance for its resolution and prefer a less organized response.
Nature tends to balance itself out, but unbalanced humans are so very dangerous, with immense potential for deleterious effect.

"Those from whom seek help, you also empower." - NewLiberty

Weaponization has happened long time ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopreparat#Biopreparat_pathogens
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August 20, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
More ebola news for today

It looks like they are locking down a slum which has many cases of ebola so no one can get in or out

Barbed wire used to trap 50,000 people in Ebola-stricken slum

Riot police and soldiers acting on their president's orders used scrap wood and barbed wire to seal off 50,000 people inside their Liberian slum Wednesday, trying to contain the Ebola outbreak that has killed 1,350 people and counting across West Africa.

Hundreds of slum residents clashed with the gunmen, furious at being blamed and isolated by a government that has failed to quickly collect dead bodies from the streets. One 15-year-old boy was injured trying to cross the barbed wire as security forces fired into the air to disperse the crowd.

The World Health Organization said the death toll is rising most quickly in Liberia, which now accounts for at least 576 of the fatalities. At least 2,473 people have been sickened across West Africa, which is now more than the caseloads of all the previous two-dozen Ebola outbreaks combined.

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/barbed-wire-used-trap-50-000-people-in-ebola-stricken-slum-6061297
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