Topic: Application to be a Merit source for Bangladesh Thread (Read 1801 times)

Really! Where is it coming from? I don't believe it's from BitcoinDream. He has the courage to tell everything publicly. But for your info, he has sent 1 merit in the last 120 days. Are you trying to fame/defame BitcoinDream?
Also, if you claim something, you must have enough facts/stats with solid proof. Simply saying so wouldn't bring any good result.
Why are you complaining here? If you want to get merit, make sure you post with minimum quality.

[Citation needed]

Wrong. Only Merit sources aren't allowed to sell Merit, Admin never said buying Merit is illegal.

You make a lot of accusations. Have you considered spamming bounties isn't contributing anything to the forum?

I must be rich!

Lol.

What is this? The Like and Upvote generation who needs instant approval?

Please share who they are, Merit isn't meant for everyone, it's for good posts. And most users don't make good posts.

Now many people are buying merit.  Which is absolutely illegal.  In fact, people have become such that they do not want to give merit to any important post or qualifying post.  Because they are selling merit.  And it is reducing the will power and enthusiasm of the common members.  If you don't get rewarded for doing something good, you won't want to do it again later.  Think what good is profit if it is not worth it.  But there are some senior good hearted people who give merit to everyone.  There are some honest people like BitCoinDream,cryptobrainboss and more.  However let us honor the honorable and refrain from dishonesty.  thank you

Yeah he is not active much himself as you see it's been 23 days since he was last active on the forum and have not send any merit in past 120 days also while receiving only 2 merits so I think he would not be appointed as merit source by @theymos as there are some additional application also being pending along with him for different boards.

His last post on 22^ndApril also tells that Bangladeshi users is seeing downfall in number over the self-moderated thread so he might be getting acquainted with some other works.


Yeah this is the reason why many merit sources are unable to give out merits in local board as they don't understand the native language and can't evaluate the post with this barrier and need for local merit source is present who can help them to rank up with good post.If you think you are good for it you can also apply in Meta with your application but don't know if @theymos plans to add more merit sources at this time or not.

Yeah the merits should be given to deserving members only who has made up some quality posts and you see there are members who give out the full limit of 50 merits at single post only because they find it useful but giving out it to some non-quality shit posters is wrong.

Nice observation and I observed same. But I think there is no problem with that, I said this because I have read where theymos said something about this. I will not quote him because I may not provide exactly his lines but he is of the opinion that it is better to dump 50merits on one quality post than to split the merits to non quality posts for the purpose of fairness or circulation of merits.
Therefore, it could be possible that Review Master made majority of quality posts in the board as merit is supposed to be giving based on post quality not on individuals .

It's good to hear that your local boards are so active and  there are many user who still posted it there. And also I think that it's a good choice to have a merit source in order to spread more merits to those quality posters like you, OP and mane other member of your local. But I don't think so if theymos will accept some merit source applications for now. Aside for little mouse, why not you will try to apply for merit source buddy. For sure you have a chance if theymos will accept application.

It's been half a year since this application has been pending. I don't think this application will be approved since BitcoinDream Himself is not active enough. Also, He left a note for theymos:

You may ask then why I am bumping this thread?
I was going to report some unmerited good posts from my local thread because I believe those posts deserve more merits. But, I realized that merit sources could not read our local posts, so it would be hard to judge posts' quality. I understand if they cannot read, how will they evaluate the posts? Even though LoyceV was looking for some good posts, he could not evaluate them because he could not read them.


In my opinion, In Bangladesh Thread, the Most recognized and active member is @Little Mouse. I would like to request him to apply for being a merit source so that we can get a merit source who can read and evaluate the posts accurately.

That would be appreciated if at least merit sources visit our thread.


Try to ignore that topic about Bitcoindream. he already left a note for theymos

I don't think theymos is going to make someone a merit source who is inactive for the last ~57 days, haven’t visited the forum for this long time and expecting to have him as merit source would be fool in my opinion.
And he has last shared merit on August 11 (not sure if he has any smerit but he must have a few if I'm not wrong. So, don't expect to get a merit source anytime soon.

Looks like that, but hoping to have a merit source for our local section as my smerit will be finished soon. And i won't be able to appreciate potential users from our local section as many users are being active nowadays. Just hoping for the best for our local community.

BUMP, All the way up.

We were expecting a dedicated local board. An application has been pending for a while. We Bangladeshis are still limited to one thread. We have no local board. Some countries do not have local boards. There is only one reason. High-rank members are not active in this thread. The thread creator created it as self-moderated, and he himself is not active. As a result, even though there is a low-quality post (One Line Post), there is no one to watch. There are only 2-3 active members, of which Little_Mouse & Review Master brothers are the most active in this thread. The local board application has been pending for a while now but is not being approved. Just because most of the high-ranked members don't contribute there. Here are a few reasons,

If you visit the Local board often, You will see a lot of Questions raised by newbies. They ask a lot of things about bitcoin but the reality is most of the member doesn't reply to them just because they are newbies. This is true that when you will give a lot of effort to writing a good post and only newbies read that, You won't get merited. I think this is the only reason why newbies don't get their questions answer. If your board has few High-rank members, Then the case is a bit different. If you write a good post on the local board, Your Other good ranked local board mate will appreciate your post. But, If there are only a few people. Your post won't be appreciated. This is the reason why people don't contribute to their local board. I think Our Merit source Members should visit Local boards more Often and take a look.


Look like we are not going to get a Merit source in near future.  
Look like a bunch of Merit sources are already engaged on this thread. I am seeking attention from Our Respectable Merit sources @LoyceV, @The Pharmacist, @suchmoon, @Royce777. I am here to share a few stats

Number of Post Per Local Board


Merit Per Post Ratio

I wouldn’t mind to invite him to Bora Bora along with GazetaBitcoin (he knows where Bora Bora is, I don’t know 😂) to have a beer but I doubt he would be able to join.
Cheers 🥂 BitcoinDream. I'm here to learn, if possible help people to learn. I really hope everyone should have that goal otherwise, we will not see someone talking about bitcoin as a currency or store of value, it will be the currency of darkweb to them.

In your first quote, you made it sound like you expect Merit in return. Your second quote corrects this. Let's assume it's a transation or intonation thing that wasn't meant like this. I think you're overthinking it Don't worry about it, if theymos wants you to be a Merit source, he'll make it happen.

Guys, get a beer together You clearly both want the Bangladesh thread to succeed. Work together instead of against each other, don't start another useless forum feud

Wow! You are amazing!
I'm quoting some of my posts from this thread regarding your merit source application. Hope it will make sense if anyone have that sense to understand the pretty easy language.



This is what I have said before the discussion turn into a chaos and guess what, we were on the point that you are quite inactive and you bring a lot of personal attack and now you are saying I have started the chaos? Sorry, brother. You need to grow up your mind as well along with the knowledge of merit system. No, you don’t know how it works. Otherwise, you would never bring the favoring back meriting discussion here.
And please, don't act like you are a moderator of the forum. You have created a self moderated thread. You are good to do whatever you want with that. But please, don't say that contribution. I have joined the forum in 2018. After 2 days, it will be my 3 year journey here. If you even count the post in that thread from 2019, I believe I will still be superior from you by post counts. I'm not saying I have contributed a lot. What if there were someone who wrote some great article in that thread in Bengali? Certainly I/any newbie would learn more about Bitcoin, cryptocurrency in general. But sadly, we didn’t have you as that guy, never you were that guy.
Thank you for your good sense of humor. Everyone can see who have bring the real chaos here as all the posts are here.

That wasn't an accusation; it was just a statement of fact and was backed up with data.  I wouldn't take that personally.  If you're active in the Bangladesh section, you're active there; if you're not, you're not.  You don't have a responsibility to make posts there, especially with your English being as good as it is.

I don't have the patience to re-read everything in this thread, but I don't recall anyone accusing you of being the root cause of the low number of merits being circulated in your local board.  You're not even a merit source, so there's no way you could be responsible for that.  Surely other members in the Bangladesh board have sMerits to hand out, and they share the same "responsibility" to give them out rather than hoard them.  I put quotations there because there really isn't a responsibility on anyone's part unless they're a merit source, but there isn't one (yet) in your local board.

Also, nobody should be giving you merits in order to replenish your supply of sMerits--for a number of reasons.  For one, people can merit good posts in the Bangladesh section themselves without involving you.  For another, you're not a "community-made" merit source who depends on his sMerit supply coming from other members instead of a real merit source who'd get them from Theymos.  What you wrote is just a bizarre statement IMO, and I doubt it's a misunderstanding due to language.

Edit:

Agree with this 100%.  I'm not sure if the Bangladesh board needs a dedicated merit source given its level of activity, but between the both of these two members, I'm pretty sure they could act as a collective source of merits for members who do post there.

WoW! Congratulations @Little Mouse for successfully creating chaos & confusion regarding my Merit Source Application.



I am well aware of the fact that Merit should go to deserving posts with expectation of no return. It is a Reward System and NOT a Medium of Exchange. But, the problem here is, because I am the thread creator, I am being dragged into the scene and held responsible for dearth of Merit at Bangladesh thread.

I am being accused of not being active, as if, it is my duty to actively post across the board and earn merit to give it to Bangladesh thread. As per my understanding, my posting regularity should not be a matter of consideration here. As long as I had sMerit earned from my usual activity, I regularly gave it to the deserving posts in Bangladesh thread and when I was low on it, I reported here. So, to respond to the allegation quoted above, I made the following statement...

This in no way means that I expect Merit back, when I am giving it away. But, if someone accuses me for dearth of Merit at Bangladesh thread, then he/she is also responsible for the supply of Merit to me.

Moreover, the time frame of posts in Bangladesh thread should actually be counted from 2019. Before that the thread was a shit fest of account farmers. Important posts got regularly buried under shit posts. After introduction of Merit system to uplift Forum Rank, these spam attack somewhat came down. Then cleaning up the garbage became feasible, which led to the removal of 1413 posts by 192 users so far including some recent ones. One may get a view of how things were in earlier days from the initial responses in my Local Board request for Bangladesh.



@LoyceV, @The Pharmacist, @Upgrade00 I tried to put forward my rationale above. Please check it and share your opinion.



Note to theymos: As it appears that at least 3 trusted members of the community doubts my understanding of Merit system, I would request you NOT to consider my Merit Source Application till they are sanguine about my understanding.

Source or not, you should no give merits in the expectation that the person would return the favour. No one expects merits from anyone in particular, you just merit what you find worthy of merits.
I support that this behavior is unfit for a forum user, much less for a merit source.

Am I understanding you correctly that you expect people to "pay back" the merit you sent to them in the Bangladesh local board?  If that's the case, there's no way in hell you should be a merit source.  In fact, that's akin to wanting a kickback--and that's shady behavior in itself, regardless of whether you're a source or not.

Members in your local section should be circulating their merits, yes, but that doesn't mean they should be favoring any members who sent them merits. 

From looking at the data Rikafip presented, it would appear that the Bangladesh section isn't very active at all and probably doesn't need a dedicated merit source (unless it was a member with a relatively low allocation of sMerits).  I'm sure some of the members cross post in the English section and earn merits there, which can then be used to reward members in the Bangladesh board.  That's what's probably going to have to happen, as I doubt Theymos is going to tap anyone as a merit source specifically for that section--unless it was a member like Little Mouse, who'd make a good source in general IMO.

I was asked to respond here.

I've never seen a "Merit source status" being transfered at a user's request. Any somewhat established member can apply to be a Merit source.

I'd say you shouldn't even check what they do with their sMerit. As long as you Merit posts that deserve it, you're doing good.

I made a thread for this: [parody] Merit Backstabbers: who stabbed who in the back the most?. Note the word "parody": it shouldn't matter! I've Merited at least 1600 users who never Merited me. That's okay
You've sent 4 Merit to Little Mouse and didn't get anything in return. Don't worry about it, Merit is for good posts and it shouldn't matter who wrote it.

This doesn't prove or disprove anything without reading the posts (which I can't). But given how long you've been around, chances are you made those posts before the Merit system even existed.
Feel free to posts some of your posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source, but the language makes it difficult for most Merit sources.

I'll collect the data. Update: see this post (and next page).

I'll see how far I get, this sounds like a lot of work.
Sorry, I didn't keep my script for this, and don't want to recreate what I did last time.

You really, I mean really need to grow up. I mean grow up by knowledge about how merit system works. It's not like favoring anyone, it's not like returning the favor. It’s for deserving post. Why would I throw away my smerit to a post which isn’t of high quality from my point of view?