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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:19:52 PM

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely. I might even give it to you before that, too. Cause I'm just a nice guy like that.

20th?
of this month?

even kano and yochdog haven't been flown in yet.

lol.

i guess people will be shipped out empty boxes with fans and spacers.
asic devices later on, 3-4 months later.

BFL will no doubt send a bullet train to gather them up.

Oops.

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

Quote from: elux on January 13, 2013, 12:56:17 PM

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely.

Great.

LMAO!

Inaba doesnt have much of a choice does he?

As soon as Avalon pictures crop up of the devices in actual customers hands, BFL will start to panic as people berate them for answers. Then go right to checkout. The cruelest thing will be when Avalon opens their next batch. I suspect with bASIC (unfortunately) gone and BFL delaying with another "ball of smoke" the banter will be coming from BFL customers and not from Inaba.

I am pretty sure he will be as quiet as a mouse...and sketchy on solid details.

Wasn't he dead sure of October?
What about November (2 times)?
What about December?
Then Mid January?
What date on the 14th? I never said that nor implied it!? --Inaba paraphrased

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What did I just read? Shocked

Quote from: Inaba on January 13, 2013, 12:09:47 PM

Seems to me, if you had a working test product, you'd have shown it by now, but maybe not. Seems silly, though... if you wanted to be the first, you would show your working prototype, that would qualify you as first at this point. What possible reason could you have for not showing a working unit 6 days before you are scheduled to ship?

Quote from: Inaba on January 13, 2013, 12:41:35 PM

I don't care. You are here, in the BFL thread trolling and you won't even demo a working product 5 days before you are shipping. Seems like a crazy way go about things, but whatever man.

Like I said, if you're delayed, your project is dead and I believe you know this. I hope you aren't rushing things just to be first and shipping a brick in a box that fails to perform or breaks in a month.

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

Jesus quoted words just put Inaba in his place.

Moving beyond that, Inaba isn't even following his own critical views.

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He hasn't shown any proof of concept, he also isn't displaying working prototypes either. What he does have on hand are boxes of parts. What a great accomplishment?

Then he has the cojones to talk to a competitor about a delay "killing them" right before he announces like the 3rd or 4th delay in a row.

Christs words apply wonderfully in this situation.

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Quote from: Micon on January 13, 2013, 02:53:38 PM

Quote from: smoothie on January 13, 2013, 01:21:08 PM

Quote from: smoothie on January 13, 2013, 01:21:08 PM

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

I do love how he's taken to trolling BFL though. I wonder what that portends for their 19th shipping date with nothing to show but some paperwork.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

So what's the hard date josh? All you do is keep changing the subject when asked.

I was told by Dave, live at CES the 1st day I went there that they were shipping in "a couple of weeks." Based on his body language that have used the past decade to determine poker bluffers and other interpersonal situations, I believe this man to be lying, knows he is lying, and generally dishonest in the way he spoke to me. (http://www.jnforensics.com/#!books/cnec Joe Navarro, former FBI agent writes amazing books on this subject and I credit him partly for what I look for in other humans telling me what could be lie and what could be truth)

When I go back the next day to find what the actual hardware BFL brought to CES2013, of course this happened, Cue'd to when the BFL rep so rudely curses at me and hands me a quarter:

http://youtu.be/UlWrmIqGs3Y?t=2m40s

I can only imagine the pain felt by those with pre-orders to see the man who runs this company act in such a way on the CES floor convention floor

Please elaborate on the points of contention between Josh and your accounts.

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Quote from: smoothie on January 13, 2013, 01:35:45 PM

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

I do love how he's taken to trolling BFL though. I wonder what that portends for their 19th shipping date with nothing to show but some paperwork.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

So what's the hard date josh? All you do is keep changing the subject when asked.

I was told by Dave, live at CES the 1st day I went there that they were shipping in "a couple of weeks." Based on his body language that have used the past decade to determine poker bluffers and other interpersonal situations, I believe this man to be lying, knows he is lying, and generally dishonest in the way he spoke to me. (http://www.jnforensics.com/#!books/cnec Joe Navarro, former FBI agent writes amazing books on this subject and I credit him partly for what I look for in other humans telling me what could be lie and what could be truth)

When I go back the next day to find what the actual hardware BFL brought to CES2013, of course this happened, Cue'd to when the BFL rep so rudely curses at me and hands me a quarter:

http://youtu.be/UlWrmIqGs3Y?t=2m40s

I can only imagine the pain felt by those with pre-orders to see the man who runs this company act in such a way on the CES floor convention floor

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BFL HARD SHIP DATE: December 25th, 2099.

Was that so hard Josh? lol Cheesy

ftfy.

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BFL HARD SHIP DATE: December 25th, 2013.

Was that so hard Josh? lol Cheesy

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:10:57 PM

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely. I might even give it to you before that, too. Cause I'm just a nice guy like that.

20th?
of this month?

even kano and yochdog haven't been flown in yet.

lol.

i guess people will be shipped out empty boxes with fans and spacers.
asic devices later on, 3-4 months later.

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See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.

Perhaps the moderator who was so harried can weigh in on the nature and magnitude of the harassment they received from the Avalon team. Also it would be interesting to know which mod coordinates with BFL such that Inaba can come up with such detailed information.

I will say that it looked unsightly when BFL spammed the Avalon thread, and also looked somewhat discretionary (e.g., the excuse that they were tamping down lies didn't seem to fly.) By the same token, it actually does not look that great going the other direction. The same argument about 'free time' in what one would expect to be fairly busy days down at the shop applies.

That said, I find it wildly entertaining when one vendor harasses another, and also relatively informative since the various ASIC [would-be] vendors probably have more insight into the field (that is, producing/scamming) that the average Joe here.

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See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

I do love how he's taken to trolling BFL though. I wonder what that portends for their 19th shipping date with nothing to show but some paperwork.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

So what's the hard date josh? All you do is keep changing the subject when asked.

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely.

Great.

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You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely. I might even give it to you before that, too. Cause I'm just a nice guy like that.

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Quote from: Inaba on January 13, 2013, 12:09:47 PM

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 09:02:50 AM

BFL. Echo chamber is strong, can talk shit about competition whilst not release a clear shipping date ever.

Sure, we could release a hard date... but let me see if i get this straight:

You are releasing your product in 6 days. Yet you are going to fly to get the chips tomorrow (Monday), leaving you 5 days to mount, assemble, test, pack and ship your product? Really? You haven't even demonstrated a working product yet, why is that?

Seems to me, if you had a working test product, you'd have shown it by now, but maybe not. Seems silly, though... if you wanted to be the first, you would show your working prototype, that would qualify you as first at this point. What possible reason could you have for not showing a working unit 6 days before you are scheduled to ship?

BFL_Josh, Inaba,

Where is your working product? Where is your working test product? Pix and video?

Still waiting...lol

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 13, 2013, 01:10:57 PM

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

You'll get your evidence as indicated by a very public countdown timer.

The question real is "When am I going to get the hard date Josh?"

Not sure what or why you're quoting for "historical purpose" but rock on brother. Not like I ever try to remove my previous posts or change my statements. Are you seriously denying the fact that you wouldn't pitch a little hissy fit if I came to your thread and started asking hard questions?

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product. So there's your answer. Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

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See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here. I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread. If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.