Well, silicon chips are made of it, so it would certainly be problematic if it didn't conduct ...
Though it is the wikipedia, it's probably close to correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
(look for the word conduct in a few places there)
Topic: [Archive] BFL trolling museum - page 38. (Read 69394 times)
I'm a bit confused, possibly a bit ignorant, about this:
"Silicon is an excellent thermal conductor"
Isn't "silicon" basically silica -> sand -> glass?
Isn't glass *often* used as a thermal insulator?
What am I overlooking, please?
(Not a troll post. I'm assuming there are details I don't know.)
Above quote taken from: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
"Silicon is an excellent thermal conductor"
Isn't "silicon" basically silica -> sand -> glass?
Isn't glass *often* used as a thermal insulator?
What am I overlooking, please?
(Not a troll post. I'm assuming there are details I don't know.)
Above quote taken from: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
tl;dr update:
October missed
November missed
December missed
January missed
February maybe
February maybe
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
This thread is clearly full of trolls trolling.
Josh is one of them mind you.
I always appreciate people who take the high ground. Maybe because I have plausible deniability regarding them being a troll or maybe because i'm less likely to "strangle someone" (as meowmeow said in jest) after reading his posts.
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
This thread is clearly full of trolls trolling.
Josh is one of them mind you.
How is this BFL update not considered a f'ing troll post? It reads like they are experiencing delays so that they can exceed customer expectations.
They are just fixing their mistakes. And yielding to the community regarding their dumb MCU logic for jobs.
There are just so many ridiculous cliches that can be applied to this. I just want to strangle someone - where's MPOE-PR.
/troll
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
This thread is clearly full of trolls trolling.
Josh is one of them mind you.
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
This thread is clearly full of trolls trolling.
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
Wait another 30 days AT LEAST until you get your "ASICs".
I suspect there will be more delays after February 17th
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
Yeah, agreed. Most of this thread consists of trolling from all directions. The latest update actually has useful and interesting information though: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
augustocroppo - don't bother there is almost nothing in this thread worth reading except the latest update on the BFL site.
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
I'm not vouching for it's validity, just simply pointing out that there is almost nothing else worth spending the effort to read even 20 pages of the crap in here
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We descend upon the Post Office, DHL, UPS and FedEx like a horde of angry locust
Since I'm a nice guy, I'll save you some time and money. All the delivery options mention above will come to you and pick up.
Not sure if this has been addressed, but will units needing external power have a US-type cord if shipped to a country that has different outlets? I'm aware they make adapters, but more curious than anything else.
Well thought-out post, Josh. I'm sure it'll now be pecked at like a free-range chicken in Jody's garden.
Later, bud.
~Bruno K~
Good point. No tests have been mentioned. So um...are we back in the timeline of like September of last year?
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
Functional testing can be done in about a day if they have everything set up; give another day if minor firmware changes are needed (likely). He gave a week for packaging in that timeline, but packaging can go much faster than that. They'll have the first chips in functional testing while the rest are being packaged.
And if testing doesn't go as planned?
Just because you test doesn't mean everything will go 100% smoothly.
Edit: I think the issues will be more towards the actual ASIC chips themselves and NOT the firmware.
mm hmm. Changing the package type sounds pretty significant. I doubt they can just hand tweak the existing synthesized logic to make that kind of change, so that means a whole new synthesis.
All theoretical objects behave as theoretically planned for ..
Reality which is still to be seen re ASIC is still theoretical...So sure make all the changes you want as it wont affect anything in the theorectial plane of existance where BFL live...
bASIC just left & entered reality and we saw how their chips behaved on the reality plane
I dont think many saw that un-expected behaviour (me included)...lol
Another pile of verbal shit that can be condensed to a couple sentences.
edit:
....blah
Whatever.
edit:
Ohh, I forgot. Get ready for asicminer.
edit:
....blah
Whatever.
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Ohh, I forgot. Get ready for asicminer.
Good point. No tests have been mentioned. So um...are we back in the timeline of like September of last year?
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
Functional testing can be done in about a day if they have everything set up; give another day if minor firmware changes are needed (likely). He gave a week for packaging in that timeline, but packaging can go much faster than that. They'll have the first chips in functional testing while the rest are being packaged.
And if testing doesn't go as planned?
Just because you test doesn't mean everything will go 100% smoothly.
Edit: I think the issues will be more towards the actual ASIC chips themselves and NOT the firmware.
mm hmm. Changing the package type sounds pretty significant. I doubt they can just hand tweak the existing synthesized logic to make that kind of change, so that means a whole new synthesis.
Of course they were already screwing with the clock tree to begin with. Not exactly a minor change.
Yup so point made. Hoping that tests go 100% smoothly is like hoping that everyone involved in bitcoin will profit. We are all going to be rich!....can't happen.
Good point. No tests have been mentioned. So um...are we back in the timeline of like September of last year?
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
Functional testing can be done in about a day if they have everything set up; give another day if minor firmware changes are needed (likely). He gave a week for packaging in that timeline, but packaging can go much faster than that. They'll have the first chips in functional testing while the rest are being packaged.
And if testing doesn't go as planned?
Just because you test doesn't mean everything will go 100% smoothly.
Edit: I think the issues will be more towards the actual ASIC chips themselves and NOT the firmware.
mm hmm. Changing the package type sounds pretty significant. I doubt they can just hand tweak the existing synthesized logic to make that kind of change, so that means a whole new synthesis.
Of course they were already screwing with the clock tree to begin with. Not exactly a minor change.
Well I like that they agreed to 'the' queue request finally 
I am also looking forward to this feature.
Well I like that they agreed to 'the' queue request finally
Good point. No tests have been mentioned. So um...are we back in the timeline of like September of last year?
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
Functional testing can be done in about a day if they have everything set up; give another day if minor firmware changes are needed (likely). He gave a week for packaging in that timeline, but packaging can go much faster than that. They'll have the first chips in functional testing while the rest are being packaged.
And if testing doesn't go as planned?
Just because you test doesn't mean everything will go 100% smoothly.
Edit: I think the issues will be more towards the actual ASIC chips themselves and NOT the firmware.
Don't worry. If the test fails, it'll only add another 4-6 weeks.
Good point. No tests have been mentioned. So um...are we back in the timeline of like September of last year?
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
No tests? wow...yeah that will be a smooth process over the next 30 days.
Functional testing can be done in about a day if they have everything set up; give another day if minor firmware changes are needed (likely). He gave a week for packaging in that timeline, but packaging can go much faster than that. They'll have the first chips in functional testing while the rest are being packaged.
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