Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 52.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

- As for me, I don't often play gambling, there are times when I win, but it doesn't happen often. But I usually always lose playing in a casino. Also, I don't gamble every day either. If I have a lot of money I only play there honestly.

But I can't deny that sometimes when I'm lucky enough to play, I sometimes wonder if gambling is a good way to earn money. But I also realized that winning in gambling is really just luck and that is the truth here.

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Quote from: demonica on July 09, 2023, 09:14:16 AM

There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.

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I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.

I believe, you can see professional gamblers more on the poker players as well as sports bettors.
Because some people can really make a living out of these gambling games.
But if you are talking about luck-based games such as dice, roulette, I don't think you can have someone to be professional gambler and at the same time living from this kind of game.
And if they are professional so to speak, it means, they can contain themselves when in front of their games and control how and when to stop.
Addicts usually have no control of what they are doing, they keep on pushing themselves up until they are broke or deep in trouble with debts.

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Quote from: demonica on July 09, 2023, 09:14:16 AM

There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.

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https://www.algamus.org/blog/thinking-you-are-a-professional-gambler

I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.

I believe, you can see professional gamblers more on the poker players as well as sports bettors.
Because some people can really make a living out of these gambling games.
But if you are talking about luck-based games such as dice, roulette, I don't think you can have someone to be professional gambler and at the same time living from this kind of game.
And if they are professional so to speak, it means, they can contain themselves when in front of their games and control how and when to stop.
Addicts usually have no control of what they are doing, they keep on pushing themselves up until they are broke or deep in trouble with debts.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

There are successful gamblers that are addicted to gambling and there are successful gamblers that are not addicted to gambling, but for me, the real success in gambling is winning some and yet not losing everything you've got, successful gamblers know the fact about gambling and he does not force anything, he knows how and when to quit what matters to him is he is having fun and its not about making money and beating the house because in reality you really cannot, he is a good reviewer and do not have a strong attachment to any casino, he is independent on all his action and gambling activity.

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There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.

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https://www.algamus.org/blog/thinking-you-are-a-professional-gambler

I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.

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Successful gamblers are different from most gamblers because successful gamblers have advantages over other gamblers so they can balance gambling and their lives and enjoy their wins. Successful gamblers have more advantages so they can be wise in playing gambling and will not experience problems. Even though they may encounter problems in gambling, they will calm down while looking for a way out. So I guess successful gamblers are not gambling addicts because they can control themselves well.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

If I'm not mistaken, I think that the clarification is broad and the explanations are varied, what else is related to gambling, whether they are successful or not, for me in understanding for someone who is active in gambling cannot be seen as their success as an addiction, there are many things and reasons to see someone is already addicted.

clarification, sometimes we have seen people who are unlucky and not successful in gambling, they can be seen as gamblers who are addicted, but sometimes people who are successful in gambling can be seen as not addicted, for that one's success cannot be judged by addicts, I can understand addiction is a person's morals and behavior and success is something lucky for them.

I have seen people who have gambled only once, won big and succeeded in gambling, he is not an addict.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No I don't think so, because even if he spends a long time or a lot of money in his gambling but if the end result makes him a successful gambler which means it gives him a lot of money then it is a profitable activity, whereas addiction is more destructive and detrimental, so a successful gambler cannot be said to be an addict at all, because addicts have difficulty controlling so if he is successful and can add more and more money, it means he understands when to play and stop, understands what percentage of the money he has that he can use to play and have good bankroll management so that they can increase their finances from the results of their gambling activities.

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Quote from: Eternad on July 09, 2023, 08:22:17 AM

It’s very hard to be on profit in gambling while playing continuosly due to house edge. Most of the successful is focus on the quality of their bets for a better accuracy than placing multiple bets with less analysis.

I think house edge is not just the only reason that an addict or consistent bet player would fail. Yes casinos are designed in the way that you will lose more than you will profit, therefore a consistent player is already design to fail more times except with the exception to win jackpot when it is his luck to win. So naturally, house edge is concluded already on that reason for losing but because addict and consistent player does that with sole aim to chase back the loses, so they will lose more but successful player is more relaxed to play less times and even when in loss, he doesn't allow the emotion to have a better part of him.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

It’s more on a passion or hobby instead of addiction is the right term on this case since addiction is always incorporate with compulsive gambling while passion is being good on what you are doing which is on this case is gambling. You can’t win on gambling if you are addicted since you will never stop playing. All successful gambler usually know when to stop and play to control their bankroll.

It’s very hard to be on profit in gambling while playing continuosly due to house edge. Most of the successful is focus on the quality of their bets for a better accuracy than placing multiple bets with less analysis.

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You won't find a successful gambler in gambling unless they are playing skilled gambling. These gamblers are basically known as pro gamblers and you wouldn't find a lot of them. There are lottery winners who I do not consider successful winners and you can consider them addicts as they are playing with their luck. With luck games, gamblers are addicts and I do not consider their winning a success. They would have lost a lot of money before luckily winning big.

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I don't think others referred to successful gamblers as addicts. Most likely, they are referred as lucky gamblers and most of them are professional gamblers that play poker, for example, those in tournaments. Meanwhile, if you are a loser but still keep on playing, prioritize gambling over important matters. They are called a gambling addict.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

No, successful gamblers are not called addicts. They are often referred to as gambling professionals, geniuses, lucky individuals, saints, or receive other compliments. On the other hand, losers tend to be labeled as addicts by non-gamblers. This is what I observed during the past years, I believe this is true.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No I won't classify successful gambler as an addict and these are the reasons. First, if you are called a gambler addict it could mean you are not successful in gambling because if you understand the word addict or the way that the society identify it, it is not what is attached with someone positive and the society always have good names for what is good, people associate with success and not failure. What I think about addict is failure even if you will see some addict to be successful but rare.

Another valid point is for someone to be successful, they would have been operating professionally and keeping to the rules of gambling like understanding that if it is gambling then luck is involved, play with limits and not play just as your fingers push you to and all of these are part of the characteristics of an addict. In essence, they are different. Successful gamblers are not always addicts because they could be playing with limits and guiding their emotions.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

The term success can be relative. Most people believe that successful gamblers are the people who win large sums or who consistently win big. But I think any gambler that sets a goal and achieves it is successful. When you have a plan and follow it to achieve a stated objective, you have achieves success. Some people are gaming because it entertains them, if they derive fun and are happy, that's a success. I have a friend that wants to be a millionaire through gambling. Until he becomes a millionaire, he is not successful. A successful gambler derives the utmost satisfaction from his gambling life over some time.

The answer to the question of whether successful gamers are addicts is still relative. Successful gamblers are not usually addicts. An addict cannot control his gambling activities, hence he is never satisfied with his gambling outcomes. A successful gambler has control over his gambling life and knows when to stop or continue because he has a preplanned expected outcome. So he achieves success because he has a goal he wants to attain. But a gambling addict will never be content with his win because he has no control over his habits.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 08, 2023, 03:53:42 PM

If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.

If gambling has become a profession, i.e. your regular source of income, it can probably be called an addiction. You can't do without betting on sports or poker. Otherwise, you will be out of money. I think that even if a gambler gets a regular job, like a shop assistant or a warehouse worker, he will want very much to keep gambling. So gambling is an addiction in one way or another.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I assume you're mentioning successful gambler as someone who became rich by gambling alone. If that is right the society will not see them as addicts but celebrate them for how much lucky they are.

Addiction has nothing to do with the success, even when someone is doing great in gambling is obsessed with gambling and can't focus on others it's bad for them and success in such thing can change overnight so it's always good to stay neutral.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 09, 2023, 05:48:26 AM

Can we define what gambling addiction is?

It's only someone who keep gambling continuously or it's someone who keep gambling continuously despite they lose a lot money and ruin their life? If you consider the first choice, it's not a problem because an addicted successful gambler will keep making money. While the other one, become a gambling addict sounds bad.

If you're making money through trading Bitcoin, it's not a problem to say you're an addicted trader isn't?

I would agree with this although the reality though is that successful gamblers,the ones we see in different streaming services should be addicted because they keep streaming and streaming very often,sure they get money out of the streams they do but they also lose a lot of money from what I have seen in the long run.Now I don't know if they are paid by the casinos they promote (most likely they are) which makes them successful gamblers as they are playing with other people money,in this case from the casino they promote and this is a great way to be successful,whatever they win they keep it themselves and ask for more money to promote further the casinos that they offer money to do so.So yes in most cases successful gamblers are addicted.

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Quote from: Obari on July 08, 2023, 03:44:50 PM

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Maybe they experience that condition but they successfully combat those negative traits and became successful on what they are doing today. They just develop a good discipline for their selves that's why they are successful on their gambling careers. Although not all can copy what they do since we all know that it needs a lot of time and money before we can successfully reach to that path.

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 08, 2023, 03:54:47 PM

The question is, is there anyone who can be referred to as a successful gambler since it is now evident that gambling doesn't guarantee stability and it winning is highly based on luck and for that, it's hard to see anyone who will make a good amount of money from gambling that can make you successful gamblers.

People may see anyone who gamble excessively to be addict, but in the end, it all depends on the individual and what they want from the active game involvement, but the chances of sliding into an addiction truly since he will be gambling excessively just to meet the set income and on a steady basis.

Yeah there are very successful gamblers and I know one very well, we're very close and his a childhood friend who basically got his life stablying money from a bet and now he owns over 5 betting outlets in my country and getting some nice investments through gambling winnings.

I know my friend too well that most times, his always analyzing one match or the other and do me he behaves more like an addict but wouldn't have to call him such because his doing very well for himself through same addiction.

Quote from: gabbie2010 on July 09, 2023, 03:29:53 AM

Successful gamblers set target and worked towards their target thus not necessarily being an addict probably they set a weekly or monthly target and win consistently though losses are inevitable, once those targets are met some will take a break, they analyze their bets and pick sure ones and stake their money, however in a long run profits accrued overtime outweigh losses, personally I believe addicted gamblers are those who gamble to become rich quickly unfortunately ended up getting rekted, while some addicted won't quick until they believe they can recover their losses, however successful gamblers don't have that kind of mindset.

I love how you too your time to explain this and I believe addiction is a state of mind and action planing because what differentiates an addict from a successful gambler is goals and drills such a gambler has towards gambling.

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