Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 54. (Read 6614 times)

For you to be successful in what ever you do you have to devote your time in it and on this topic I feel you have to be deeply involved in gambling to be successful but not everyone who gambles do get too involved, like going crazy about it.
Some people can be gambling but they don't take it to heart like they don't put much effort, they just see it as something they do for fun and they gain so much more than those who take it very seriously. So I'd say not all successful gamblers are addict. Have seen someone who won a very huge amount of money but hardly come by to gamble, he just used the money to establish his business rather than coming to gamble again. He's a gambler who's successful but not an addicted one.

As far as I know, Addiction or compulsive behaviour occurs when you someone have loss total control over what you are doing.


Let me give you a crazy scenario: a man's car brake failed and he lost control of the car, so the car stubbled and crashed, and the man died. Also, there is another man who is very good at driving and playing stunts with his car; he drives so crazy, but any time he's about to hit something, he quickly holds his brakes.

These are two different people: one loses control, and the other acts as if he's lost control but knows what he's doing. A compulsive gambler can lose a very good opportunity just to gamble, but a responsible gambler can spend any amount of time at the casino, but once it's time for his main business, he leaves for it. Even a compulsive gambler might not be as successful as you think.

I used to tell the story of a man that I know who gambles a lot but still has a cool home. He's paying his bills and those of his family, and even if he steps out, you will not believe that he's a full-time gambler But some compulsive gamblers will really become problem for their family or the society.

So, in my opinion, a successful gambler is not measured by addiction, because even a very compulsive gambler might not think of anything reasonable to do with the money they are earning from their wins. Most gamblers who really make success in that scene are often referred to as responsible gamblers.




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If you say successful gambler, it means the gambler won huge and able to beat the house so I don't think it can be classify as an addict. Often, an addict is an uncontrollable gambler who face significant losses. But despite this, still continue playing without limit and usually doesn't care even the money that he/she spent is not meant for gambling.

On the other side, successful gambler had a good result in gambling. Therefore it's worth the time, effort and money spent since in the end this gambler is not a loser. Moreover, it can happen to win huge even the gambler is not frequently playing.

There is no successful addiction and everything related to negative addiction will end in loss, and gambling addiction leads to an uncontrolled way of playing because it only plays with ambition and also passion. Gambling addicts even though they get a small win but they are very happy, but they keep on playing which in the end they still lose.
and no one succeeds in playing gambling, there are only types of players who are full of consideration and also have their own principles who sometimes always get lucky. Because they play very carefully and also play when everything is fine, especially when they are in good condition and also calm.

some people I know make gambling as job, in this situation, we can not categorize people like this as addicted, because it has become a necessity of life. I have a friend who lives with gambling,  he provides live his family with poker, and without gambling he can't feed his family. but is not as difficult as we imagine because he is professional. he has good money management, if he loses today, he still can feed his family with the winning money he saved before.

First off let's start by defining who an addict mean, according to the Oxford dictionary an addict is said to be an enthusiastic devotee of a specified thing or activity. Therefore I think it's right to classify such person as an addict, because just like you stated, to be successful in gambling you must have invested your time, effort and even money which brings us back to the explanation from the Oxford dictionary that says "enthusiastic devotee".

 It doesn't matter how successful you are or how good you're in the risk management of gambling, those who often succeed find it hard to quite since it gets them daily income no matter how little it is, sometimes most people go into gambling with the mindset of playing for fun but after Several trials that yield profits you find them gradually loving the game and constantly staking to earn more, now when they continue playing over a long period of time no matter how successful they get, they can be classified as gambling addict.

Whether a gambler is successful or he had been experiencing loss, he is an addict. This is the reason why most of the gamblers want their activities to be secure and confidential. Whatever we do to the community as well as the people in need also gets reflected as I was paying everything with the money won from gambling.

Long back itself gambling,, being drunk and having illegal relationship with more Women were all considered similar. This is how the system works. They won't board on the right path and this is the reason why even a gambler is given the name of addict easily.

I don't know about others, but I certainly wouldn't. They were successful (though idrk what you'd consider as one, since it's basically the same like winning the lottery tbf) because they managed their funds, money, and time properly. They didn't go asking for loans to bet more and were consistent enough in trying to spend what they can for that month alone, trying to get a lucky breakthrough that they can use to invest in something else. Rinse and repeat. Though I don't think anyone has investments in mind when gambling.

And to be fair, addicts may require actual help but in most cases, it's only because it's negatively affecting both themselves and their surroundings, in a really bad way. If you were an addict, but successful, I reckon most wouldn't give a damn about your case. Except for doctors, they might push you to fix some wiring in your brain since it might be what's causing you to die, but that's beside the point. Or, they're just misrecognized as addicts, I mean they are successful after all.

People who are successful in gambling may not be considered addicts because if we interpret the meaning of someone's success in gambling, it means that the person has a better ability than other people to control himself.
He can control his emotions and not obey or chase victory but manage his gambling game well to get more results.
And this successful gambler can really allocate time, energy and money to achieve that success without having to experience significant defeat as experienced by other people.
And usually, this successful gambler can be wiser in gambling and know how to treat gambling well so he can get something that other people would find difficult to get.

Successful gamblers mean they can make a living at gambling I don't feel there are many who can do this because all I know when it comes to gambling is luck so the word "successful gambler" is probably very rare and it's nothing but winning once in a million dollar lottery win.

Most people who are addicted to gambling have a lot of problems even though they have spent a lot of money, time, energy, emotions etc., because addiction is difficult to control but I do not reject all gamblers the same maybe some who can control when they are gambling can master what must be responsible.

The rest I would not consider this as a profession let alone for a living, in the sense that successful they can what they want from the results of gambling, while we know gambling more losses than wins.

There is no word successful gambler for me, but there are gamblers who are addicted.

This is an interesting question as it questions the criteria on how one could be called a gambling addict.

Professional gambling players may not be addicted at all at their sport IF the main criteria here is their discipline. Unlike them, addicts are more on the spectrum where they exhaust their resources and suffer due to the consequence of their actions. For professional gamblers, however, they are being paid for their skill and they have tons of sponsors that may fuel their desire to gamble.

Though this may be the case, I do think that there are still some professional gamblers that are also considered as addicts. It is somehow difficult on drawing the line between them.

You can be a successful gambler and you won’t be addicted to gambling it’s normal, you might spend time gambling and you might gamble with big amount of money( amount which you know if you lose it won’t affect you). If you are gambling and you are always winning, that those not mean you are going to be called a addicted gambler, but till you start disclosing gambling addiction characters, when you start doing things that normal gambler won’t do, their are some crazy things you will notice is being done by addicted gamblers alone just because they want to gamble, some of them are always doing illegal things like stealing in the society, gambling on loan when you visit a casino shop, talk loan because you want to gamble.

Losing excessive money is one of the criteria of gambling addiction. But it is not fulfilled for the successful gamblers, because they don't lose money, they earn some. So if it would the only criteria or the main one we should say no. But time spent and feeling a need to gamble also come into play

They may be addict because of the time and effort they've spent in gambling but they are addicted in a positive way like they know how to control their addiction, and they are realistic about their chances.
Gambling addicts play to sustain their addiction without much effort and they do not know the right and best time to quit, in gambling quitting and knowing the house edge is very important something who are addicted to gambling cannot understand.
These successful gamblers have discipline and their own methods they know when to stop and when to keep going and have insight, you can be addicted in a positive way, and by being in the positive side you are on the safe side.

Seems contradictory but theres also the possibility of just being lucky.  If continually gambling, never taking cash off the table and hoping for the streak to continue then that could be seen as a problem gambler.  Not knowing or being able to stop at logical points such as being tired or having already done that well that evening would suggest possibly a problem could develop not that it must do so.   Always try to bet less at times, I do know some people only want to bet more which is where it will lead to a problem I think stay regular and stick to some plan dont just react in a moment.

Because someone is successful in gambling does not mean that they will be excluded from the being called an addict if they show behavior that is similar to what addicts to gambling portray. To be successful in something , there needs to be a lot of time that has been dedicated to that activity, but only in some few cases where the people are extremely lucky and make it even with just a little amount of time that they invest. Successful gamblers are most times addicts too, but nobody criticizes them mostly because they are successful, a benefit of success.

If they are getting positive returns on what they're doing, they wouldn't be called as addicts but more of a professional. If they, however, aren't getting anything from what they're doing, they wouldn't be branded as an addict that fast. If they are really in the 'no hope zone' wherein they are already selling a lot of things to satisfy their gambling needs, perhaps you can call those ones the addicts which will do anything and everything just to get their fill.

I prefer to say that they are dedicated, not actually addicted to the game because if they are addicted to gambling they will do two things that the majority of those addicted to gambling are doing and these are chasing their losses and keeping playing until they lose everything, those addicted to gambling do not know the word rest they keep moving, they keep betting until they lose their bankroll whereas a successful gambler knows how and when to stop because they know there's such a bad a thing as bad days in gambling.
These successful gamblers are disciplined they know the bad and the good sides of gambling and those betting on sports betting have dedicated their time and effort to knowing more about the sports to come out with better predictions, something that you can't find in a player that is addicted to gambling.

Successful gamblers are those people who do able to make money or make a living with gambling.It might sound that impossible on gambling but it is really that possible but not all would really be to reach out such condition

this is why lots of gamblers are trying out their best on reaching out this state but most of them do fail and ending up on getting wrecked up because of such intent. Gamblers do continue until they would be able on achieving something on which it would acts out as a driving force them to continue on what they have started. This is why gambling industry is really that truly profitable due to this kind of common behavior of most
gamblers.This is why you should really be stopping  this kind of success hunting because only a few would really be able to reach out such state.

Addiction is pertaining into careless actions which ending up on having no risks management compared into those players who had been playing for so long but still minding about profitability on
a very conservative way or something that he do able to manage it out.

No, I won't. For reasons being that before they became successful at gambling which is a hard feat btw, they have learnt a lot of lessons and do gambling professional as a business rather than just someone who wants to have fun or someone who does it frequently and it's out of their control.
Let's think of it like this. The same way we'd classify anyone who's good at their job, business or trading career as successful is the same way we'd do to successful gamblers.

We don't say that are business addicts or trading addicts.