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Topic: ASICMINER Auction: 10 Block Erupter Blades -ended- - page 13. (Read 102572 times)

legendary
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I recommend block bids from these 3 post count bidders, they are high risk non-paying bidder since they have nothing to lose, also it gives impression of shill bidding to the other bidders. I suggest a minimum post count of 50 to be able to bid here.
Sigh, I'll probably ask friedcat to require deposit for users <50 posts or something equivalent in future auctions. I'm trying to prevent shill/joy bidding here too - guess the state auctions have yet be in such situations then.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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I recommend block bids from these 3 post count bidders, they are high risk non-paying bidder since they have nothing to lose, also it gives impression of shill bidding to the other bidders. I suggest a minimum post count of 50 to be able to bid here.
legendary
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i do not recall reading that someone cannot withdraw their bid in the OPs original post before the auction ends.
correct me if i am wrong.

if i am correct the person is well within his rights.

if the auction ended and he did not want to pay.. that is something else entirely.

so saying you will hand out scammer tags for such a thing is mighty hilarious when obvious scammers on this
forum never get one and operate to this day.



That's how auctions work.  A bid is binding.  If you could pull out your bid it completely defeats the point of an auction and would make it very easy to fraudulently drive the price up.

I don't think you're a scammer though just misinformed.


"Although state auction rules vary slightly, all states (except Louisiana) base their auction law on the Uniform Commercial Code, or UCC. According to the UCC, (section 2-238 paragraph 3): “a bidder may retract his bid until the auctioneer’s announcement of completion of the sale, but a bidder’s retraction does not revive any previous bid.”"

I don't think you are a scammer though just misinformed.
newbie
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i do not recall reading that someone cannot withdraw their bid in the OPs original post before the auction ends.
correct me if i am wrong.

if i am correct the person is well within his rights.

if the auction ended and he did not want to pay.. that is something else entirely.

so saying you will hand out scammer tags for such a thing is mighty hilarious when obvious scammers on this
forum never get one and operate to this day.



That's how auctions work.  A bid is binding.  If you could pull out your bid it completely defeats the point of an auction and would make it very easy to fraudulently drive the price up.

I don't think you're a scammer though just misinformed.
legendary
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i do not recall reading that someone cannot withdraw their bid in the OPs original post before the auction ends.
correct me if i am wrong.

if i am correct the person is well within his rights.

if the auction ended and he did not want to pay.. that is something else entirely.

so saying you will hand out scammer tags for such a thing is mighty hilarious when obvious scammers on this
forum never get one and operate to this day.


If you read my post correctly, I stated that I will start a thread in the scammer accusation subforum - not to hand out the tag directly. There is a lot of documentation and evidence collecting work to be done before a scammer tag is handed out. Please post at the relevant threads for that if you are unsatisfied with the scammer tagging process.

Also, please read up on auctions - bids are normally considered as binding. There's a reason why the posts in this subforum cannot be deleted. I acknowledge that running such an auction without requiring a deposit is an error in itself as I underestimated how low people would go to.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
i do not recall reading that someone cannot withdraw their bid in the OPs original post before the auction ends.
correct me if i am wrong.

if i am correct the person is well within his rights.

if the auction ended and he did not want to pay.. that is something else entirely.

so saying you will hand out scammer tags for such a thing is mighty hilarious when obvious scammers on this
forum never get one and operate to this day.

legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
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delariaBTC70
alexukBTC65
JHendersonBTC63
JHendersonBTC63
JHendersonBTC63
marto74BTC62
BlackLilacBTC62
LainZBTC62
otterBTC62
bajanboostBTC61

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newbie
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member
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donator
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I'll take up to all 10 @ 55BTC each if any final bids fall through.

you already have a bid @ 62.
so you can't in no circumstance take 10 @ 55


haha ok ok I never claimed to be a mathematician.
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sr. member
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I'll take up to all 10 @ 55BTC each if any final bids fall through.

you already have a bid @ 62.
so you can't in no circumstance take 10 @ 55
donator
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I'll take up to all 10 @ 55BTC each if any final bids fall through.
legendary
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Please remove my bid , I have an opportunity to get Avalon #2 product @ better $/GHs .
I'll put my coins  there.
Sorry for this.
Happy bidding everybody

I am pretty sure you can't remove bids in an auction thread....
You cannot remove your bids, as this is the entire point of holding an auction.

Not nitpicking here.... But you can't force someone to pay up (maybe you can give them a scammer tag....?).

This is where a deposit to bid would be a good way to discourage frivolous bidding.  But that horse has bolted for this auction.
I know - friedcat didn't impose the deposit system when he started this thread.  I'll start a thread on Scammer Accusations when this auction ends if there's joybidders who do not intend to uphold their bids.
hero member
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Please remove my bid , I have an opportunity to get Avalon #2 product @ better $/GHs .
I'll put my coins  there.
Sorry for this.
Happy bidding everybody

I am pretty sure you can't remove bids in an auction thread....
You cannot remove your bids, as this is the entire point of holding an auction.

Not nitpicking here.... But you can't force someone to pay up (maybe you can give them a scammer tag....?).

This is where a deposit to bid would be a good way to discourage frivolous bidding.  But that horse has bolted for this auction.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
Please remove my bid , I have an opportunity to get Avalon #2 product @ better $/GHs .
I'll put my coins  there.
Sorry for this.
Happy bidding everybody

I am pretty sure you can't remove bids in an auction thread....
You cannot remove your bids, as this is the entire point of holding an auction.
newbie
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Merit: 0


Surely you are no shareholder. If avalon wants to churn out machines for low money that later sell for a multiple on ebay its their thing. Asicminer wont do this.

I am not a shareholder of AM. Risk is too great, and I would rather put money behind companies that have greater transparency with their operations and audited financials. Not a knock against what AM is doing as it is producing for the time being. That is only a matter of investing style and personal risk tolerance. Regardless of ownership, AM should be most concerned with producing results for the shareholders.

Fact - Competition exists and other products are coming to market. The unknown is the amount of time it will take. AM shareholders don't have to use the Avalon formula for pricing, however it can be a jump point to determine pricing. The auction is an attempt to determine pricing and maximize value. The challenge with the pricing is that demand is greater than supply for ASIC mining at this very moment. Over the next few weeks with other ASICs deployed and competition will be closer to deploying other units. More units in the market will increase the total hashing power and correspondingly reduce the percentage of hashing market share of AM. If AM has 200Th on deck, a strategy needs to be put in place to get the hardware mining online as soon as possible or sold off. The purpose is that inventory or idle workers are a liability and not generating income for AM. If there is a concern with 51% in a single pool, then allocate the additional workers to a different pool. As a result, greater efficiency will be achieved by AM and their share of total hash rate will increase.

All I am doing is offering advice for those that clearly need it. Price and sell the units however, it doesn't matter to me as previously stated I am not an AM shareholder.
hero member
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Please remove my bid , I have an opportunity to get Avalon #2 product @ better $/GHs .
I'll put my coins  there.
Sorry for this.
Happy bidding everybody

I am pretty sure you can't remove bids in an auction thread....
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Please remove my bid , I have an opportunity to get Avalon #2 product @ better $/GHs .
I'll put my coins  there.
Sorry for this.
Happy bidding everybody
legendary
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No bids below 60 each please - I have confidence that yochdog will stick to his bids (10@ 60) so bidding below that is pointless. Not that I don't have confidence with the current winning bidders though.  Wink (and that makes low bids even pointless...)

Courtesy recap of potential winners:
delariaBTC70
alexukBTC65
marto74BTC62
BlackLilacBTC62
LainZBTC62
bajanboostBTC61
DerringerBTC61
DerringerBTC61
afro25BTC61
PinwheelBTC61

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legendary
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this is crazy  Cheesy
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