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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1106. (Read 3917568 times)

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AM has connections with Avalon In China?  Shared IP between chips and designs?
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
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WTF???

You're going to find it hard for anything that doesn't have lots of $$$$$$ signs in it being anywhere close to DDoS proof.


How DDOS proof does it really need to be. I'd suggest the announcements still get posted here too, so it wouldn't be like taking down the blog would black out all ASICMINER information. What would be the consequences of having the blog taken offline by a DDOS

You guys are all quoting the wrong person. I never said the blog needs to be DDoS proof. The guy I quoted thought that paying wordpress directly would make it DDoS proof, I'm merely saying that is simply misguided and such a thing scenario would cost a lot of money.

What's wrong with a cheap blog? What's wrong with mirroring it on a cheap VPS as a hidden service? And why wouldn't he also make those posts here? He doesn't even have to run the blog, someone else could and just copy his posts he makes here to it. It would only be a convenience factor.
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You're going to find it hard for anything that doesn't have lots of $$$$$$ signs in it being anywhere close to DDoS proof.


How DDOS proof does it really need to be. I'd suggest the announcements still get posted here too, so it wouldn't be like taking down the blog would black out all ASICMINER information. What would be the consequences of having the blog taken offline by a DDOS
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I agree that it's a lot to wade through, and I've considered doing something similar, but I have some concerns. First is dealing with DDOS and hack attempts...

What about just using wordpress's own hosting, would that be DDOS proof.

Also there's a Two factor authentication plugin for wordpress. Blogspot supports tfa too




You're going to find it hard for anything that doesn't have lots of $$$$$$ signs in it being anywhere close to DDoS proof.

Freenet?
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I'd be really curious to here some methods that people are using to derive their own "fair market value" for AM shares. My method is simply to believe that AM will maintain somewhere between 10% and 30% of total network hashrate for at least the next 18 months AND will also generate some % of income from mining equipment sales, (that of course is much harder to estimate). Playing with possible values here helps me to determine my personal valuation range, even if extremely imprecise. Then there is also the intangible, which in this case is the fact that Friedcat has delivered and the current high share price indicates a belief that he will continue to do so.



Care to share your numbers either publicly or privately? Thank you.
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WTF???
I agree that it's a lot to wade through, and I've considered doing something similar, but I have some concerns. First is dealing with DDOS and hack attempts...

What about just using wordpress's own hosting, would that be DDOS proof.

Also there's a Two factor authentication plugin for wordpress. Blogspot supports tfa too




You're going to find it hard for anything that doesn't have lots of $$$$$$ signs in it being anywhere close to DDoS proof.
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Quick question: Are ASICMINER shares highly liquid? I'm just wondering how to value mine. Currently I am using the 7 day average on BTC-TC as volume is not that high. Are there OTC transactions (e.g. in the forums) moving decent amounts of shares? It looks so but I just want to confirm with everyone in here and get some ideas as to how to do this. Thanks! Smiley

Very hard to call right now. Buying power is decent, but bid books are too thin to support big sell-offs. I am buying OTC in bulk if you need an exit though Wink
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Quick question: Are ASICMINER shares highly liquid? I'm just wondering how to value mine. Currently I am using the 7 day average on BTC-TC as volume is not that high. Are there OTC transactions (e.g. in the forums) moving decent amounts of shares? It looks so but I just want to confirm with everyone in here and get some ideas as to how to do this. Thanks! Smiley
legendary
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anyone know a good place to buy these shares from a PT that i have option to withdraw and have them directly to me?
any PT has that option you guys might know of? im looking to buy some more shares but i want them direct,

thanks Smiley

Check out the last link in my sig for a comparision of the possibilities you have here...
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Maybe this is not the right place to ask, but do any of you guys have ASICMiner Block Erupter blades?

I'm looking for information on the set-up procedure and cooling solutions.
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I agree that it's a lot to wade through, and I've considered doing something similar, but I have some concerns. First is dealing with DDOS and hack attempts...

What about just using wordpress's own hosting, would that be DDOS proof.

Also there's a Two factor authentication plugin for wordpress. Blogspot supports tfa too


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I have a couple of really low end VPSes in Germany which I already paid for till next year. Anyone who is up to set the blog up, I could give you one to use.
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I was thinking.
Would it be an idea to set up a blog for ASICMINER.
Just something simple that could be used for publishing freidcat's announcements.

Maybe also announcements from the owners of the various pass-through stocks (TAT, ASICMINER-PT, G.ASICMINER-PT).

The blog wouldn't need to be anything complicated, just a simple wordpress/blogger page.

I'd be happy to set one up if people want and freidcat is OK with this.

Not that this thread isn't awesome, but 290 pages is a lot to wade through.


I agree that it's a lot to wade through, and I've considered doing something similar, but I have some concerns. First is dealing with DDOS and hack attempts...
full member
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I was thinking.
Would it be an idea to set up a blog for ASICMINER.
Just something simple that could be used for publishing friedcat's announcements.

Maybe also announcements from the owners of the various pass-through stocks (TAT, ASICMINER-PT, G.ASICMINER-PT).

The blog wouldn't need to be anything complicated, just a simple wordpress/blogger page.

I'd be happy to set one up if people want and friedcat is OK with this.

Not that this thread isn't awesome, but 290 pages is a lot to wade through.
legendary
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I'd be really curious to here some methods that people are using to derive their own "fair market value" for AM shares. My method is simply to believe that AM will maintain somewhere between 10% and 30% of total network hashrate for at least the next 18 months AND will also generate some % of income from mining equipment sales, (that of course is much harder to estimate). Playing with possible values here helps me to determine my personal valuation range, even if extremely imprecise. Then there is also the intangible, which in this case is the fact that Friedcat has delivered and the current high share price indicates a belief that he will continue to do so.


Yes, I think that your approach is rational. 18 months seems like a realistic timescale on which you might say "even if they face stiff competition, AM still stand to be an important player in mining". Dividends for this era are estimable, plus importantly the estimate can be refined as new data comes in.

After that, things that are harder to measure become more important such as the performance of key personnel in response to the competitors who will inevitably rise. Obviously the ability of Bitfountain to deliver the 2nd generation ASIC will be critical. I do take some comfort from the fact that the Bitfountain founders all appear to be extremely capable, and from my research appear to take a long-term view of things.

The numbers from both of these points are necessarily rubbery at the moment, but it's interesting to play with the numbers and see how things could turn out.
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Bitgoblin

You may want to update that now, prices at BTCT just shot up about 10% to 1.69 with highest bids at or above 1.6.

.b

EDIT: Very nice job, btw. I wish burnside would add something more flexible on his site, albeit hopefully not as horrible as the Bitfunder thing.

The live interactive version is here, it updates with new stock prices every 10 minutes or so..  This is just a dev box, so it's a temporary URL:

http://fnords.dontexist.com/chart/ASICMINER-PT



This chart is totally great, but you forgot to state the timezone.
donator
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Well, that's where the equipment sales come in. AM can focus more on selling mining hardware when their hashrate is getting to be too large a percentage of the total network, so they're not even reliant on other vendors rolling out hardware in volume.

^This.
sr. member
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The herd is rarely right, so everyone should be asking themselves, is there something the herd has missed?

From what I can tell, a lot of people are currently investing in AM because they are frustrated with BFL and want any option other than buying more GPUs right now. I doubt many (most?) of them have a good idea of how to actually value their shares.
sr. member
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I'd be really curious to here some methods that people are using to derive their own "fair market value" for AM shares. My method is simply to believe that AM will maintain somewhere between 10% and 30% of total network hashrate for at least the next 18 months AND will also generate some % of income from mining equipment sales, (that of course is much harder to estimate). Playing with possible values here helps me to determine my personal valuation range, even if extremely imprecise. Then there is also the intangible, which in this case is the fact that Friedcat has delivered and the current high share price indicates a belief that he will continue to do so.

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