Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1136. (Read 3917568 times)

Quote from: wtfvanity on May 03, 2013, 11:14:48 AM

Why not merged mine NMC at a pool with merged mining? (not sure if btcguild still has it). Could be earning 108% more.

Stratum protocol doesn't support NMC. 108% more sounds misleading, do you mean 108%? Or do you mean 8% more?

hmm, if earning is 100, then 100 * 108%, what do you get? or did I learn math wrong?

Stratum does support NMC, mine at bitminter.com and you'll see.

Slush also supports Stratum with NMC. And it's 8%-ish more, or 108% of what we're now getting (not net of fees, of course, and Slush's are lower than 3%). Can't speak to bitminter. I'd also like to see the hashes spread out a bit whenever possible.

That isn't accurate from what I've read. Slush only supports NMC on getwork which has a huge fee.

I've read the same. However, although I have largely stopped mining BTC at this point, I was regularly (up to a couple of weeks ago or so) getting NMC about every fifth block or so with Slush, and always on Stratum.

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Again, stratum protocol does not support merge mining name coins. That is probably the biggest hurdle. But, maybe some programming would be worthwhile to make that possible. even if it were just 2% extra, you could be talking about 10,000USD extra a month, which may pay for itself in just a few days if the whole ship heads solo.

and why is it here
http://mmpool.bitparking.com
possible?

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From an operational integrity point of view it would make sense to split capacity into several separate distinct units and mine them separately, perhaps 1/3rd solo and 1/3rd each on two different pools. That way if one has a problem then the loss is only 1/3rd of capacity. This also helps mitigate the 50%+ problem.

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Quote from: ineededausername on May 03, 2013, 09:38:48 AM

We can only connect well to BTCGuild right now, so the answer is... never. Until we solo-mine.

Why is this? What prevents ASICMINER to mine on other Stratum pools with selectable share difficulty, like 50BTC or whatever other Stratum pool? Not complaining here, but I really don't have a clue why "we can only connect well to BTCGuild right now".

I admit I haven't read the full 220 pages of this thread, but I estimate that the thread has grown too large to avoid repeats, if that question was already answered in the past.

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Quote from: nebulus on May 02, 2013, 10:06:01 PM

Damn, so many haters here. You, guys, have got to give credit for all the work friedcat has done so far (processing payments from the auctions, distributing dividends, deploying and shipping equipment) because it's due. He definatelly exceeded my expectations.

In case it is me you call a hater: I am not.

I am just correcting bad information spread by others who say that "everything is rosy and went perfectly as expected".

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Quote from: friedcat on May 02, 2013, 11:00:13 PM

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I would love to know

1. What are the two-three month perspective on hashrate, earnings, and profitability
2. What are the funding requirements to reach those goals and how will that funding take place?
3. What is the current financial situation of the company (ie assets, liabilities, running costs, currency denominations, and so on)
4. What is the policy on managing capital (ie is it exchanged every week, do they set aside capital for unforeseen expenses, etc)

1. 62+200=262TH/s. Earnings and profitability highly depends on the competitors and how the price range the purchasers will accept after two to three months. And please bear in mind that they are perspectives, only bonds could usually give a fixed range of profit predictions.
2. The final margin cost for 1TH/s is less than 10k$, the actual number depends on the volatile price of PCB components. Installing and power bill are currently low. We will be self-funded.
3. We are virtually free of any liabilities at this moment. The rest, as said above, will be generated from our Bitcoins and fiat transactions as well as contracts.
4. They are all set aside as reserves for the future. We do not get the Bitcoins sold only one day before the merchants knock our door asking for payments.

And for the Block Erupter USB sticks. Please stay tuned for later news.

Very nice update, friedcat, much appreciated. This answers, combined with your expectations of periodic financial updates, the concerns that I had almost to perfection.

One follow-up question, or rather request for confirmation; you mentioned in 2) that you will be self-funded. I assume that means you won't be looking at external investors but that funding will still need to come from regular earnings and thus reduce dividends from current levels?

Finally, and as mentioned, this would at least be sufficient to me: Are you comfortable with the progress you are making according to your plans?

I'm asking this because I know you and your partners have the same interests in this as we have, and if you are satisfied, that probably means we should be too.

Thanks again from a still confident shareholder,

.b

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Quote from: wtfvanity on May 03, 2013, 11:14:48 AM

Again, stratum protocol does not support merge mining name coins. That is probably the biggest hurdle. But, maybe some programming would be worthwhile to make that possible. even if it were just 2% extra, you could be talking about 10,000USD extra a month, which may pay for itself in just a few days if the whole ship heads solo.

It may not "support" it, but it works well anyway on both BitMinter (NMC) and Bitparking (NMC, IXC, DVC) pools.

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WTF???

Here's a better quote one quoting Slush saying they do not support NMC on stratum.

Quote from: BlackPrapor on May 01, 2013, 04:41:30 AM

Quote from: gbx on April 28, 2013, 09:08:20 AM

Quote from: BlackPrapor on April 28, 2013, 02:54:40 AM

I just checked the Slush stats, and I can't stop wondering why Slush with 8Ths is making dozens of times less nmc blocks than bitminter pool with its 5.8Ths: https://bitminter.com/blocks?commodity=NMC. Huh

I think he explained that earlier...

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Stratum pool don't have support for Namecoin (yet), so around 30% of hashpower isn't mining for Namecoin. Still you should have higher namecoin income than on other pools, because quite a lot people didn't filled NMC address...

I'm considering to drop of NMC support, because this project is basically dead and current merged mining sources are incompatible with latest bitcoin development (no support for merged mining over getblocktemplate etc). There's no project development since merged mining has been introduced in last October...

Thanks for the info

. I couldn't find that information on the website. Profit wise its better to support nmc, as it gives ~8% extra profit, at no expense. So when pool OP says that he's not going to support something that gives profit, while its a known fact that most pools are barely making any profit to stay competitive, it doesn't make any sense. Anyway, I wish Slush low CDF to make enough btc for a good website UI =).

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Quote from: gramma on May 03, 2013, 11:14:57 AM

Quote from: RoboCoder on May 01, 2013, 12:43:18 PM

Why not merged mine NMC at a pool with merged mining? (not sure if btcguild still has it). Could be earning 108% more.

Stratum protocol doesn't support NMC. 108% more sounds misleading, do you mean 108%? Or do you mean 8% more?

hmm, if earning is 100, then 100 * 108%, what do you get? or did I learn math wrong?

Stratum does support NMC, mine at bitminter.com and you'll see.

Slush also supports Stratum with NMC. And it's 8%-ish more, or 108% of what we're now getting (not net of fees, of course, and Slush's are lower than 3%). Can't speak to bitminter. I'd also like to see the hashes spread out a bit whenever possible.

That isn't accurate from what I've read. Slush only supports NMC on getwork which has a huge fee.

Also.. want to make a pitch (again) about merged mining nmc, dvcm ixc under stratum. I know they may be dead coins to some, but they still can be converted to btc - at least nmc - because the conversion to btc rate is enough to make it noticable when the btc rates are as high as they are..

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Quote from: TheSwede75 on May 03, 2013, 10:45:01 AM

Why not merged mine NMC at a pool with merged mining? (not sure if btcguild still has it). Could be earning 108% more.

Stratum protocol doesn't support NMC. 108% more sounds misleading, do you mean 108%? Or do you mean 8% more?

hmm, if earning is 100, then 100 * 108%, what do you get? or did I learn math wrong?

Stratum does support NMC, mine at bitminter.com and you'll see.

Slush also supports Stratum with NMC. And it's 8%-ish more, or 108% of what we're now getting (not net of fees, of course, and Slush's are lower than 3%). Can't speak to bitminter. I'd also like to see the hashes spread out a bit whenever possible.

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WTF???

Why not merged mine NMC at a pool with merged mining? (not sure if btcguild still has it). Could be earning 108% more.

Stratum protocol doesn't support NMC. 108% more sounds misleading, do you mean 108%? Or do you mean 8% more?

hmm, if earning is 100, then 100 * 108%, what do you get? or did I learn math wrong?

Stratum does support NMC, mine at bitminter.com and you'll see.

Technically you were wrong. They could be earning an extra 8%, not 108% more. Also: Why not merge mine all the SHA256 coins if you are going to go down that road. IX, DEV and NMC.

That's what I was saying. You said 108% more. You meant you could earn 108%. There is a huge difference between that.

Again, stratum protocol does not support merge mining name coins. That is probably the biggest hurdle. But, maybe some programming would be worthwhile to make that possible. even if it were just 2% extra, you could be talking about 10,000USD extra a month, which may pay for itself in just a few days if the whole ship heads solo.

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