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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1284. (Read 3917058 times)

legendary
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Dont worry guys. Friedcat didnt show any sign till now that something is fake with the project. So i dont believe that you will lose any money. I think he still is confirming but has more important things to do. So i think he should work on that. You wont have to fear to lose anything if your claims were right.
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I also have not had my shares confirmed yet.
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
Friedcat, thank you for the update and for all the quality work.  I will repeat my question from few pages ago, as it is still unanswered. There are some conflicting statements and interpretations throughout this thread, so we need a definitive answer:

After investors have received their 0.1 btc per share, further profits will be distributed as (assuming X was the number of shares sold to the investors) -

(1) 1/400`000 per share, regardless of X, or

(2) 1/(200`000+X) per share, or

(3) 1/(2X) per share

 Huh

Please clarify.
Sorry for delaying. It's (1) regardless of X. Its downside of is that the portion is less than (2) and (3) somehow. While the upside is that it will not go diluted when later investments come in because it's always 1/400,000 no matter how Bitfountain itself gets diluted.
Thanks. This is what the contract states, but there were some confusing interpretations in the thread, so it needed clarification.
donator
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Friedcat, thank you for the update and for all the quality work.  I will repeat my question from few pages ago, as it is still unanswered. There are some conflicting statements and interpretations throughout this thread, so we need a definitive answer:

After investors have received their 0.1 btc per share, further profits will be distributed as (assuming X was the number of shares sold to the investors) -

(1) 1/400`000 per share, regardless of X, or

(2) 1/(200`000+X) per share, or

(3) 1/(2X) per share

 Huh

Please clarify.
Sorry for delaying. It's (1) regardless of X. Its downside of is that the portion is less than (2) and (3) somehow. While the upside is that it will not go diluted when later investments come in because it's always 1/400,000 no matter how Bitfountain itself gets diluted.
hero member
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Are you still confirming shares? I am still waiting.

As am I .. I sent friedcat a PM but have nothing and that was months ago... figured I would just wait until it gets close.... well

it is close!!!!

Naelr

He's still confirming them - only got my confirmation email of how many shares I have this week.
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Are you still confirming shares? I am still waiting.

As am I .. I sent friedcat a PM but have nothing and that was months ago... figured I would just wait until it gets close.... well

it is close!!!!

Naelr
legendary
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However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.

Yeah, this. It still pisses me off how BFL abused all of their investors by calling them customers and called their investments preorders. Between BFL and bASIC, a lot of bullshit has gone on that ASICMINER and Avalon and the entire Bitcoin community could have done without.

But it was pretty clear from the start that you invest as a shareholder in asicminer and that the chips from bfl has to be created first. That wasnt hidden. So everyone who bought there played the game and lost. That happens. But i dont think thats a reason to blame bfl. They are late but that was part of the things that can happen from the start.
legendary
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However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.
I thought this was because the shareholders are actual shareholders in Avalon?  With BFL, the preorders are just that - preorders.

typo? actual shareholders in ASICMINER (because this is the ASICMINER thread)
Typo!  Whoops, will go correct my post.
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However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.
I thought this was because the shareholders are actual shareholders in Avalon?  With BFL, the preorders are just that - preorders.

typo? actual shareholders in ASICMINER (because this is the ASICMINER thread)
legendary
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However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.
I thought this was because the shareholders are actual shareholders in ASICMINER?  With BFL, the preorders are just that - preorders.
hero member
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
Friedcat, thank you for the update and for all the quality work.  I will repeat my question from few pages ago, as it is still unanswered. There are some conflicting statements and interpretations throughout this thread, so we need a definitive answer:

After investors have received their 0.1 btc per share, further profits will be distributed as (assuming X was the number of shares sold to the investors) -

(1) 1/400`000 per share, regardless of X, or

(2) 1/(200`000+X) per share, or

(3) 1/(2X) per share

 Huh

Please clarify.
legendary
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Are you still confirming shares? I am still waiting.
hero member
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Thanks for the update.

Few questions:
1. Can you say with more certainty how much TH this batch of chips (the full 12 wafers) will yield?
2. What is the status of the trading platform?
3. I am guessing the deployment will take place over a period of 2 weeks, bringing boards online as you get them, or will you get all of them back in 2 weeks or more?
4. Any ASIC miner picture you can share with us? (not the actual asic chip but a working miner)

Thanks!
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.

Yeah, this. It still pisses me off how BFL abused all of their investors by calling them customers and called their investments preorders. Between BFL and bASIC, a lot of bullshit has gone on that ASICMINER and Avalon and the entire Bitcoin community could have done without.
hero member
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However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place

Props for the decency to present it as an equity deal from day one, rather than calling stock subscription "preorders" like everyone else.
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
Update

What happened last week:

1. Workshop with sufficient power supply and cables for mining farm settled.
2. Solution of mechanical parts such as sub-racks and heatsinks done and products bulk-ordered.
3. The mass production (second batch) of the chips starts in the fab.
4. The rest 6 wafers finished and in the QC stage.
5. Waiting for all the main boards assembled with chips and components done.

If our competitor meets their deadline and ships the products on time, congratulations to them. However, the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place now, than device users. because while  the everlasting free upgrade from providers for users is not possible, all our future products will benefit our shareholders. Thanks to all shareholders for taking the risks with/for us as investors in the beginning of our project. Higher risks are almost always rewarded with higher returns when the risks are eliminated. Now the biggest risks have gone so please expect the enjoying of both short-term and long-term profits of us in the next years. And also thanks for your patience.

The deploying with the whole 12 wafers may take more than two weeks. But everything is progressing well and no exceptions happened. We will make more frequent updates when any new milestones are hit.

So the completed boards should be back early Feb?
donator
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Update

What happened last week:

1. Workshop with sufficient power supply and cables for mining farm settled.
2. Solution of mechanical parts such as heatsinks done and products bulk-ordered.
3. The mass production (second batch) of the chips starts in the fab.
4. The rest 6 wafers finished and in the QC stage.
5. Waiting for all the main boards assembled with chips and components done.

We would like to say that the shareholders of ASICMINER are always in a better place now, than device users. because while  the everlasting free upgrade from providers for users is not possible, all our future products will benefit our shareholders. Thanks to all shareholders for taking the risks with/for us as investors in the beginning of our project. Higher risks are almost always rewarded with higher returns when the risks are eliminated. Now the biggest risks have gone so please expect the enjoying of both short-term and long-term profits of us in the next years. And also thanks for your patience.

The deploying with the whole 12 wafers may take more than two weeks. But everything is progressing well and no exceptions happened. We will make more frequent updates when any new milestones are hit.
hero member
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Seems the trend of the thursday morning (GMT+1) updates have been broken, and at such a crucial time. I wouldn't mind an update Smiley
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Where is my mail?  Cry
Edit: Got it! Thanks.  Grin
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