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WynX

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Quote from: friedcat on October 11, 2012, 05:49:32 AM

We haven't received any responses, auto or manually ones, from GLBSE yet.

This is an act to deal with very extreme conditions of a small probability that every other solution fails. Please send me both numbers.

I have submitted my shares for payment by GLBSE, but I still like this project and the way it was set up. Too bad the exchange blew up...do you have any concrete plans for moving the shares to another platform to be able to continue this project (I guess it is impossible to credit all the asset holders since money is spend). Can you handle the panic that is evident?

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I know the original meaning of nirvana but in my country nirvana is more widely used by the normal people as a synonymous for "the nothing". So when sending data into "the nothing"...

But i trust you anyway. You proofed your attitude of mind several times.

I only had to laugh when i read that name.

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Quote from: friedcat on October 10, 2012, 11:41:15 PM

Please send to ([email protected])

Oh no... i hope the name doesnt have a meaning...

Now in times of "pirate at 40", "nefario(u)s" and so on i check all names if they reveal hidden intents... *lol*

Its the same with me... I had 1255, sold 3 and ordered 6 new. I dont know if it went through. But i think it looks good now with glbse anyway.

Ill send my data to the email address just to be sure...

It does have a meaning, but there's nothing secretly here. I registered my gmail very early when I was fanatic with functional programming. "fn" means "functional", and "nirvana" is a hinduism/buddism word which roughly equals to a (mental) state of enlightenment.

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Quote from: data on October 11, 2012, 04:48:48 AM

I had an outstanding order for a few shares as well as my current ones. As I was away for a week, it seems quite likely that the order went through after reading about someone dumping his shares etc. Should I just send you both numbers?
Have you really heard nothing from Nefario? I was hoping that he would at least send out those mails semi-automatically.

At least the process seems to be in order now, as he is even specifically asking for the permission to hand over my data to the issuers. Like I would expect it.

We haven't received any responses, auto or manually ones, from GLBSE yet.

This is an act to deal with very extreme conditions of a small probability that every other solution fails. Please send me both numbers.

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I had an outstanding order for a few shares as well as my current ones. As I was away for a week, it seems quite likely that the order went through after reading about someone dumping his shares etc. Should I just send you both numbers?
Have you really heard nothing from Nefario? I was hoping that he would at least send out those mails semi-automatically.

At least the process seems to be in order now, as he is even specifically asking for the permission to hand over my data to the issuers. Like I would expect it.

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Quote from: friedcat on October 10, 2012, 11:41:15 PM

Daily Update

We have submitted the information to GLBSE, and are waiting for their responses.

Quote from: niko on October 10, 2012, 02:39:25 AM

Friedcat, would you like us to start sending you our claims (how many shares we own), in case you never receive official data from GLBSE? I've got my books in order, and I see my trades in the "complete trade history" csv file. That doesn't prove anything - but it may be all we've got, and as Jutarul explained above, it may be possible to reconstruct most of the database by matching people's claims based on amounts and timestamps.

In case of the possibility we could not receive the shareholders data, we begin collecting the claims ourselves.

Please send to ([email protected]) your number of shares and your Bitcoin address for receiving dividends. Please annotate that they are ASICMINER shares to avoid confusion with MU or MOORE shares. You could accompany them with any evidence you think is OK to provide. It is highly recommended that you use an address that you have its private key. By that, you may enjoy more facilities provided by our future automatic migrating platform.

2 emails sent, as I had 2 accounts on GLBSE

friedcat

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We have submitted the information to GLBSE, and are waiting for their responses.

Quote from: niko on October 10, 2012, 02:39:25 AM

Friedcat, would you like us to start sending you our claims (how many shares we own), in case you never receive official data from GLBSE? I've got my books in order, and I see my trades in the "complete trade history" csv file. That doesn't prove anything - but it may be all we've got, and as Jutarul explained above, it may be possible to reconstruct most of the database by matching people's claims based on amounts and timestamps.

In case of the possibility we could not receive the shareholders data, we begin collecting the claims ourselves.

Please send to ([email protected]) your number of shares and your Bitcoin address for receiving dividends. Please annotate that they are ASICMINER shares to avoid confusion with MU or MOORE shares. You could accompany them with any evidence you think is OK to provide. It is highly recommended that you use an address that you have its private key. By that, you may enjoy more facilities provided by our future automatic migrating platform.

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Just submitted my claim as well. Hope I remembered to check that box at the bottom Wink

Otherwise didn't have any BTC in there but once friedcat has the shareholder info it will be possible to clean things up.

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Yes. The btc arent on the way automatically. So lets see how this works out.

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Confirmed, just submitted my claim. No extra information was required.

DutchBrat

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GLBSE is open to enter information for claim processing and Bitcoin retrieval

Only information you have to enter is: e-mail, bitcoinaddress and tick a box if you want asset issuers to get that info

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jjshabadoo... I believe a decentralized glbse-exchange whose trades are stored in a alternative blockchain and all the offers decentralized at all clients as well. Nothing could happen except buying worthless shares. If government wants to crash then scramble the protocoll plus random ports. If that could be done so that transactions are save...

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Giving out your info is not a good idea, people are going to get burned...AGAIN.

I'm not even sure how any company can honor its shareholders.

Anyone who sought investment through GLBSE is going to be able to walk away with their money.

Shareholders are screwed because they must put themselves in a terrible position to have a chance at getting credit for shares owned.

Bitcoin people need to learn that solid legal financial institutions are the ONLY way to go.

Just because bitcoin is decentralized doesn't mean the whole economy should be anonymous, it won't work.

Bitcoin will never truly catch on until people stop hiding behind anonymity and start legitimate businesses with legal recourse.

We need strong, legally compliant financial institutions, there's nothing wrong with banks if they are done right.

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Quote from: niko on October 10, 2012, 01:34:26 PM

Quote from: Jutarul on October 10, 2012, 12:27:22 PM

Quote from: jjshabadoo on October 10, 2012, 11:42:12 AM

I'd be concerned about giving out info to GLBSE. Nefario is going to do anything he has to to get himself out of this mess.

I don't think buying a share in a mining OP like ASICminer should be a legal issue, but you never know.

Technically, asking for IDs at this moment is totally unnecessary, because the database has not been compromised. You could work with user ID and passwords to resolve any claims. The reason must be rooted in some legal context. At this point I have zero trust in Nefario.

Collecting personal information of this kind without privacy policy in place, government oversight, and insurance is outright illegal. There is no way this was attempted under real legal advice. Something else is going on. I can't help but notice that Pirate was also asking for investors' info from PPT operators towards the end of his scheme.

Agreed, this is ridiculous. He hasn't disclosed any information on how he would store the data, for how long, and for what purposes.

Of course, no GLBSE user ever agreed to this, so it doesn't even matter what he plans to do with the data. IANAL, but I seriously doubt this requirement would hold up in court.

If Nefario was sane / legitimate, he would return all BTC and proof of asset ownership to the users. There's no need to require AML/KYC verification during the closing.

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Quote from: Jutarul on October 10, 2012, 12:27:22 PM

Technically, asking for IDs at this moment is totally unnecessary, because the database has not been compromised. You could work with user ID and passwords to resolve any claims. The reason must be rooted in some legal context. At this point I have zero trust in Nefario.

There is absolutely no way I would trust Nefario with such information, and I would be surprised if anyone else would too - he has basically lost all the trust he once enjoyed around here.

But I'm still assuming (hoping) it'll all be solved in due time, and I hope friedcat and the gang concentrate on getting the show on the road rather than worrying about the latest drama(s).

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Quote from: Jutarul on October 10, 2012, 12:27:22 PM

Quote from: jjshabadoo on October 10, 2012, 11:42:12 AM

I'd be concerned about giving out info to GLBSE. Nefario is going to do anything he has to to get himself out of this mess.

I don't think buying a share in a mining OP like ASICminer should be a legal issue, but you never know.

Technically, asking for IDs at this moment is totally unnecessary, because the database has not been compromised. You could work with user ID and passwords to resolve any claims. The reason must be rooted in some legal context. At this point I have zero trust in Nefario.

Collecting personal information of this kind without privacy policy in place, government oversight, and insurance is outright illegal. There is no way this was attempted under real legal advice. Something else is going on. I can't help but notice that Pirate was also asking for investors' info from PPT operators towards the end of his scheme.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on October 10, 2012, 03:25:09 AM

It seems for a while the GLBSE was open to take peoples withdraw addresses.

The next page after that read:

http://i.imgur.com/CiDfd.png

What a B.S. !!! Huh

youve gotta be kidding me. This is getting crazy...

Jutarul

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Quote from: jjshabadoo on October 10, 2012, 11:42:12 AM

I'd be concerned about giving out info to GLBSE. Nefario is going to do anything he has to to get himself out of this mess.

I don't think buying a share in a mining OP like ASICminer should be a legal issue, but you never know.

Technically, asking for IDs at this moment is totally unnecessary, because the database has not been compromised. You could work with user ID and passwords to resolve any claims. The reason must be rooted in some legal context. At this point I have zero trust in Nefario.

jjshabadoo

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I'd be concerned about giving out info to GLBSE. Nefario is going to do anything he has to to get himself out of this mess.

I don't think buying a share in a mining OP like ASICminer should be a legal issue, but you never know.

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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#ASICs

This link needs to be updated. It mentions ASICMINER and GLBSE... Since GLBSE is no more, you might want to fix what is stated..

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