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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1312. (Read 3917591 times)

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A relevant story by Inaba at BFL forums:
 
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So for an update on shipping times... As you might imagine, we get this question a lot. It seems like it would be a simple question to answer, but it's not. Let me describe the process so people can better understand why.


If you look at the current FPGA board in a Single or MiniRig, you'll see lots of capacitors, resistors, etc... about 350 little tiny parts attached to the board. Contrary to some of the conspiracy theories out there, all our boards are completely custom made, they aren't purchased from another manufacturer, etc... they are designed by us and made for us and us alone. As such, we are required to volume source every single part that goes on the board.


The ASICs are similar in so far as they also have nearly 350 components on each board. With the FPGAs, we sourced parts in the hundreds or low thousands at a time. For some of the ASIC parts, we are sourcing hundreds of thousands at a time which requires direct ordering & lead time dependancy from the respective manufacturers. However, for this first batch, we're mostly able to depend on available distribution stock from places like Mouser and DigiKey. Shortly after we get the first batch of everything in, we'll have our larger mega stockpiles arrive from other vendors and/or direct from the distributors, it's just the first batch that's going to be rough.


So, we've got he myriad distributors shipping thousands of little pieces to us, the PCB manufacturer sending us the bare PCBs, the HSF manufacturer sending the HSFs to us, the PSU manufacturer sending the PSU's to us, the case manufacturer sending the cases to us and most importantly, the fab sending the ASIC chips to us. All of these must arrive on time and as expected for everything to go off without a hitch. So far, so good.


When we made our announcement for shipping dates, we padded in some extra weeks in case of delays, and as we try to herd all these cats into one corral, our padding is slowly eaten up with mostly minor problems, but they all add up. With the bump in specs, we spent some time ensuring the power subsystem is over powered to accommodate the new and future power requirements - our chips are capable of higher speeds than what we initially intended to send out in the first batch, and they still have quite a bit of headroom; We decided to go ahead design the power subsystem to handle the maximum theoretical load of the chips. This means we can now crank the board up with some minor tweaking. Each chip is theoretically capable of operating at 1 GHz, we are running them at 500 MHz with the new specs... we will likely never see 1 GHz operations, simply because of heat density issues and a few other factors, but we have at least another 25% of headroom we can play with, if not more. Again, we built in a lot of padding into the specs, just in case something went wrong. We have basically padded everything we could in terms of estimates and that padding is what has allowed us to bump specs on short notice and keep our shipping times in line even in the face of delays.


Ok, so we have the cats herded, the specs staked out, now we have to actually build these things. As many of you know, we've purchased SMT machines to allow us to manufacture our own boards - and I have mentioned this before, but many have not heard it - we will not be using the SMT equipment to process our first batch of boards; we will be using the same house that did the pick and place for our previous generation products, which means we're still at the mercy of someone else for our first batch shipments. There has been some delays at that stage, but we have the padding, so it's not been a critical issue. There has also been some delays at the foundry, but again, we have padding, so it's not been a critical issue. We are also paying for an expedited run at the foundry (which does not come cheap) to keep our timeline up. All these things have to work out perfectly and our timeline is still looking good. However, if something does not work out perfectly, our timeline is going to slip, plain and simple. We've used up most of our padding at this point and we are still ironing out a few little wrinkles here and there. This has been a long explanation for a simple answer: I would like to tell you we are still on time or pretty close to it, because we are. However, I would also like to tell you that we are going to slip a couple weeks or so if anything goes wrong, and given the complexity of the issues facing us, I would say it's almost inevitable something will crop up between now and the beginning of November that we are not expecting; What that is, I don't know yet, but I would rather error on the side of caution, say the timeline is going to slip a little bit and then surprise everyone with an early delivery than promise an early delivery and not meet that promise. So that's what I'm doing and there's your answer. When I have more information, I'll let people know as soon as I can.
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I only have a few shares (about 120-130) from what I remember but I'd like to be able to keep hold of them.

I can provide any details required by ASICMINER to claim them.

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It is a shame all this GLBSE sh*t is happening.

We should all be excited about ASICMINER getting closer and closer to launch-date, perhaps being the first ever ASICs to mine BTC

and here we are... stressing about whether or not we will get our shares back.... it's beyond ridiculous !

It is very unfortunate, and quite frankly quite annoying. But, to be fair, in retrospect it wasn't exactly government approved trading platform, and he (nefario) in his BTC2012 speech quite frankly begged for trouble. Was it a few weeks it took, after he bragged that GLBSE cannot be shut down? Smart move.

As I've said before, What we the BTC community needs, is a decent solution for trading in the blockchain, so it cannot be shut down. There are multiple solutions already available, but they aren't implemented for some reason. Whether its lack of devs or interest, can't say. But what I do know is, that shares are pretty good vessels for creating wealth to the BTC economy as it have been essential to the success of whole capitalist system as we know it. I hope that the devs would understand how important it would be.

I'm sure that friedcat will do everything he can to get our shares in order.
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It is a shame all this GLBSE sh*t is happening.

We should all be excited about ASICMINER getting closer and closer to launch-date, perhaps being the first ever ASICs to mine BTC

and here we are... stressing about whether or not we will get our shares back.... it's beyond ridiculous !
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Nef sure knows how to stir things up.
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Guess I must of been a sleep when that brief window was open where they actually decided to open up again to process our accounts.

Glad I documented what Shares I had. I was in the process of selling all mine of, but apparently was being too cautious about how quickly I did it. Had about 100 Btc in shares and ~1 Btc or so in my account. Stings a little to not have access to that still.
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It seems for a while the GLBSE was open to take peoples withdraw addresses.

The next page after that read:

http://i.imgur.com/CiDfd.png

What a B.S. !!!  Huh
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Friedcat, would you like us to start sending you our claims (how many shares we own), in case you never receive official data from GLBSE? I've got my books in order, and I see my trades in the "complete trade history" csv file. That doesn't prove anything - but it may be all we've got, and as Jutarul explained above, it may be possible to reconstruct most of the database by matching people's claims based on amounts and timestamps.
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Till the GLBSE problem settles down, I will keep daily updates here:

We are getting ready for the AML materials. We won't be necessarily giving them out, but it does no harm to prepare them.
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will you guys provide your AML information so to get the bitcoin and assets on GLBSE?

Sure, why not? I provide my information whenever I use my credit card. The only catch is, I expect GLBSE to provide privacy policy outlining how they collect, use, and safeguard my personal information.

Could there be any liability for purchasing unregulated securities? I couldn't imagine this but you never know these days....

I'm willing to take that risk. I haven't done anything wrong, and I am confident most courts would agree if it ever came to them deciding. Come on, with all the Second Life and whatnot, why would they care?  Even the whole AML story is bullshit because you cannot launder criminal proceeds using bitcoin. Anyone claiming you can have no idea about money laundering.  In fact, a good way to launder money is to have GLBSE shut down and database lost: then I can claim I bought this car not by selling crack but by trading assets there - but hey, the data has been lost, so you can't prove I didn't earn it by trading.
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will you guys provide your AML information so to get the bitcoin and assets on GLBSE?

Sure, why not? I provide my information whenever I use my credit card. The only catch is, I expect GLBSE to provide privacy policy outlining how they collect, use, and safeguard my personal information.

Could there be any liability for purchasing unregulated securities? I couldn't imagine this but you never know these days....
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
will you guys provide your AML information so to get the bitcoin and assets on GLBSE?

Sure, why not? I provide my information whenever I use my credit card. The only catch is, I expect GLBSE to provide privacy policy outlining how they collect, use, and safeguard my personal information.
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will you guys provide your AML information so to get the bitcoin and assets on GLBSE?
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Therefore, within reason, proving how many shares I've purchased.

On second thought, no, there is not sufficient/reasonable proof here.

1) My 'spreadsheet' where I documented purchases means nothing. Anyone can create a spreadsheet containing records 'matching' lines in the csv.

2) The fact that the file date of that spreadsheet pre-dates the GLBSE melt down means nothing. The time-stamp on a file can readily be altered.
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On October 3 I copied all my ASICMINER activity into a spreadsheet.

For three of my buys there is a unique hit, single entry, for qty@price against that csv.

Assuming that the second column is a timestamp, it should be trivial to match all my buys against entries in the csv. Therefore, within reason, proving how many shares I've purchased.

I've never sold any. But I don't see any way to prove that with the info available/exposed to date.

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But I'm just lucky to have copied my info before GLBSE shut down. I expect the vast quantity of share holders do not have such specific data.
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This is the complete trading and dividend history for GLBSE since the initiation of 2.0.

Trading History
Dividend History


Splendid, is there a way to check for authenticity?

The history seems to exclude direct account transfers...

Check the thread I linked to for some updates. Apparently this was based on Twitter feed which did not include IPO sales and direct transfers.
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Thats from the data from the websites right? I remember i downloaded all the pages of glbse some weeks ago too. Including all the graphs and so on. i can provide that data from 20120907-002940 utc+1.

Unfortunately you cant see the who traded with who. But at least you can see that trades happened. I backed it up with scrapbook. Let me know if that is of interest. But i think we should wait anyway until there IS a problem for sure.
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This is the complete trading and dividend history for GLBSE since the initiation of 2.0.

Trading History
Dividend History


Splendid, is there a way to check for authenticity?

The history seems to exclude direct account transfers...
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
This is the complete trading and dividend history for GLBSE since the initiation of 2.0.

Trading History
Dividend History

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
And if you dont have a csv file...
We cant log in anymore to download one....
Yes. Then you should at least submit your claimed amount and your user ID.
Anybody who does not have a csv file should keep that a secret. Otherwise people with CSV file could erase their corresponding entries, which complicates things.

I am not claiming that the procedure is perfect, but its better than nothing.
To make things more interesting, users without their csv files may be unable to provide exact amounts. You'll be getting some approximate (even if honest) numbers, so matching values in the three will have to be fuzzy, not exact. So will be the outco e of this whole thing, unless GLBSE cooperates.
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