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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:48:49 PM

I think the winning strategy at this point is to get the largest batch of chips made that is humanly possible and then move sky and earth to get the supply chain logistics worked out for all of the parts needed to build miners. It seems like every company out there is 100% selling out on PREORDERS, let alone actual miners.

Yes, but this is Friedcat, and he's acting very slow in every aspect Roll Eyes

...meanwhile the competition is very aggressive

I was really excited in November with a tapeout date of January 20th... Hopefully this week he gives us some good news to chew on..

Same here. Also "everything is still on track MASS delivery in March" is mid-April and ... nothing. Silence. No divs. No PR. Angry

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Quote from: willBTC on April 15, 2014, 05:02:23 AM

Immersion cooling system from Asicminer , check this video : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjk5MTc0MTY0.html

I don't think that's Asicminer. The title of the video is Intel, 3M, and Silicon Graphics to jointly develop a new generation of supercomputer cooling technology.

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Immersion cooling system from Asicminer , check this video : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjk5MTc0MTY0.html

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:48:49 PM

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

terrible time to sell

=good time to buy Huh

Seriously, I think the final consumption will be a bit lower and it's good enough. In this case are more important the time and the size of batches.

I think the winning strategy at this point is to get the largest batch of chips made that is humanly possible and then move sky and earth to get the supply chain logistics worked out for all of the parts needed to build miners. It seems like every company out there is 100% selling out on PREORDERS, let alone actual miners.

agree

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Quote from: bitcoin.newsfeed on April 14, 2014, 02:01:58 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:48:49 PM

I think the winning strategy at this point is to get the largest batch of chips made that is humanly possible and then move sky and earth to get the supply chain logistics worked out for all of the parts needed to build miners. It seems like every company out there is 100% selling out on PREORDERS, let alone actual miners.

Yes, but this is Friedcat, and he's acting very slow in every aspect Roll Eyes

...meanwhile the competition is very aggressive

I was really excited in November with a tapeout date of January 20th... Hopefully this week he gives us some good news to chew on..

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preparing myself for a last scooping up of AM shares on Havelock Grin

Was that you at 15:25? Wink

hehe ^^

c'mon FC! its now or never!

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Quote from: hdbuck on April 14, 2014, 01:46:30 PM

preparing myself for a last scooping up of AM shares on Havelock Grin

Was that you at 15:25? Wink

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I would like to ask him what's his end game.
Is he gonna attempt to accomplish 20%+ of the hashing power as once promised or is he switching the objectives, abandoning self-mining altogether and becoming purely a manufacturer?

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The story has been the dividend and to rebuild the revenue stream to pay that dividend takes time. The way to benefit from that dividend is in retaining stock and do so for a lengthy period of time. All ASIC makers face the same challenges as AM did so looking-glass numbers are irrelevant to actual data. Efficiency is not limited to a measurement of power it's cost/GHash of the whole system end to end for the lifespan of the product and from that perspective I remain optimistic that this product remains competitive. One would also believe AM to have a leg up on the mining piece in having existing data centers that can be reutilized. What the stock price does in the short term is somewhat irrelevant if you're in for the dividend to find the value in holding it.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:48:49 PM

I think the winning strategy at this point is to get the largest batch of chips made that is humanly possible and then move sky and earth to get the supply chain logistics worked out for all of the parts needed to build miners. It seems like every company out there is 100% selling out on PREORDERS, let alone actual miners.

Yes, but this is Friedcat, and he's acting very slow in every aspect Roll Eyes

...meanwhile the competition is very aggressive

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Quote from: der_meister on April 14, 2014, 01:45:21 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

terrible time to sell

=good time to buy Huh

Seriously, I think the final consumption will be a bit lower and it's good enough. In this case are more important the time and the size of batches.

I think the winning strategy at this point is to get the largest batch of chips made that is humanly possible and then move sky and earth to get the supply chain logistics worked out for all of the parts needed to build miners. It seems like every company out there is 100% selling out on PREORDERS, let alone actual miners.

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on April 14, 2014, 01:35:08 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

More selling on Havelock... *sigh* why do I feel like someone knows something I don't... based on what is publicly known, it would seem like a terrible time to sell right now.

I doubt it's inside knowledge. People are afraid due to the increased consumption ~~news~~ rumours, while friedcat remains silent. There may be a problem, or everything is totally fine.

The actual power consumption was never going to be as low as the simulated results, it never is. It's still one hell of an efficient chip though, especially considering that it's 40nm and it's beating its 28nm competition. The chip's working fine.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

terrible time to sell

=good time to buy Huh

Seriously, I think the final consumption will be a bit lower and it's good enough. In this case are more important the time and the size of batches.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

More selling on Havelock... *sigh* why do I feel like someone knows something I don't... based on what is publicly known, it would seem like a terrible time to sell right now.

On very low volume

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Quote from: chriswilmer on April 14, 2014, 01:02:01 PM

More selling on Havelock... *sigh* why do I feel like someone knows something I don't... based on what is publicly known, it would seem like a terrible time to sell right now.

I doubt it's inside knowledge. People are afraid due to the increased consumption ~~news~~ rumours, while friedcat remains silent. There may be a problem, or everything is totally fine.

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More selling on Havelock... *sigh* why do I feel like someone knows something I don't... based on what is publicly known, it would seem like a terrible time to sell right now.

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Quote from: teek on April 14, 2014, 07:46:14 AM

One thing to note is rockxie seems to have initially tested the chips at .72v. I'm definitely no EE, but FC did mention that the chips were versatile with several different modes. The 0.2J/G he mentioned originally was stated to be at .55v, which probably means a lower clock as well. Rockxies boards appear to have only one crystal.. i think given this setup he hasn't really been able to see what low power mode does (or overclocking for that matter). Will low power mode dump the consumption down ~50% ? MY limited experience tells me probably not, but .72 to .55 is quite a difference in and of itself..

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Quote from: teek on April 14, 2014, 07:46:14 AM

One thing to note is rockxie seems to have initially tested the chips at .72v. I'm definitely no EE, but FC did mention that the chips were versatile with several different modes. The 0.2J/G he mentioned originally was stated to be at .55v, which probably means a lower clock as well. Rockxies boards appear to have only one crystal.. i think given this setup he hasn't really been able to see what low power mode does (or overclocking for that matter). Will low power mode dump the consumption down ~50% ? MY limited experience tells me probably not, but .72 to .55 is quite a difference in and of itself..

teek

Well, the rated voltage is 0.72 and is supposed to consume 0,35 J/GH/s and does consume 0,5539 J/GH/s in rockxie's test. We're not looking at low power modes at the moment. Right now we are at 160% of the advertised consumption. Yet, I don't see any reason why this can't be optimized further. Look at the improvements KNC managed to obtain through software, and we're even talking about hardware optimizations here. This is an experimental board!

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Quote from: teek on April 14, 2014, 07:46:14 AM

One thing to note is rockxie seems to have initially tested the chips at .72v. I'm definitely no EE, but FC did mention that the chips were versatile with several different modes. The 0.2J/G he mentioned originally was stated to be at .55v, which probably means a lower clock as well. Rockxies boards appear to have only one crystal.. i think given this setup he hasn't really been able to see what low power mode does (or overclocking for that matter). Will low power mode dump the consumption down ~50% ? MY limited experience tells me probably not, but .72 to .55 is quite a difference in and of itself..

teek

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