In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL
That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.
Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 184. (Read 808905 times)
That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.
*Since* this is the speculation thread...
Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.
Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.
WOW...that is almost impossible ,I think people are more rational now other than essay to get crazy as they used to.Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.
Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.
What's impossible? The rise or the come back to 4.8?
Nothing indicates to me that 'people are more rational now' than they were two weeks ago; the bubble just popped (and yes, there can be multiple bubbles and pops).
The recent BASIC-MINING skyrocket and fall, the fact that TAT.VM only now just broke .004 (besides the dive a few weeks ago), and the fact that BFMINES is 1/3 sold tell me that people are just as crazy as they used to be.
People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product ,but get 5 times increase of its share's price...This just amazed, I do not invest even my singe BTC into this company ,The reason is simple ,they use fake picture to demonstrating as their product..I think this just a simple evidence of dishonest....
I think for the share price of ASICMINER is only determine by its P/E ratio, no matter what the price is ,if P/E ratio stay 20% per year, no reason to call it a bubble..but if P/E ratio below 20% , then the market will possibly adjusting the share price( as decrease its share price).
How many AMC shares exist?
In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL
People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product
When ASICMINER launched their IPO they only had computer models of their chip design to show as can be seen from this archived version of the official AM thread:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130305000147/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
Investing in IPO's does require having some faith (or insider knowledge).
*Since* this is the speculation thread...
Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.
Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.
WOW...that is almost impossible ,I think people are more rational now other than essay to get crazy as they used to.Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.
Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.
What's impossible? The rise or the come back to 4.8?
Nothing indicates to me that 'people are more rational now' than they were two weeks ago; the bubble just popped (and yes, there can be multiple bubbles and pops).
The recent BASIC-MINING skyrocket and fall, the fact that TAT.VM only now just broke .004 (besides the dive a few weeks ago), and the fact that BFMINES is 1/3 sold tell me that people are just as crazy as they used to be.
People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product ,but get 5 times increase of its share's price...This just amazed, I do not invest even my singe BTC into this company ,The reason is simple ,they use fake picture to demonstrating as their product..I think this just a simple evidence of dishonest....
I think for the share price of ASICMINER is only determine by its P/E ratio, no matter what the price is ,if P/E ratio stay 20% per year, no reason to call it a bubble..but if P/E ratio below 20% , then the market will possibly adjusting the share price( as decrease its share price).
Do we know if the pre-order sales on the chinese distributor website will be included in today's dividends already?
I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?
The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).
Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.
+1The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).
Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.
they are either dishonest or incompetent, I see no other explanation...
Ken couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery let alone run a mining network. He's out of his depth. The IPO was a complete and utter shambles.
Considering his intention is to fake, twist, manipulate & scam people out of lots of BTC, he's been pretty successful so far.
And used google images roger
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The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).
Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.
The fact that the operator is outbidding HIMSELF by BTC5 for ads to sell more pre-orders should not induce confidence in those who have put faith in that operation.
Oh God, not AM again. Ken couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery let alone run a mining network. He's out of his depth. The IPO was a complete and utter shambles.
ASICMINER 7 end of the month than per 4.9/BTC.
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry
If your english is even worse than mine please use the fucking google translator. Thank you!
lol. I am suspecting he *did* use Google Translator
GT is a "tool" in so many ways ...
I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?
but that means they actually have to deliver something! actually delivering your product hurts the bottom line, guys!
Use Google Images.
Can't paste the links, they're too big.
First one is random Chenbro case, second one is Avalon.
Can't paste the links, they're too big.
First one is random Chenbro case, second one is Avalon.
^+1
http://www.google.com/imghp
Then paste in the url of the picture you want to search for.
I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.
All their pictures are stolen, it's very easy to find them with reverse image search.They even stole pictures of Avalon units.
BFL delivers one year late, but I'm pretty sure those guys will never deliver.
Link? I'm not very reverse-image search saavy.
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com/example/slider2.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/f7df7e7201e9048d934cb6cdd91ed9c348c18952/
0 Results
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/img/p/3/2/32-large_default.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/00ae5d9ad6e27a4cf058af584d7f5a93a9327310/
0 Results
1 Result
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/img/p/4/0/40-large_default.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/de456ad8dd44dd047d4d59fc7e5c6922f9e32113/
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-14334141-circuit-board.php
Dunno maybe i'm doing it wrong
Sorry for the url wall
One is the link in tineye using image search one is the image and on last one with a result url of page on site and link to result along with image and search in tineye
(tinyeye is a spelling error hehe)
I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.
All their pictures are stolen, it's very easy to find them with reverse image search.They even stole pictures of Avalon units.
BFL delivers one year late, but I'm pretty sure those guys will never deliver.
Link? I'm not very reverse-image search saavy.
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AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
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THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).
Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.
In other competitor news
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
I loved the two disclaimers at the bottom of their page:
"All Fast-Hash images are prototypes, final designs may be different.
All Specification Subject To Changes."
I am guessing no third party has mined with these machines? Is this BFL part deux or a genuine disruptor? Truly curious--don't know much about them.
WOW... this is AWESOME... "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine" ready to order now.....
oh wait... "Pre" order.
<---- Goes back to the ASICMINER USB erupters IN-HAND and continues mining with it
oh wait... "Pre" order.
<---- Goes back to the ASICMINER USB erupters IN-HAND and continues mining with it
In other competitor news
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.
In other competitor news
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
THIS IS THE OTHER AM
AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s
SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine". The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™
The Fast-Hash-One is available at:
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com
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