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Topic: ASICMiner USB group buy- orders closed, pay for extra! - page 102. (Read 165774 times)

twmz

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As an example, here is what I emailed to arklan:

Quote

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My payment for 1 unit is here:

http://blockchain.info/tx/381324dc4925b62e6eb7391904e22f5dfa06bfcd488f90a0f27648cd7f5a0641

My shipping address is:

XXXX XXXXXXXX
XXXX XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX, XX XXXXX
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Signature of the text between the === lines above using one of the
sending addresses (1LWkDUVtMVUvgojDhhqDfuGu8YJCv7p2dn):

IEajXyxbq414bkBiw+GRuuIBCCfJQh7Y5d12Mjx1vRmQIuGs4RYuyNPEXCSUBEdM+PY6wiExmAvmbShrfERjzQ0=

Obviously, the signature doesn't actually match in the example above, because I X-ed out my actual shipping address.

The above proves that a) I own the address that sent the payment and b) that the shipping address hasn't been tampered with.

This was done with the Sign Message / Verify Message functionality built into bitcoin-qt: http://imgur.com/a/nUmZ0

arklan

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 08, 2013, 02:13:59 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 08, 2013, 02:01:17 PM

Quote from: Herbalconfusion on May 08, 2013, 01:58:17 PM

I have to back out. I had to pull funds for another project. Apologies.

understood. it happens.

note: i've gotten several pm's about "how will john know it's me who paid, since it's one address?" i don't have an answer. ask john, i guess?

If ~arklan receives conflicting claims, he can contact me (and the other for he will not know who is legit.)

If a dispute arises about my payment, John K. can PM me a specific small amount to pay and I can prove myself to be the legitimate claimant by doing so.

There are probably more ways to do it. Hopefully it will not come to that. But it could, and it is one of the reasons I do not believe that either ~arklan or John k. were necessarily overcompensated for their efforts. Or at least I'll be withholding judgement on it until everyone gets the devices in hand...if we ever do

also, i like this. i really hope we don't have any conflicts though... sigh.

arklan

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Quote from: Xian01 on May 08, 2013, 02:20:49 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 08, 2013, 02:01:17 PM

signed messages. include, in the email, a signed message proving ownership of the address.

I'm a bit of tard... Signing messages is not something I've done before. If someone could kindly give a primer on this, I would appreciate it.

I get that I need to send 33.6208 BTC to 1FFyoorSfwQC15Xv7zNZ4Lv5yZcM6WFKuF. I assume I would then send a signed message to that same address from Bitcoin-QT saying "Hey, that 33.6208 BTC was for Xian01" ?

close, but not quite. signing a message doesn't automatically require sending it anywhere. just include the result in the email.

Xian01

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Quote from: arklan on May 08, 2013, 02:01:17 PM

signed messages. include, in the email, a signed message proving ownership of the address.

tvbcof

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Quote from: arklan on May 08, 2013, 02:01:17 PM

Quote from: Herbalconfusion on May 08, 2013, 01:58:17 PM

I have to back out. I had to pull funds for another project. Apologies.

understood. it happens.

note: i've gotten several pm's about "how will john know it's me who paid, since it's one address?" i don't have an answer. ask john, i guess?

arklan

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Quote from: Herbalconfusion on May 08, 2013, 01:58:17 PM

I have to back out. I had to pull funds for another project. Apologies.

understood. it happens.

note: i've gotten several pm's about "how will john know it's me who paid, since it's one address?" ~~i don't have an answer. ask john, i guess?~~

signed messages. include, in the email, a signed message proving ownership of the address.

Herbalconfusion

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I have to back out. I had to pull funds for another project. Apologies.

arklan

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Quote from: josiasrdz on May 08, 2013, 01:45:23 PM

Add another one to my name for a amazing total of 2 Grin

yay!

josiasrdz

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Add another one to my name for a amazing total of 2 Grin

arklan

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Ok guys, payment and address time.

Please send your amount as listed in the spread sheet (2.1013 x units ordered) to john k. at his address listed in the OP: 1FFyoorSfwQC15Xv7zNZ4Lv5yZcM6WFKuF

Sooner we collect the funds, sooner we can place to order.

As for shipping info: send me an email at arklan.uthoslin AT gmail dot com including a confirmation of the payment transaction and the address you’d like your order shipped to.

Bulk orders over 10 units get USPS overnight shipping.

Note I will delete these emails after you’ve confirmed receipt of your usb miners.

arklan

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Quote from: DebitMe on May 08, 2013, 01:28:17 PM

If this has not been ordered could you put me down for 5?

added.

Quote from: tidus_13 on May 08, 2013, 01:28:40 PM

will u ship to europe? if so what is the end price with shipping.

yes i will, but the price is VERY hard to determine. there's a european group buy (i think it's still open) that would likely be better for you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gb-usb-asic-miner-closed-and-completed-195037

however i have agreed with several people to ship to other countries (UK, new zealand, china) with the caveat they are willing to pay extra shipping once i know what it'll cost.

tidus_13

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will u ship to europe? if so what is the end price with shipping.

DebitMe

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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive

If this has not been ordered could you put me down for 5?

aspeer

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Go ahead and put me in for 6 of them. I got a 6 port hub, I mean what the hell might as well fill it. Grin

Henchman24

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Quote from: arklan on May 08, 2013, 12:55:58 PM

Quote from: oaxaca on May 08, 2013, 10:47:54 AM

Speaking as a representatives for the bulk buyers (if I can presume), any order of 10 units or more should be shipped out USPS overnight. It's only 20 USD.

Arklan - Does this sound OK?

Quote from: Henchman24 on May 08, 2013, 10:24:38 AM

Quote from: fpgaminer on May 08, 2013, 02:31:45 AM

If OP wants to do a S&H discount on "bulk" orders, great, but I don't mind either way.

I'll be a bit chafed if there isn't a discount on shipping for "bulk" orders. ~$55 to ship 10 USB devices through USPS from UT to OR is exorbitant.

excellent idea.

alternatively - feel free to pm me to discuss discounting bulk orders.

Agreed. win/win

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Quote from: fpgaminer on May 08, 2013, 02:31:45 AM

If OP wants to do a S&H discount on "bulk" orders, great, but I don't mind either way.

I'll be a bit chafed if there isn't a discount on shipping for "bulk" orders. ~$55 to ship 10 USB devices through USPS from UT to OR is exorbitant.

I would be and have felt 'chafed' when I get overcharged for shipping in small items. This has happened a lot to me on e-bay. I make a point of commenting one way or the other when about how the supplier handles things.

I am a single unit customer here. If ~arklan continues to be as pro-active and reasonable as seems to be the case so far, I will add at least another 0.1 BTC. If ~arklan can see his way clear to offer a shipping discount to those who require less workload and cost due to multiple unit orders it would be fine with me.

arklan

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ok, i gotta stop replying without finishing the thread...

Quote from: Rant2112 on May 08, 2013, 10:48:00 AM

arklan - Any indication from friedcat about securing a place in line? That's the only reason to pay sooner that I can see.

not that i've hear,d no. Sad

as to your other post - yup. agreed. i'll be sending out the PM's with payment requests shortly.

Quote from: thoughtcourier on May 08, 2013, 09:21:11 AM

Quote from: arklan on May 07, 2013, 11:18:59 PM

yea, USPS will be the carrier.

i pm'd friedcat, and he has said we can pay anytime.

as to a hard stop: 48 hours from now, i will stop accepting orders. 7 days from then, payments to escrow will be expected to be completed and all money gathered.

so we'll send payment to friedcat in 9 days, basically.

i'll update the OP accordingly.

I haven't been following this closely, but to confirm, we won't be getting the sticks any quicker if we send payment quicker than this?
(In other words, waiting a week for payment is fine?)

Also, in case I forget about this, please send a PM when everything is in order.

correct.

and yea, i'm catching up on this thread then sending the pm's.

Quote from: oaxaca on May 08, 2013, 10:47:54 AM

Speaking as a representatives for the bulk buyers (if I can presume), any order of 10 units or more should be shipped out USPS overnight. It's only 20 USD.

Arklan - Does this sound OK?

Quote from: Henchman24 on May 08, 2013, 10:24:38 AM

Quote from: fpgaminer on May 08, 2013, 02:31:45 AM

If OP wants to do a S&H discount on "bulk" orders, great, but I don't mind either way.

I'll be a bit chafed if there isn't a discount on shipping for "bulk" orders. ~$55 to ship 10 USB devices through USPS from UT to OR is exorbitant.

excellent idea.

alternatively - feel free to pm me to discuss discounting bulk orders.

Klestin

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Quote from: bitcoindaddy on May 08, 2013, 12:36:20 PM

I thought you already said this was FINISHED. The longer we wait to send in the order, the longer it will take to get the devices and the more MONEY it will cost all of the existing participants.

1) The units are not yet shipping.
2) Arklan indicated he is checking into ensuring our place in line asap.
3) There's no guarantee that 100% of the users who asked for an allotment will actually pay up, so > 300 is a safety net against non-payment.

bitcoindaddy

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I thought you already said this was FINISHED. The longer we wait to send in the order, the longer it will take to get the devices and the more MONEY it will cost all of the existing participants.

lostmach

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Quote from: oaxaca on May 08, 2013, 10:47:54 AM

Speaking as a representatives for the bulk buyers (if I can presume), any order of 10 units or more should be shipped out USPS overnight. It's only 20 USD.

Arklan - Does this sound OK?

The average order size is 4, how about we classify bulk as 5 and up Cheesy

This has nothing to do with my order size...