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legendary
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January 26, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
We do have the capability to know all

the dunning kruger effect deals with the fact that the more a person knows the more they realize how little they know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

what do you think this says about someone who believes that he can know everything?

That effect can be interpreted in more than one way in this context. E.g.:
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The Dunning–Kruger effect Atheism is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals atheists suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability knowledge about a god/s much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled atheists to recognize their ineptitude.[1] Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.
Cheesy


what on earth are you talking about. atheism doesn't claim any knowledge about god. in fact its almost the exact opposite of what you just claimed that it was. it is the claim that people ought not claim to know that god exists. break down the word. a-theist, opposition to theism, opposition to belief IN god. this is not a claim that god doesn't exist.

this is the great lie about atheism.

Even the most brilliant men in the world are specialists, collectively we can know much, but individually we rely on others as do all atheists, they trust and worship the viewpoints the greats among them. Atheism does have a belief system, core values, and strong belief in how life is created and what moral fabric we should wrap ourselves in, just like any religion does. Those things would only become more developed and uniform as atheism progresses.

In time, were Atheism to take over the planet, everything about Atheism would look exactly like what we call a cult today. If you showed any sign that you were a non-non-believer you would be outcast or worse.

and in that strange atheist future world, the mystery of what give chemicals life will still be a mystery and and still be a miracle
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
We do have the capability to know all

the dunning kruger effect deals with the fact that the more a person knows the more they realize how little they know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

what do you think this says about someone who believes that he can know everything?

That effect can be interpreted in more than one way in this context. E.g.:
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The Dunning–Kruger effect Atheism is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals atheists suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability knowledge about a god/s much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled atheists to recognize their ineptitude.[1] Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.
Cheesy


what on earth are you talking about. atheism doesn't claim any knowledge about god. in fact its almost the exact opposite of what you just claimed that it was. it is the claim that people ought not claim to know that god exists. break down the word. a-theist, opposition to theism, opposition to belief IN god. this is not a claim that god doesn't exist.
hero member
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January 26, 2014, 06:26:32 PM
All I'm thinking is damn, if somebody ever get's as stoned as Dank.. They have to tell the world about being a Philosopher like them.

I hate to say it, but Dank, please leave.
cp1
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January 26, 2014, 03:08:34 PM
We are nihilists!  We believe in nothing!!
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 03:05:54 PM
is that guy serious, I think he just pretend to be stupid.
Are non believers in santa a religious cult of nonbelief?

+1
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
The point of this thread was proof through mathematics and logic that god exists.

You have not achieved this.

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If nothing is nothing, everything is everything, everything exists.



This is a completely valid and true statement. 


It's a meaningless statement, unless you can define those terms and provide context, which you have failed to do in 6 pages and counting.
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Add to the fact that we live in an infinite universe, there are infinite dimensions and you are constantly changing dimensions as you read this.  It is statistically 100% improbable that god does not exist, that an elephant does not exist in your room and that we aren't having this exact same conversation somewhere else at this very moment.  It is up to you to tune yourself to that reality and make it exist in your perception.

"Statistically 100% improbable" lol
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We bow in its aura
January 26, 2014, 02:29:27 PM
is that guy serious, I think he just pretend to be stupid.
Are non believers in santa a religious cult of nonbelief?
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
We do have the capability to know all

the dunning kruger effect deals with the fact that the more a person knows the more they realize how little they know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

what do you think this says about someone who believes that he can know everything?
legendary
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You cannot kill love
January 26, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
We do have the capability to know all because we are god, we have consciousness.  Think in terms of positive and negative.  Your soul, consciousness, awareness, knows all.  Your human part, fear, doubt, does not.  Consciously eliminate all negative thought streams and you are left with unconditional positivity, which is powerful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records

What makes you different from those billon rocks of a billion stars?  They are the same as you.  They are you.

Sutters Mill, if someone believes god does not exist, which there are plenty of people who do, they are basically saying they don't exist.  And again, if you are able to imagine god, there is no reason you cannot believe in what you imagine because you are channeling it's existence into your reality just by thought.
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god.

no this is completely false. it is the opposition to the belief that god does exist. so for example. i recognize that im just one of a billion spec of algae on one of a billion rocks on one of a billion stars in one of a billion galaxies in probably one out of a billion universes. I know that i have no idea whether god exists or not. I know my own limitations.

There are some people out there with the hubris to claim that they know with certainty one way or the other. I oppose those people because they are delusional, egotistical and narcissistic to think that they could possibly know something like that. they have no concept of how dumb they are. i may not be a genius but atleast i have some comprehension of how little i comprehend.

My opposition to this positive beleif on the part of some that "god, with certainty, does exist" makes me an atheist. and i dont want to hear all of this shit about agnosticism or w/e. just break down the word yourself. its a-theist, anti-theist, opposition to theists. not opposition to god, theists are not gods.
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 11:47:05 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



Religion exists to be made fun of by people that don't care about the cult of belief.




Yes it is true we all choose which group of priests and wizards to believe in.

Atheists choose their board certified doctors, psychiatrists, and committees of scientists that make them feel comfortable with their value system, morality, and emotional priorities.

The religious choose Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, whatever.

Personally i think Jesus would kick Hawkings ass but that is just me.

Whose side are you, exactly? Jesus is a hypocrite that would use violence against an innocent cripple?


I am on Jesus' side because he would win. But in all seriousness, my kicking ass comment was clearly mistaken as a physical confrontation, which would be silly because my 5 year old would kick Hawkings ass. What was clearly intended was that Jesus would kick Hawkings ass in any battle of pied-piper cultism.

When in doubt get behind God, he is all poweful.
legendary
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January 26, 2014, 11:43:32 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



quite a one sided argument...
non belief is not a cult and unless he isn't the God that everyone describes him as then he wouldn't be fuckin anyone up now would he?

God F'd up the Caananites, what are you even talking about.

As for atheism not being a cult you are as delusional as the kool-aid drinkers. Once you join you can NEVER leave.
did you get that from the Bible... a book about  God made by man?
Yes
donator
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Poor impulse control.
January 26, 2014, 11:30:39 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



Religion exists to be made fun of by people that don't care about the cult of belief.




Yes it is true we all choose which group of priests and wizards to believe in.

Atheists choose their board certified doctors, psychiatrists, and committees of scientists that make them feel comfortable with their value system, morality, and emotional priorities.

The religious choose Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, whatever.

Personally i think Jesus would kick Hawkings ass but that is just me.

Whose side are you, exactly? Jesus is a hypocrite that would use violence against an innocent cripple?

sr. member
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January 26, 2014, 11:20:23 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



quite a one sided argument...
non belief is not a cult and unless he isn't the God that everyone describes him as then he wouldn't be fuckin anyone up now would he?

God F'd up the Caananites, what are you even talking about.

As for atheism not being a cult you are as delusional as the kool-aid drinkers. Once you join you can NEVER leave.
did you get that from the Bible... a book about  God made by man?
legendary
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Merit: 1006
January 26, 2014, 11:15:44 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



quite a one sided argument...
non belief is not a cult and unless he isn't the God that everyone describes him as then he wouldn't be fuckin anyone up now would he?

God F'd up the Caananites, what are you even talking about.

As for atheism not being a cult you are as delusional as the kool-aid drinkers. Once you join you can NEVER leave.
legendary
Activity: 1639
Merit: 1006
January 26, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



Religion exists to be made fun of by people that don't care about the cult of belief.




Yes it is true we all choose which group of priests and wizards to believe in.

Atheists choose their board certified doctors, psychiatrists, and committees of scientists that make them feel comfortable with their value system, morality, and emotional priorities.

The religious choose Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, whatever.

Personally i think Jesus would kick Hawkings ass but that is just me.
donator
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Poor impulse control.
January 26, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



Religion exists to be made fun of by people that don't care about the cult of belief.


sr. member
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January 26, 2014, 11:08:00 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.



quite a one sided argument...
non belief is not a cult and unless he isn't the God that everyone describes him as then he wouldn't be fuckin anyone up now would he?
legendary
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Merit: 1006
January 26, 2014, 10:58:57 AM
Atheism does exist, it exists to be mad fun of by people that don't care about the cult of non-belief.

Now God on the other hand. Don't mess with God he will F u up.

sr. member
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January 26, 2014, 10:54:29 AM
I think OP meant

Atheism means you shun the idea of God but there for you know there is God but refuse to acknowledge his presence, therefore making the idea of atheism useless.
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