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full member
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January 07, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
Surely Switching To A Sha 256 algorithm would help secure the auroracoin block chain?

Actually, far from it.  There is way too much SHA gear out there to simply flip a switch and go SHA without more adoption in Iceland.  That would put us in a far worse place security wise than we are now.  All it would take is one split second of AUR being more profitable than BTC to swing some huge Chinese mega farm onto the chain, ramping up the difficulty, and then dropping off, leaving us stalled for days or even weeks at that point.  We would essentially have to invalidated blocks on the chain to reverse the effects at that point.

Remember, reliability and security are the key.  We are trying to stay away from implementing anything that would open us up to attacks or stalls.

-Fuse

Is a multi-algorithm solution more secure, more stable and more democratic?

Edit*
And with a much faster blockchain generation. At every 24 seconds with 1AUR reward/block Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
HODL for life.
January 07, 2016, 04:19:03 PM
Surely Switching To A Sha 256 algorithm would help secure the auroracoin block chain?

Actually, far from it.  There is way too much SHA gear out there to simply flip a switch and go SHA without more adoption in Iceland.  That would put us in a far worse place security wise than we are now.  All it would take is one split second of AUR being more profitable than BTC to swing some huge Chinese mega farm onto the chain, ramping up the difficulty, and then dropping off, leaving us stalled for days or even weeks at that point.  We would essentially have to invalidated blocks on the chain to reverse the effects at that point.

Remember, reliability and security are the key.  We are trying to stay away from implementing anything that would open us up to attacks or stalls.

-Fuse
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
January 07, 2016, 04:00:16 PM
the distinction is quite important i feel because the antminer s7 could offer a feasible return on investment  when you powered your rig with SOLAR panels and batteries, where as the scrypt mining technology is far from profitable on solar right now.

While profit and roi are always on a miner's mind, our focus really will be on this:

The point of mining any coin is to ensure consensus and secure the ledger.

However, we aren't ignoring the fact that scrypt miners aren't coming out as fast as they used to, and the ones that are out there now are rapidly becoming paperweights due to the cost to operate vs return.  Trust me... the team has talked about solutions to this issue in depth.

Our development focus will always be centered around the fundamentals of a secure and reliable blockchain that is easily used for day to day transactions by the Icelandic people.  The emphasis here, for me personally, is on the secure and reliable blockchain.

That being said, there will be updates coming out soon that are fully aligned with our development focus.  I won't say more than that, but I will say that we are working towards addressing people's concerns about the future of AUR blockchain technology.

-Fuse

Surely Switching To A Sha 256 algorithm would help secure the auroracoin block chain?
legendary
Activity: 1582
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HODL for life.
January 07, 2016, 11:09:04 AM
the distinction is quite important i feel because the antminer s7 could offer a feasible return on investment  when you powered your rig with SOLAR panels and batteries, where as the scrypt mining technology is far from profitable on solar right now.

While profit and roi are always on a miner's mind, our focus really will be on this:

The point of mining any coin is to ensure consensus and secure the ledger.

However, we aren't ignoring the fact that scrypt miners aren't coming out as fast as they used to, and the ones that are out there now are rapidly becoming paperweights due to the cost to operate vs return.  Trust me... the team has talked about solutions to this issue in depth.

Our development focus will always be centered around the fundamentals of a secure and reliable blockchain that is easily used for day to day transactions by the Icelandic people.  The emphasis here, for me personally, is on the secure and reliable blockchain.

That being said, there will be updates coming out soon that are fully aligned with our development focus.  I won't say more than that, but I will say that we are working towards addressing people's concerns about the future of AUR blockchain technology.

-Fuse
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
January 07, 2016, 08:35:00 AM
the distinction is quite important i feel because the antminer s7 could offer a feasible return on investment  when you powered your rig with SOLAR panels and batteries, where as the scrypt mining technology is far from profitable on solar right now.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
January 07, 2016, 04:02:00 AM
uh whats the point of mining aurora if the mining technology is not being constantly improved?

The point of mining any coin is to ensure consensus and secure the ledger.

The Auroracoin experiment isn't about technology at all in my opinion, it's more of a social experiement.

If you want to mine, then by all means do. Buy (or rent) yourself some scrypt hardware... the other miners have the same "problem(s)", so it's fair.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
January 07, 2016, 03:46:27 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/

It's not surprising that the calculator puts out some weird numbers. The miner you are referring to here is a miner that mines with sha-256 algo which is generally used for Bitcoin and a few other coins. Auroracoin on the other hand uses scrypt for mining so the Antminer wont do the job.

Is it some practical options for him so he can get AUR, outside mining BTC and buying AUR manually with it.

Unfortunately Scrypt miners have become a low demand product since the great price collapse of all coins. So few companies continue to produce them. Your best bet might be to acquire used ones. I haven't spent much time checking this out lately but there are options like Zeus Thunder, A2 Terminationr, KNC Titan

uh whats the point of mining aurora if the mining technology is not being constantly improved?

Well I didn't say it was at a complete halt. It has just slowed down as for a period all Scrypt coins (Litecoin, Auroracoin Doge, Syscoin, Viacoin, Worldcoin, Gulden and probably 100 more) more or less didn't turn a profit when mined, mostly due to the low price of Bitcoin. So a lot of people stopped mining and companies producing miners for Scrypt either stopped so or slowed down the development. However it has become profitable again with the rise of Bitcoin's price so miners have been fired up again and new miners will emerge. Innosilicon for example has announced a new miner release soon http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/11.html.

That doesn't mean that Scrypt is or will always be the best option for Auroracoin. The coin will always adapt to what is best at each time based on its circumstances.
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
January 07, 2016, 02:28:29 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/

It's not surprising that the calculator puts out some weird numbers. The miner you are referring to here is a miner that mines with sha-256 algo which is generally used for Bitcoin and a few other coins. Auroracoin on the other hand uses scrypt for mining so the Antminer wont do the job.

Is it some practical options for him so he can get AUR, outside mining BTC and buying AUR manually with it.

Unfortunately Scrypt miners have become a low demand product since the great price collapse of all coins. So few companies continue to produce them. Your best bet might be to acquire used ones. I haven't spent much time checking this out lately but there are options like Zeus Thunder, A2 Terminationr, KNC Titan

uh whats the point of mining aurora if the mining technology is not being constantly improved?
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
January 07, 2016, 01:46:32 AM
I don't think it's because he's trying to sell at 9500 either, it does seem like overkill.

If it stays it's real.

it's gone. the 10k ask still there.

sorry to the productive guys for the offtopic speculation talk. I know we have a thread for it ([AUR] Auroracoin market observer, but noone reads there so noone posts there so noone reads there...
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
January 06, 2016, 06:32:04 PM
16 BTC buy wall @ 9295 sat on bittrex.

Real or fake?

WOW!

hmm...



could be trying to scare people into buying that new ask at 9500. Seems a bit overkill for that measly "not even 1 BTC", though.

EDIT: So... if any of you big hodler wants out... slippage has never been lower Wink

EDIT2: shit, there goes my plan to buy more at 6000

I don't think it's because he's trying to sell at 9500 either, it does seem like overkill.

If it stays it's real.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
January 06, 2016, 03:47:25 PM
16 BTC buy wall @ 9295 sat on bittrex.

Real or fake?

WOW!

hmm...



could be trying to scare people into buying that new ask at 9500. Seems a bit overkill for that measly "not even 1 BTC", though.

EDIT: So... if any of you big hodler wants out... slippage has never been lower Wink

EDIT2: shit, there goes my plan to buy more at 6000
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
January 06, 2016, 03:10:42 PM
16 BTC buy wall @ 9295 sat on bittrex.

Real or fake?
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
January 06, 2016, 11:08:50 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/

It's not surprising that the calculator puts out some weird numbers. The miner you are referring to here is a miner that mines with sha-256 algo which is generally used for Bitcoin and a few other coins. Auroracoin on the other hand uses scrypt for mining so the Antminer wont do the job.

Is it some practical options for him so he can get AUR, outside mining BTC and buying AUR manually with it.

Unfortunately Scrypt miners have become a low demand product since the great price collapse of all coins. So few companies continue to produce them. Your best bet might be to acquire used ones. I haven't spent much time checking this out lately but there are options like Zeus Thunder, A2 Terminationr, KNC Titan
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 500
January 06, 2016, 10:27:29 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/

It's not surprising that the calculator puts out some weird numbers. The miner you are referring to here is a miner that mines with sha-256 algo which is generally used for Bitcoin and a few other coins. Auroracoin on the other hand uses scrypt for mining so the Antminer wont do the job.

Is it some practical options for him so he can get AUR, outside mining BTC and buying AUR manually with it.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
January 06, 2016, 06:42:35 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/

It's not surprising that the calculator puts out some weird numbers. The miner you are referring to here is a miner that mines with sha-256 algo which is generally used for Bitcoin and a few other coins. Auroracoin on the other hand uses scrypt for mining so the Antminer wont do the job.
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
January 06, 2016, 03:54:35 AM
what profitability will you get when you mine auroracoin with the antminer s7 4.78 th/s  https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0 ?

dafts auroracoin profit calculator puts out some weird numbers. http://daft.cc/auroracoin/
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 500
January 02, 2016, 09:07:28 AM
Well, we will have soon a project management website - so it will be easy to help people jumping in any part of auroracoin project.

Meanwhile, youy may share your list with me - I would contact these people right away.

My skype is soltantgris.
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
January 02, 2016, 08:45:13 AM
hey peeps just got back from learning man 2015, what an experience, people are getting closer to the truth about money and aurora is helping that process.

I've got a mailing list of people who want to be involved in the project so does any one have any suggestions about how to maximize the benefit of the mailing list?
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
January 01, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
First day of 2016.

The world is going nuts. WW3 seems more real then ever. Each day bring new atrocity.  

What I wish for 2016 ?   I wish that an army of people will wake up and actively work to build a better world. In few days, my wife and I will welcome our third child. It's a great event, but it come with tremendous responsabilities. I don't want my childrens to be raised in an insane world. I want them to be peaceful, and free to be who they want to be.  

I know many people knowing that the world is not in good shape, but still doing nothing to change this. For my part, I know that I could do way more for my familly, friends, country, earth. ''I do my best' is not true. It's not my best. It's just a fraction of what I would be able to do. And today more than ever I realize how important it is to take responsability for this world - so my kids can be happy and free from suppression.

What can I do ?

Lately, I spent countless hours working on auroracoin promotion, channel developement, public network. Many things are new to me, my learning curve is not good enought to me, my bad english is a problem, but still I feel some pride to being part of a project that, if succesful, may change a lot things in this world. This is probably the best attempt at showing the power of a cryptocurency used widely. If we ''win'', there will be a tons of world attention - and may well show the path for more and more country - so freeing them a bit from financial slavery.  

I am not a lunatic dreamer. Crypto won't stop wars or erase national depts / but it will give back people some control over currency, and this alone is tremendous step toward freedom. We can't fight every battle, but I feel that if enought people work togetter in such a great battle - a win is possible, and probable.

So for 2016, I wish you guys choose your battle carefully, and then make a difference out there, for the best of us all. We deserve a better world - but this won't come out of thin air. This will happen with actual dedicated work, efforts and some sacrifice.

Auroracoin team is actually 10 ''official'' dedicated people wanting to be difference makers. Each of us. Join the battle with us. Be part of the greatest project in crypto - and help do your part to improve this world. And then be proud of yourself.

For my part, I'll try to realy ''do my best'' - find ways to improve myself, my life, and this project that i believe in so much.

Yan
  

Well said sir.



Happy new year to you also.
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 500
January 01, 2016, 12:17:39 PM
First day of 2016.

The world is going nuts. WW3 seems more real then ever. Each day bring new atrocity.  

What I wish for 2016 ?   I wish that an army of people will wake up and actively work to build a better world. In few days, my wife and I will welcome our third child. It's a great event, but it come with tremendous responsabilities. I don't want my childrens to be raised in an insane world. I want them to be peaceful, and free to be who they want to be.  

Many people are aware that the world is not in good shape, but still do nothing to change it. For my part, I know that I could do way more for my familly, friends, country, earth.  Words like ''I do my best'' are not true. It's not my best. It's just a fraction of what I would be able to do. And today more than ever I realize how important it is to take responsability for this world - so my kids can be happy and free from suppression.

What can I do ?

Lately, I spent countless hours working on auroracoin promotion, channels developement, public network, etc. Many things are new to me, my learning curve is never good enought for me, my bad english is a problem, but still I feel some pride in being part of a project that, if succesful, may change a lot things in this world.  Any action change the world a little bit, but I consider this is probably the best attempt at showing the power of a cryptocurency used widely by a nation. If we ''win'', there will be tons of world attention - Auroracoin will be one more time under spotlights, and may well show the path for more and more countries - so freeing them a bit from this general financial slavery.  

I am not a lunatic dreamer. Crypto won't stop wars or erase national depts / but it will give back people some control over currency, and THIS alone is tremendous step toward freedom. No one can't fight every battle, not every battle is worth fighting, but I feel that if enought people work togetter in such a great battle - a win is possible, and probable.

So for 2016, I wish you guys choose your battle carefully, and then make a difference out there, for the best of us all. We deserve a better world - but this won't come out of thin air. This will happen with actual dedicated work, efforts and some sacrifice.

Auroracoin team is actually 10 ''official'' dedicated peoples wanting to be difference makers. Each of us. Join the battle with us. Be part of the greatest project in crypto - and help do your part to improve this sick world. And then, be proud of yourself.

For my part, I'll try to realy ''do my best'' - find ways to improve myself, my life, and this project that i believe in so much.

Yan
  
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