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hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
November 22, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
Well whatever is going on they didn't seem to do the most cursory of due diligence, for if they did they would have quickly found out that bank wire transfer is the least likely payment method to be used by BTC miners...DUH!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 22, 2016, 03:40:33 PM
I'm confused. What is with this "The shop is new" talk? Does this have something to do with Canaan's acquisition a few months ago? The company has been on and off the asic production scene for a long time; Avalon 6's were not difficult to get a hold of. So what's going on?

I am still efforting to get payment other then bank.  I guess this is all about the new ownership.
Canaan Creative did not accept the deal, they were not bought by other company.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
November 22, 2016, 03:23:16 PM
I'm confused. What is with this "The shop is new" talk? Does this have something to do with Canaan's acquisition a few months ago? The company has been on and off the asic production scene for a long time; Avalon 6's were not difficult to get a hold of. So what's going on?

I am still efforting to get payment other then bank.  I guess this is all about the new ownership.
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 16
November 22, 2016, 01:55:13 PM
I'm confused. What is with this "The shop is new" talk? Does this have something to do with Canaan's acquisition a few months ago? The company has been on and off the asic production scene for a long time; Avalon 6's were not difficult to get a hold of. So what's going on?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
November 21, 2016, 06:57:57 PM
No wonder this miner's not having good sales- one payment option that doesn't work for most people and a rushed 16nm chip with efficiency that barely beats the S7's. Not sure what Canaan is doing right now, they're digging themselves into a hole. Not like many people were going to buy this miner if they accepted BTC and other methods anyways. They're losing money either way, I would've preferred a better thought out miner and payment plan than this mess.

Well at least amazon and newegg send me gpus fast.  I get 1 2 and 3 year warranties on the gear and  I have a long return policy.

Not that I do this but I could order parts for an  entire rig and return it to amazon in late Jan  say it failed. And get a refund.

This is driving alt coins big time and hurting btc it has   been happening since March about 7 months.

I have had more luck with alts then btc this year.
legendary
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Merit: 1130
Bitcoin FTW!
November 21, 2016, 05:29:00 PM
No wonder this miner's not having good sales- one payment option that doesn't work for most people and a rushed 16nm chip with efficiency that barely beats the S7's. Not sure what Canaan is doing right now, they're digging themselves into a hole. Not like many people were going to buy this miner if they accepted BTC and other methods anyways. They're losing money either way, I would've preferred a better thought out miner and payment plan than this mess.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 21, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Has anyone been able to pay for the A721 with anything other than bank transfer?
I guess not. Phil didn't get a green light for his paypal proposal yet and btc payment has been a no go.
I simply can not understand why Canaan is this way stabbing their own knee.

I will get an answer on Monday about paypal.

My request for any alternate payment method was politely denied.

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right now our shop is new and we are only offering bank transfer for payment right now until we get the basics down.

As was mine
Sad as  all this just pushes me to GPU mining of Alts.
legendary
Activity: 1736
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
November 21, 2016, 10:03:36 AM
Has anyone been able to pay for the A721 with anything other than bank transfer?
I guess not. Phil didn't get a green light for his paypal proposal yet and btc payment has been a no go.
I simply can not understand why Canaan is this way stabbing their own knee.

I will get an answer on Monday about paypal.

My request for any alternate payment method was politely denied.

Code:
right now our shop is new and we are only offering bank transfer for payment right now until we get the basics down.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
November 20, 2016, 01:17:30 PM
Has anyone been able to pay for the A721 with anything other than bank transfer?
I guess not. Phil didn't get a green light for his paypal proposal yet and btc payment has been a no go.
I simply can not understand why Canaan is this way stabbing their own knee.

I will get an answer on Monday about paypal.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
November 20, 2016, 01:12:09 PM
They will sell only to big company or a person with a lot of money. They will probably lose a lot of sell. Strange call!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 19, 2016, 01:19:35 PM
Has anyone been able to pay for the A721 with anything other than bank transfer?
I guess not. Phil didn't get a green light for his paypal proposal yet and btc payment has been a no go.
I simply can not understand why Canaan is this way stabbing their own knee.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
November 19, 2016, 11:16:07 AM
Has anyone been able to pay for the A721 with anything other than bank transfer?
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 18, 2016, 01:12:49 PM
Yes one of the grounds is for the GPU's Sense connector to tell that "hey I'am a connected cable".
And as I said in most cases there is 3x +12V pins.

Official standard though indeed declares that one pin as an empty connection.
I haven't personally seen this in any PSUs but it is possible to find this situation.

My picture is for most cases, it is not the standard.

Here is a link for the pinout according to the standard for those who are interested: http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ac/ac82eb1d_pinout.png
The issue that I was taking with your 6-pin depiction was the listing of 3x COM.
They basicly are 3x COM pins.
The sense in the GPU is grounded and when that circuit so closes, the GPU knows that I got a cable.

You are right though that if we are totally official we should call it sense.
hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 501
November 18, 2016, 01:03:33 PM
Yes one of the grounds is for the GPU's Sense connector to tell that "hey I'am a connected cable".
And as I said in most cases there is 3x +12V pins.

Official standard though indeed declares that one pin as an empty connection.
I haven't personally seen this in any PSUs but it is possible to find this situation.

My picture is for most cases, it is not the standard.

Here is a link for the pinout according to the standard for those who are interested: http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ac/ac82eb1d_pinout.png
The issue that I was taking with your 6-pin depiction was the listing of 3x COM.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 18, 2016, 08:53:07 AM
Interesting, I've never seen a PCI-E 6-pin connector that only used 2 wires though.
On the other hand, I stick with high quality PS that don't scrimp....

 9-)

I think you misunderstand. The 6-pin connector only has two +12V lines according to the standard.
Yeah, the official standard declares one plus pin as "no connection", but most PSUs provide +12 volts at this pin.
So in most cases there is 3x +12V and 3x COM pins.

This is the case for most PSUs:


The official standard declares the pin number 2 as a "no connection".
Technically, it is usually 2x +12V, 2x Ground, 1x Sense, and the last one is either +12V or empty.

Yes one of the grounds is for the GPU's Sense connector to tell that "hey I'am a connected cable".
And as I said in most cases there is 3x +12V pins.

Official standard though indeed declares that one pin as an empty connection.
I haven't personally seen this in any PSUs but it is possible to find this situation.

My picture is for most cases, it is not the standard.

Here is a link for the pinout according to the standard for those who are interested: http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ac/ac82eb1d_pinout.png
hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 501
November 18, 2016, 01:58:18 AM
Interesting, I've never seen a PCI-E 6-pin connector that only used 2 wires though.
On the other hand, I stick with high quality PS that don't scrimp....

 9-)

I think you misunderstand. The 6-pin connector only has two +12V lines according to the standard.
Yeah, the official standard declares one plus pin as "no connection", but most PSUs provide +12 volts at this pin.
So in most cases there is 3x +12V and 3x COM pins.

This is the case for most PSUs:


The official standard declares the pin number 2 as a "no connection".
Technically, it is usually 2x +12V, 2x Ground, 1x Sense, and the last one is either +12V or empty.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 18, 2016, 01:01:11 AM
Interesting, I've never seen a PCI-E 6-pin connector that only used 2 wires though.
On the other hand, I stick with high quality PS that don't scrimp....

 9-)

I think you misunderstand. The 6-pin connector only has two +12V lines according to the standard.
Yeah, the official standard declares one plus pin as "no connection", but most PSUs provide +12 volts at this pin.
So in most cases there is 3x +12V and 3x COM pins.

This is the case for most PSUs:


The official standard declares the pin number 2 as a "no connection".
hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 501
November 17, 2016, 07:06:30 PM
Interesting, I've never seen a PCI-E 6-pin connector that only used 2 wires though.
On the other hand, I stick with high quality PS that don't scrimp....

 9-)

I think you misunderstand. The 6-pin connector only has two +12V lines according to the standard.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
November 17, 2016, 06:42:34 PM
Interesting, I've never seen a PCI-E 6-pin connector that only used 2 wires though.
On the other hand, I stick with high quality PS that don't scrimp....

 9-)
legendary
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Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
November 17, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
PCIe 6-pin spec only requires two wires for power; 8-pin requires all 3. If you're only using 18AWG wire (which most consumer PSUs do), 150W is a practical upperbound for a 3-hots 6-pin.
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