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hero member
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October 07, 2013, 06:42:28 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..

As long as the units are on hand that's not too bad. ButterFly 60GH units that people have on hand generally go bout 2k to 2.5k or about 14BTC here in Toronto, ON, Canada. If they aren't on hand units and you have to wait 8 months to a year to receive them then yes your right! Smiley

legendary
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October 07, 2013, 06:30:01 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..

I signed up.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
October 07, 2013, 05:43:16 AM
Okay this is strange. I keep getting error messages from the site after I post a message, then I wait a bit and hit post and it tells me the post is already here, so I come back to the end of this thread and my message is not here. LOL

I am wondering if anyone has noticed and or figured out what the batch 2 avalon's run cooler than the batch 1's?

Thanks
full member
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October 07, 2013, 04:20:12 AM
Question for the more experienced people on here than me Smiley

I've had an Avalon Batch #2 running for about three months, has been hashing nicely at 344 with a few reboots here and there. I updated to the latest firmware end of the last week, and I have noticed that this morning my hash rate has dropped by about 15 GH/s (Was previously 80 - 82 GH/s).

Miners 22 - 24 are reporting far lower matched work than the others, with miner 24 very low. Is this a sign that the chips are on their way out and/or need re-thermal pasting or something else?

Thanks!


Make sure your ribbon cables are tight to that module and make sure the backplane is snug into the hash boards.

Check the power cable for that module also, inspect the connectors on both ends for any evidence of heating due to poor connections.

If the cables are ok inspect the module for burnt capacitors in the defective miner sections.

If you have a meter you can compare the C1 voltage readings between miner sections.

C1 - 680uf - is also the capacitor that has been failing on some of the units.
legendary
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October 07, 2013, 04:15:22 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..

I think that the DIY Red Avalon project auction went as high as 19 BTC for 1 unit.

But then again that was before KNC even had a chip Smiley

Now that KnCMiner has proven chips, the pricing game has changed and future difficulty rise will make aggressive pricing a strong selling point.
sr. member
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October 07, 2013, 03:59:14 AM
Anyone more than me that took the hassle of signing up at tradehill?
avalon, what a joke, b3 4 90GH units for 16btc, and avalon mini 2 board (oc'd to 375mhz) 60GH unit 9btc.
Luckily , they have hundreds of units. so far i can only see one mini that has the 9btc bid.
If they put up some reasonable prices ok..
member
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October 06, 2013, 11:57:01 PM
Question for the more experienced people on here than me Smiley

I've had an Avalon Batch #2 running for about three months, has been hashing nicely at 344 with a few reboots here and there. I updated to the latest firmware end of the last week, and I have noticed that this morning my hash rate has dropped by about 15 GH/s (Was previously 80 - 82 GH/s).

Miners 22 - 24 are reporting far lower matched work than the others, with miner 24 very low. Is this a sign that the chips are on their way out and/or need re-thermal pasting or something else?

Thanks!



Make sure your ribbon cables are tight to that module and make sure the backplane is snug into the hash boards.
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 05:49:12 PM
Anyone else experiencing huge lags accessing unit via browser? I switched the Ethernet cable around and I'm sure my router works fine.

I'm r38031.

Code:
PING 192.168.0.100 (192.168.0.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=1 ttl=63 time=9.14 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=2.09 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=3 ttl=63 time=2.66 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=4 ttl=63 time=4.32 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=5 ttl=63 time=2.60 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=6 ttl=63 time=2.71 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=7 ttl=63 time=3.92 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=8 ttl=63 time=2.66 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=9 ttl=63 time=2.13 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=10 ttl=63 time=2.69 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=11 ttl=63 time=2.72 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=12 ttl=63 time=2.61 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=13 ttl=63 time=24.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=14 ttl=63 time=2.68 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=15 ttl=63 time=2.49 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=16 ttl=63 time=2.37 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=17 ttl=63 time=2.72 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=18 ttl=63 time=2.72 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=19 ttl=63 time=6.63 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=20 ttl=63 time=2.72 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.100: icmp_req=21 ttl=63 time=4.69 ms
newbie
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October 02, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
Question for the more experienced people on here than me Smiley

I've had an Avalon Batch #2 running for about three months, has been hashing nicely at 344 with a few reboots here and there. I updated to the latest firmware end of the last week, and I have noticed that this morning my hash rate has dropped by about 15 GH/s (Was previously 80 - 82 GH/s).

Miners 22 - 24 are reporting far lower matched work than the others, with miner 24 very low. Is this a sign that the chips are on their way out and/or need re-thermal pasting or something else?

Thanks!

http://s22.postimg.org/vt43w8gkh/Avalon.png
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:21:27 AM
this looks sweet!!

is there any limit to how much onfo can be input into the more options field?

what is the current 'best' options for B2 rigs - i have mine set as;

 --avalon-fan 95 --avalon-options 115200:24:10:36:350

 20130821 f/w.

I currently have 6 pools set so appears to be plenty of room in the 'more options' field.

For batch 2 --avalon-auto is all you need using the latest firmware, I have the fan set in mine (and temps as it's a batch#3) but ckolivas recommends leaving it out and letting his firmware sort it.
full member
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October 01, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
The magic smoke left the 680 uF Tantalum capacitor C1 on the hashunit (10 Avalon chip submodule)

I cannot find a Bill of Material.
Does anyone have a MFR part number, or a Mouser number?


You can find the bom & prints here - https://github.com/BitSyncom/avalon-ref
legendary
Activity: 1246
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October 01, 2013, 12:47:17 PM
The magic smoke left the 680 uF Tantalum capacitor C1 on the hashunit (10 Avalon chip submodule)

I cannot find a Bill of Material.
Does anyone have a MFR part number, or a Mouser number?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
October 01, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
I wondering what settings I should use on my B1 and B2 avalon or if --avalon-auto is the best setting for both?

Both are using the kolivas 21/08 firmware.

Thanks,

--real-quiet --avalon-auto --avalon-temp 50 --avalon-cutoff 70
hero member
Activity: 630
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October 01, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
I wondering what settings I should use on my B1 and B2 avalon or if --avalon-auto is the best setting for both?

Both are using the kolivas 21/08 firmware.

Thanks,
sr. member
Activity: 462
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October 01, 2013, 09:09:54 AM
Nice, you should notice better stability also.

Is your unit a batch 2 (previous firmware - 20130723)?

If so you need to remove --avalon-temp 50 --avalon-cutoff 70, these 20 degree higher settings are for b3s.

It should default to the lower b2 settings.

it s a B3 - 4 modules with previous firmware - 20130723

temp is 70 and 90 for this model

now

full member
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October 01, 2013, 08:17:25 AM
Nice, you should notice better stability also.

Is your unit a batch 2 (previous firmware - 20130723)?

If so you need to remove --avalon-temp 50 --avalon-cutoff 70, these 20 degree higher settings are for b3s.

It should default to the lower b2 settings.
sr. member
Activity: 462
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October 01, 2013, 03:55:55 AM
i m sure to understand but i can read

Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

good paste or not ?

Correct, as5 is not conductive, the only question I have regarding as5 is that it is capacitive unlike arctic silvers mx2 or mx4.
I don't know if that would be an issue in this application so I chose mx4 over the as5.

thermal paste change and there needed.

the thermal paste used by avalon Were dry. would no longer have anything.

Temp 2 before 69 or 70 °
Temp 2 after 58 to 62 °

Temp 3 before 60 or 62 °
Temp 3 after 50 to 52 °

the ventilos not running any more. 2500 instead of 3000rpm

think has tighten the screws that hold the radiators. on mine there was a lot of screws loosen and poor contact and poor heat disipation.

after having tighten the plate is hot

Conclusion: if you want your living avalon still a lot of time,

change the thermal paste.

for 4 modules I have used 60gr of artic silver 5. there was just enough.

I put 6 hours to do everything. disassembly and reassembly test

Now it runs at 110 instead of 108 gh -  less error HW

that happiness

and all this with Firmware Version => 20130723

next step update Firmware

before



after



Did you take any pictures as you did the paste replacement?

no but you can found some picture here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2687268

and

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3216051

Nice results with the arctic silver 5!   Cool

Are you running --avalon-auto or just set @ 350MHz ?

You should also notice an improvement with the firmware upgrade, highly recommended.

just do firmware upgrade with kolivas 21/08

options  --real-quiet --avalon-auto --avalon-temp 70 --avalon-cutoff 90

now less HW errors
legendary
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September 30, 2013, 06:11:52 AM


Can someone tell me how to add more than the standard 3 pools as in this picture, my first two are btcguild which is currently having problems and the 3rd is 50btc which frequently suffers from problems so would like some more for safety.

I tried adding an extra -o host:port -u x -p x in the more options field but cgminer api said connection refused.

If it means manually editing the conf file, I can SSH into the box but have no knowledge to get me beyond that point.

EDIT

To update my own post in case anyone else wants to do this I just got it working

-o host:port -O user:pass

Lots of pools set now Smiley

sr. member
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September 30, 2013, 04:04:18 AM
So you had 2 PSUs hooked up at the same time ?
I always wondered if that would work.
Can you post a photo of the damage ?

Two PSU's shouldn't be an issue. I think quite a few people who've OC'd their box are using two, me included.


Two power supplies can be bad mojo if you ever happen to have one powered on and not the other.  Sometimes a power supply in the off state will short +12V to GND.  If this happens while the other is trying to keep things at 12V, bad things will obviously happen.
can someone else also confirm this? adding another 600w psu is clearly cheaper than replacing with one 1000w+..

i wonder why they didnt make the avalons on proliant hot swap psu.. http://m.ebay.com/itm/300976711130 35 euro and 1000w also hot swap..

Could you not perhaps wire both PSU's to the same switch.

I used to run a shitload of hard drives in RAID on a cheap computer.  Think 15-slot plywood drive cage with a dedicated power supply, 120mm fans blowing through the drive slots, and 36 inch IDE cables in a unholy mess to tie back to the main computer.

I built a box with a relay to trigger the power_on signal to the slave power supply when the master power supply was on.  Radio Shack should have a suitable relay, either 5v or 12v DC trigger, negligible output current.  Cut an ATX extension cable to connect to the slave supply, and cut any 4-pin molex accessory (splitter, fan power, SATA converter, etc) for the input.  Bond the power supply cases together, either by rigidly mounting them in a shared metal frame, or by using a copper wire (and an appropriate crimp-on spade terminal if you aren't a savage).

For connecting the relay, you have several options.  Bonus points if you etch and drill a PCB.  This is an easy build, you can draw if freehand with a sharpie and the Radio Shack PCB kit.  Second best choice is to use a socketed relay.  Automotive relays are commonly available with pigtail sockets, from there it is just a few wire nuts to get everything together.  Third is QC connectors.  Forth is soldering directly to the relay.

Heh, if this is the case, i rather invest in a €100 psu and replace the one in it.
So it is kind of confirmed, if a certain psu model shorts 12v+ground, it might kill the entire unit?
Even disabling this shorting functionality might be too much for me and would make me just buy new psu..
legendary
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Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
September 29, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
64 bytes from 192.168.0.211: icmp_seq=79 ttl=64 time=33.427 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.0.211: icmp_seq=81 ttl=64 time=32.599 ms (DUP!)
Are there two devices on your network with the same .0.211 ip address ?
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13254/what-could-dup-mean-when-using-ping
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