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legendary
Activity: 3346
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Hey Patrike,

can you please check and integrate the new SgMiner for ZCoin? https://github.com/zcoinofficial/sgminer/releases

Tried it by myself with a user defined miner. Even with the same settings as i wrote in the .bat file, it runs extremely slow trough AM (getting only 10% hashrate as in the .bat).

Here is the .bat which is fully working, maybe it helps you a little bit:
sgminer.exe --kernel mtp_vega  -o stratum+tcp://xzc.2miners.com:8080 -u blabla -p x --intensity 18 --text-only --device 0,1,2
Did you use the Diagnostics feature in Awesome Miner to compare the command line, to ensure that it was identical, including the "--intensity 18" parameter that looks quite important here? You can share the exact command line via PM if needed.

Clones of existing mining software with support for a single algorithm has typically lower priority for being included in Awesome Miner, as they typically can be added manually like you did.

Yes, it is identical. The problem is AM always use a config-file. And whenever a config-file is loaded (seems no matter whats inside, maybe still buggy or whatever), the hashrate is increadible low. Without the config-file, so just with the command-line, its perfect. Is there any way to tell AM not using a config-file, but with full compatibility mode?
Thanks for the details.

In this case I think the best way is to use the Device Profile concept (see the Options dialog, Device Profile section). You can define a profile with Intensity set to 18 for example. In your miner (or pool) you can then select this device profile. The result should be that the Intensity parameter is part of the configuration file.
jr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 5
Can anyone help with the apparent really poor performance I am seeing, as the screenshot shows?

Dell is a dual GPU system with nVidia 1060Ti and 1050, Garage has a single 1060Ti.

I'm running 6.1.10 of Awesome Miner, switching interval is set to 3 mins with a 15% switch threshold.

I have Enable Managed Profit Switching ticked with providers as Nicehash, Mining Pool Hub, AHashPool and Blazepool.



is it 1060 Ti a typo?

else, 1060 + 1050 does about 40MH/s on Lyra2v2 is about right, I personally find CryptoDredge slightly faster, but you have to use the older version since 16.1 or above removes support for Lyra2v2 as it is now an ASIC dominated algo (means you shouldn't really be mining Lyra2v2 with GPUs at all)
jr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 5
theres a solo mining option on zergpool now can we get an option to specify m=solo in password field for it?

Method 1:
Options -> Online Services -> Select 1 or multiple online services you want to modify and select Edit / Bulk Edit button accordingly

-> Password (optional) field....put m=solo

Method 2:
you are also mining specific coin and want to specify that in Options -> Pools instead

Edit Pool Properties -> Worker Password field:
Code:
mc=xxx,d=yyy,m=solo for example
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
Can anyone help with the apparent really poor performance I am seeing, as the screenshot shows?

Dell is a dual GPU system with nVidia 1060Ti and 1050, Garage has a single 1060Ti.

I'm running 6.1.10 of Awesome Miner, switching interval is set to 3 mins with a 15% switch threshold.

I have Enable Managed Profit Switching ticked with providers as Nicehash, Mining Pool Hub, AHashPool and Blazepool.

https://i.imgur.com/Ic6x1Fe.png
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
theres a solo mining option on zergpool now can we get an option to specify m=solo in password field for it?
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2
I want to comment on a ruling that has already happened several times. I will give two examples.

I changed the exponential reward factor of ZERO equihash 192,7 and I put 5. The coin disappeared from my list of COINS. It is very easy to search, you are pressing Z and you are going through the different currencies, but this has disappeared from my list of coins.


Right now I just modified VEIL X16RT and I only added the price in SAtochis, since it uses a very rare exchange. I only added the price nothing more. And the currency has also disappeared from the COINS tab. I have searched several times but it is nowhere.

Although I put the price on satochis, and the coin disappeared, when I flipped the coin, it still gives me 0 of profit, because if I throw it to mine, even if I do not find it in coins.

I do not understand this problem, I just tell you what happens, to see if you can reproduce it.

I do not have selected exchanges neither in options nor in the options of the currency. I find this error very strange.
Sometimes coins are added or removed in the coin lists from the statistics providers. This can be for many reasons and often only temporary.

Awesome Miner has a setting to keep coins even if they no longer are included by the providers. Please see how "Keep coins no longer listed by provider" is configured in the Options dialog, Statistics Providers.
I know that reading them can cause coins to be lost for a few minutes. I talk to you about days, XGAC disappeared days ago. I have the option activated so that the coins that appear are not deleted. And I have not ignored them in options> coins.

All this I know, it's very basic. In other currencies I have changed the price and they have not disappeared, but these coins do not exist in my AW, they left.

I do not see ZERO, XGAC and the other of X16rt, some for changing the Exchange and others for changing the exponential value, or for the price. And it has only happened to me in these, as I have said in others it has not happened to me. I know this is very strange, I know, but I have to say it in case someone else happens the same.
member
Activity: 418
Merit: 21
Hey Patrike,

can you please check and integrate the new SgMiner for ZCoin? https://github.com/zcoinofficial/sgminer/releases

Tried it by myself with a user defined miner. Even with the same settings as i wrote in the .bat file, it runs extremely slow trough AM (getting only 10% hashrate as in the .bat).

Here is the .bat which is fully working, maybe it helps you a little bit:
sgminer.exe --kernel mtp_vega  -o stratum+tcp://xzc.2miners.com:8080 -u blabla -p x --intensity 18 --text-only --device 0,1,2
Did you use the Diagnostics feature in Awesome Miner to compare the command line, to ensure that it was identical, including the "--intensity 18" parameter that looks quite important here? You can share the exact command line via PM if needed.

Clones of existing mining software with support for a single algorithm has typically lower priority for being included in Awesome Miner, as they typically can be added manually like you did.

Yes, it is identical. The problem is AM always use a config-file. And whenever a config-file is loaded (seems no matter whats inside, maybe still buggy or whatever), the hashrate is increadible low. Without the config-file, so just with the command-line, its perfect. Is there any way to tell AM not using a config-file, but with full compatibility mode?
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hi

PLS add nicehashe new algo GrinCuckaroo29 GrinCuckatoo31 Lyra2REv3

https://www.nicehash.com/algorithm

Thanks
Yes, this will be added. Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hi, im want to try linux agent for awesomeminer, but having issues with it. Maybe anyone know how to solve it ?
Windows
Initialize diagnostics (2)
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner Remote Agent version: 6.1.10
OS: Unix 4.15.0.45
Microsoft VC++ 2013 runtime installed: No
Microsoft VC++ 2015 runtime installed: No
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
Engine Type: BMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: BMiner, IsProfitMiner: False)
====================================================================================================
/home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/bminer  -uri cuckaroo29://toha%40gmail.com:[email protected]:3416 -watchdog=false -api=0.0.0.0:4028
====================================================================================================
Failed to start miner process: No such file or directory
Failed to start miner in Diagnostics mode
Diagnostics completed
Thanks for your question.

Is it only Bminer that doesn't start or are no mining software starting? If you go to the folder below, do you see any bminer files or folders?
/home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Patrike,

Can you explain how the exponential factor works for coins?   How do you know what the factor for any particular coin should be?
When you calculate the number of coins per day for a given hashrate, there are many parameters taken into consideration like difficulty, block reward and also this exponential factor. It's simply a number that is unique for each coin, although the value is 32 for most algorithms and the value 0 is also common.

I don't know the number for each coin, but for all popular algorithms I enter predefined values in Awesome Miner based on my findings when I try the calculations on WhatToMine, CoinCalculators and so on.

If you add a new coin in Awesome Miner, the default value will be 32. In case the calculations are wrong due to another exp. factor is required - you can play around with this factor until the calculations show up correctly.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hi Patrike,

small suggestion. If you hover your mouse at the bottom of AM over the little coin symbols, would be nice if you can also show the exchange which provides that price right now. Sometimes you see a nice price, but you don't know which exchange got that price  Huh
Good point! Maybe a right click menu where you can go to the coin on the Coins tab? I'm also planning to show the exchange name on the Coins tab when running it in compact list mode.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
New Cryptodredge 0.16.2

https://github.com/technobyl/CryptoDredge/releases/tag/v0.16.2

New T-Rex too

And gminer 1.28
Thanks. There are a number of mining software updates in the pipeline and the plan is to have a new Awesome Miner release tomorrow including:
  - CcMiner 2.3.1
  - Gminer 1.28
  - CryptoDredge 0.16.2
  - TeamRedMiner 0.3.10
  - T-Rex 0.9.2
  - TT-miner 2.1.8
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hey Patrike,

can you please check and integrate the new SgMiner for ZCoin? https://github.com/zcoinofficial/sgminer/releases

Tried it by myself with a user defined miner. Even with the same settings as i wrote in the .bat file, it runs extremely slow trough AM (getting only 10% hashrate as in the .bat).

Here is the .bat which is fully working, maybe it helps you a little bit:
sgminer.exe --kernel mtp_vega  -o stratum+tcp://xzc.2miners.com:8080 -u blabla -p x --intensity 18 --text-only --device 0,1,2
Did you use the Diagnostics feature in Awesome Miner to compare the command line, to ensure that it was identical, including the "--intensity 18" parameter that looks quite important here? You can share the exact command line via PM if needed.

Clones of existing mining software with support for a single algorithm has typically lower priority for being included in Awesome Miner, as they typically can be added manually like you did.
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
Hi

PLS add nicehashe new algo GrinCuckaroo29 GrinCuckatoo31 Lyra2REv3

https://www.nicehash.com/algorithm

Thanks
copper member
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Hi, im want to try linux agent for awesomeminer, but having issues with it. Maybe anyone know how to solve it ?
Windows
Initialize diagnostics (2)
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner Remote Agent version: 6.1.10
OS: Unix 4.15.0.45
Microsoft VC++ 2013 runtime installed: No
Microsoft VC++ 2015 runtime installed: No
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
Engine Type: BMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: BMiner, IsProfitMiner: False)
====================================================================================================
/home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/bminer  -uri cuckaroo29://toha%40gmail.com:[email protected]:3416 -watchdog=false -api=0.0.0.0:4028
====================================================================================================
Failed to start miner process: No such file or directory
Failed to start miner in Diagnostics mode
Diagnostics completed

Linux
tonis@tonis:~/awesomeminer-remoteagent$ '/home/tonis/awesomeminer-remoteagent/AwesomeMiner.RemoteAgent.Linux'
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.403 [001] Loading configuration from: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/ServiceData.xml
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.828 [001] Configuration file created: 2/2/19 11:15:49 PM
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.843 [001] Starting Awesome Miner Service 6.1.10
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.843 [001] Branding: False,
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.843 [001] MSI-Installer filename: AwesomeMinerRemoteService.msi
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.844 [001] Loading service config from: /home/tonis/awesomeminer-remoteagent
Initialize log: /home/tonis/.local/share/AwesomeMinerService/AwesomeMinerService.log
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.867 [001] Log Initiated
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.869 [001] Process: 1622, Computer name: tonis, 64-bit OS: True, OS version: Unix 4.15.0.45, Is Admin: False
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.869 [001] Service Port: 9630
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.896 [001] Starting service
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.906 [003] Data Path: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.906 [003] Log Path: /home/tonis/.local/share/AwesomeMinerService
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.929 [003] Updating settings
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.931 [003] [W]Warning - Settings is null
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.932 [003] Current list of Active Miners:
[2] IsAttached: False, PID: 0, InstanceId: 1
[3] IsAttached: False, PID: 0, InstanceId: 2

2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.938 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Execute command: Add
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.941 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Adding miner
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.940 [003] Saving configuration to: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/ServiceData.xml.tmp
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.946 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.951 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Engine Type: BMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
2/3/19 1:19:18 AM.966 [005] EngineSetup: BMiner
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.018 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] InstanceID: 1
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.025 [005] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Couldn't reattach.
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.052 [003] --> /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/ServiceData.xml
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.066 [003] Starting Service Manager...
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.079 [003] IntelliServer::Start - Will listen on Port: 9630
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.254 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] Execute command: Add
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.255 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] Adding miner
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.255 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 2
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.255 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] Engine Type: SgMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.256 [005] EngineSetup: SgMiner
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.269 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] InstanceID: 2
2/3/19 1:19:19 AM.269 [005] [ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner] Couldn't reattach.
2/3/19 1:19:21 AM.125 [011] [W]Failed to get AMD GPU information
2/3/19 1:19:21 AM.125 [012] [W]Failed to get AMD GPU information
2/3/19 1:19:21 AM.126 [012] [W]Failed to get nVidia GPU information
2/3/19 1:19:21 AM.127 [011] [W]Failed to get nVidia GPU information
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.032 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Starting...
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.039 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Starting Mining Software
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.039 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.039 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Engine Type: BMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.039 [007] EngineSetup: BMiner
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.055 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] : Adding pool: eu-west-stratum.grinmint.com:3416
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.065 [007] Device selection ordering: Standard Device ID
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.079 [007] Set execution permission for: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/bminer
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.081 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: BMiner, IsProfitMiner: False)
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.082 [007] [ManagedMiner#2 - ] /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/bminer  -uri cuckaroo29://toha%40gmail.com:[email protected]:3416 -watchdog=false -api=0.0.0.0:4028
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.085 [007] Creating start script: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/awesome-start.sh, Command:
"/home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/bminer"  -uri cuckaroo29://toha%40gmail.com:[email protected]:3416 -watchdog=false -api=0.0.0.0:4028
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.086 [007] Set execution permission for: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/awesome-start.sh
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.087 [007] StartInfo Arguments: -dmS awesome0001 "/home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c-amd64.tar_1/bminer-v14.1.0-373029c/awesome-start.sh"
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.088 [007] [E]System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception: No such file or directory
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.119 [007] [E]   at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartCore(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
   at #=zu_LsrJFf8yzFe1dL12ga58DCrz_SVMeKKuHZ5YoDY4YN.#=zahKQjjI=(Process #=z55rANtY=, ProcessStartInfo #=zI79nH4U=, String #=zHqCqUOw5xMsxDtScPA==, Boolean #=zEoiRuqk=, Int32 #=zpYdVmXaxiUE6)
   at #=zAvQA3hwOR_TQHaCyBnGBheF2MHiQg7QoVZT7GEhmuhFu.#=ze6n6gbE=(Int32 #=z7r8SqDNOZzmR, Boolean #=zVy6QvZk=, Boolean #=zbM4mXM8=, BenchmarkCommand #=zN5M3YnrWPtbOUgAsvg==)
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.119 [007] [E][ManagedMiner#2 - ] Failed to start miner process: No such file or directory
2/3/19 1:19:24 AM.119 [007] [E][ManagedMiner#2 - ]Failed to start miner
2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.155 [007] [W]Failed to get AMD GPU information
2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.555 [007] Setting callback channel
2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.685 [007] Updating settings
2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.693 [007] Current list of Managed Miners:
[ManagedMiner#2 - ]: BMiner
[ManagedMiner#3 - My Profit Miner]: SgMiner

2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.693 [007] Current list of Clocking Profile:

2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.693 [007] Current list of Active Miners:
[2] IsAttached: True, PID: 0, InstanceId: 1
[3] IsAttached: True, PID: 0, InstanceId: 2

2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.693 [007] Saving configuration to: /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/ServiceData.xml.tmp
2/3/19 1:19:26 AM.696 [007] --> /home/tonis/.config/AwesomeMinerService/ServiceData.xml
full member
Activity: 675
Merit: 100
Patrike,

Can you explain how the exponential factor works for coins?   How do you know what the factor for any particular coin should be?
member
Activity: 418
Merit: 21
Hi Patrike,

small suggestion. If you hover your mouse at the bottom of AM over the little coin symbols, would be nice if you can also show the exchange which provides that price right now. Sometimes you see a nice price, but you don't know which exchange got that price  Huh
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
member
Activity: 418
Merit: 21
Hey Patrike,

can you please check and integrate the new SgMiner for ZCoin? https://github.com/zcoinofficial/sgminer/releases

Tried it by myself with a user defined miner. Even with the same settings as i wrote in the .bat file, it runs extremely slow trough AM (getting only 10% hashrate as in the .bat).

Here is the .bat which is fully working, maybe it helps you a little bit:
sgminer.exe --kernel mtp_vega  -o stratum+tcp://xzc.2miners.com:8080 -u blabla -p x --intensity 18 --text-only --device 0,1,2
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Okay I finally have some good expansion plans and now have a 53 unit setup located 60 miles from my house.

So I need to use awesomeminer to do this.  I do Have a 20 unit premium unused plan.

So My idea is to load it to a small pc I have a good i7 hp elite pc.  leave that pc in the new location and do the cloud plan.

so pc in my house >cloud>pc in new location with 53 miners.

this should let me run all 53 units if I have a plan that does that many units.

I don't have to set foot in Clifton NJ I can run from Howell,NJ

Next question  do I need cloud service for 100 and Ultimate 100

I have Premium paid for which is 170  for 20 pieces.

It looks like Enterprise is 340 for 40 pieces.

then Ultimate 100 is 700  for 100 pieces.

If I set the gear up In Clifton which has been done. I have 53 units I have the 20unit awesomeminer so does it cut off 33 units.  If I do the cloud and look to see the 20 the liensce allows how does it pick from my 53 units.

I know I will need to expand to more units.  So next question is. There anything between 40 units and 100 units.

As 53 units is a lot smaller then 100. Realistically I may have three sites with 70 units.  And the cloud.

So would I need three PCs one at each site?

And the cloud which would let me see all three locations.
Thanks for your questions.

First of all, you need to use the Awesome Miner Windows application to make the initial setup and add all miners. You cannot do that via the Cloud Services web interface. You either need to do that on site or via a Remote Desktop / TeamViewer connection to your remote PC on the mining site.

Cloud Services can be used to monitor the miners and perform the most common operations. You can access this web interface from your home for example.

If you are planning to run 53 miners, Awesome Miner will only let you add up to 20 miners with your current Premium Edition license. It will block you from adding more miners than your license allows. To all these miners, you do need the Ultimate 100 license as it's intended to be used as soon as you get to 41 miners or above.

To use Cloud Service, you also need a subscription level to handle the same about of miners. In this case Ultimate 100 subscription. So it's a Ultimate 100 license for Awesome Miner and Ultimate 100 subscription for Cloud Services.

You need a PC running Awesome Miner at each of these locations unless you have a VPN network that makes all of them into a single network. With a VPN solution like that, you can have a single Awesome Miner that is controlling all your sites, because it allows for connections to miners on all the networks. In many cases, this kind of deployment is preferable.

If you go for three separate installations of Awesome Miner, they will each report to a "Site" inside your Cloud Services web interface and you can control all the three sites via the web interface.

Okay  what I will do is  run it with one pc in clifton,nj  keep it at 20 units
I will add  cloud and see how I like it.
I will then expand to ultimate.

Thanks for reply,
BR,

 phil

http://www.awesomeminer.com/buy

"I have two computers, can I use the same registration code on both?
Yes, you can use the same registration code on up to four computers that belong to you if you monitor the same miners and don't exceed the number of miners your license if valid for. If you need to use the same license on more than four computers, please contact us first for approval.
It's not allowed to share your registration code with other users and not allowed to publish the registration code for everyone to use. Registration codes being shared with many users or published on the Internet will be blocked without refund."

I think I need it on 5 pcs once I am fully done with ultimate by june

For now  just 1 or 2 pc's
Thanks for the update. For the number of computers you need to activate the license on in the future, just drop me an e-mail once you install the software on a larger number of computers and it's no problem at all.
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