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Topic: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners - page 66. (Read 703583 times)

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Using awesome miner firmware, I have a target temperature set of 77 C.  My fan runs very quiet, temps creep up to 77, then fans kick on full blast for 3 seconds. Temps go back to 72, and quiet again. Repeat every couple minutes. It's very annoying because I usually have my L3+ running in my house.  Can you fix the logic to work like Blissz silent profile (fan will slowly increase speed until stable at target temperature). And then don't decrease speed until there's a delta of 2-3 degrees AND 1 hr has elapsed since last increase (to avoid constant changes in fan speed). The key is reducing changes in fan speed as this increases perceptible noise (your brain drowns out white noise perfectly unless it's constantly changing).

Right now the strategy of jumping to 72-77 deg with fan going from 900 rpm to full blast is very bad for electronics in terms of thermal cycling, and bad for airflow since I have multiple antminers connected to same exhaust area (so if one is randomly going to full blast it will backflow to others that are barely at speed). Need them all nice and stable!

Edit:
Did more testing
It appears that no matter what you set your target temperature to, when it hits 77 C, max fan speeds apply and temporarily override everything for 10 sec.
Set target to 80 C, it will only get to 77 before applying max fans, dropping temp back to 72
Set target to 77 C, it will still get to 77 and apply max fans
Set target to 76, it will be ok at first with gentle fan increases, but then barely jump into 77 ...and jump to full blast
Set target to 75, it will be ok most of the time...gentle fan increases to 75-76, and more rarely bump to 77 and then go full blast still.
Set target to 74, it will sometimes overshoot to 75-76, but small fan increases will stop it from hitting 77, so we're always nice and quiet. Adjustments are still +/-200rpm which is noisy and over shoots the low end.
Set target to 70, it makes very quiet, minor fan adjustments (+/- 20rpm), I like this! Perfect behavior. But I wish I could have my system stay warmer (76 C range) with this small adjustment behavior because I prefer slower 76 C fan load compared to to 70 C fan load.

So I think I found the fix: Undo the 77 C hard coded max fan speed. Since the default target is 65, adding 12 to 65 = 77.  If I change target temperature, change max fan speed override to (target)+12.  So if I set a target of 75, don't start overriding fast fan speeds until it approaches 87.

Hope that makes sense!

Also if fan check is on, the antminer will restart when hitting 77, and the tuning page says "Fan Err! Disable PIC! Fan1 speed is too low 1770 pwm 100". If I disable fan check, the error goes away and no restart happens. Very weird since this shows up when fans go faster.
Can you please let me know the configured temperature for "Chain disable temp" (the overheat feature)? Please also try to increase this value.

The firmware will try to make sure you are at least 10 C below this temperature and can increase the fan speed if needed. By increasing this temperature limit it will be less likely you run into a high fan speed.


I had Chain disable temp blank (so default 85). Changed it to 95, but still having same problem. I set target temp to 77, it gets to 78, fans go on full blast for a few seconds, it's then at 72, fans go super low back to 900rpm, then it creeps back up to 78, fans go on full blast again.

Thanks for the update. We will use your feedback and comments for future improvements. As for today, there are not really any additional parameters to play around with other than those you already used.

Any updates on this fix? The bug is harmful for silent setups because the fan is constantly going to Max at the wrong temperature.

This is what my settings look like:
https://i.imgur.com/lj10DPk.png

But fans go to max at 77 C, which over corrects temp back down to 70 C, and temp never gets to 79.

Also, if I set a manual fan speed, the fans still go to max at 77 C.  In that scenario I don't want max to kick in until something like 85C or whatever I set the overheat protection to.
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Activity: 1558
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Hi Patrike,

New Miniz miner version out 1.6x
legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 1095
Awesome Miner version 8.1.11

Version 8.1.11
 Integration
  - More balance units for wallet balance feature
 Mining software
  - NbMiner 34.5
  - Nanominer 3.1.3
  - T-rex miner 0.19.1
  - XmRig 6.6.2
  - SrbMiner Multi 0.5.8, with improved integration for displaying console output when running in administrator mode
  - Miniz Miner, improved integration for displaying console output when running in administrator mode
  - Lolminer API integration improved for External Miners
 Corrections
  - Improved AMD GPU detection on Linux
  - Improved connection management for Remote Agent on Linux. Note: The Test Connection and Network Scan operations will require Remote Agent to also be upgraded to the latest version.
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Activity: 1558
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Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.
Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.

Yes this can happen on many different miner in AM, not only srbminer-multi.
I've improved this for SrbMiner multi and Miniz miner.


@Patrike
Can you take a look in MiniZ miner. AM used the 3h Average hashrate for reading and not the realtime hashrate. Maybe you can change it and add the 3h average as average mining speed, like teamreadminer.
I've looked into the MiniZ API response, but it only includes a single hashrate. "speed_sps" (Solutions Per Second) and Awesome Miner will report this as the current hashrate. The MiniZ web interface do report two hashrates like you point out, but for some reason I can only see one in their API.

Strange, because AM show me 16 Sols the whole time and in the miniz window, the hashrate depends from 14 - 17 sols and the average is 16 Sols.

Ok i checked the API, Miniz only show the average speed over the API.  Sad
Maybe the MiniZ developer can add this, i will ask him.
legendary
Activity: 3556
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Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.
Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.

Yes this can happen on many different miner in AM, not only srbminer-multi.
I've improved this for SrbMiner multi and Miniz miner.


@Patrike
Can you take a look in MiniZ miner. AM used the 3h Average hashrate for reading and not the realtime hashrate. Maybe you can change it and add the 3h average as average mining speed, like teamreadminer.
I've looked into the MiniZ API response, but it only includes a single hashrate. "speed_sps" (Solutions Per Second) and Awesome Miner will report this as the current hashrate. The MiniZ web interface do report two hashrates like you point out, but for some reason I can only see one in their API.
legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 1095
Hi Patrike,
is it possible to add balance unit 1E-6, i need it to get the right balance.
Yes, I will add this in the next release.
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.

Yes this can happen on many different miner in AM, not only srbminer-multi.

@Patrike

Can you take a look in MiniZ miner. AM used the 3h Average hashrate for reading and not the realtime hashrate. Maybe you can change it and add the 3h average as average mining speed, like teamreadminer.

@joseph32

if you do it right, you don´t need to upload 2 softwares to your rig, you can all do with automatic download and so on. Grin

newbie
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Patrike,

When using "Run mining process with Administrator privileges", srbminer-multi just shows a blank console. It still mines, but there's no visible output.
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Yes. I'll upload both cuda versions to the whole rig. Split your rig into multiple profiles, for example 1 profile for all cuda X cards and 1 profile for all cuda Y cards.

In each profile click on the miner in the left list -> Configure and select the installation path/cuda version of your choice.
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Activity: 1558
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Yes, split your rigs into multiple profiles and set them to the cuda version you want. Thats how I did my mixed rigs. I have no idea how to improve this in a way, without making things to complicated. But maybe Patrik have a solution in his mind Smiley
What you mean with different profiles? Every profile consume a license?

Yes. But AM is worth every cent  Wink
can you explain how you configure a profile? I am understand that you create new rig with some selected GPU, but how you define for this rig a CUDA version? Or i am wroong and you have other way.

He do it like i explained. Go to option ->managed software -> and add t-rex miner as user defined software and chooes cuda 10. When you now want to select your mining software on a rig, you have 2 t-rex miner versions.

I do so for mixed rig with amd and nvidia cards.
legendary
Activity: 1754
Merit: 1007
Yes, split your rigs into multiple profiles and set them to the cuda version you want. Thats how I did my mixed rigs. I have no idea how to improve this in a way, without making things to complicated. But maybe Patrik have a solution in his mind Smiley
What you mean with different profiles? Every profile consume a license?

Yes. But AM is worth every cent  Wink
can you explain how you configure a profile? I am understand that you create new rig with some selected GPU, but how you define for this rig a CUDA version? Or i am wroong and you have other way.
member
Activity: 418
Merit: 21
Yes, split your rigs into multiple profiles and set them to the cuda version you want. Thats how I did my mixed rigs. I have no idea how to improve this in a way, without making things to complicated. But maybe Patrik have a solution in his mind Smiley
What you mean with different profiles? Every profile consume a license?

Yes. But AM is worth every cent  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1754
Merit: 1007
Yes, split your rigs into multiple profiles and set them to the cuda version you want. Thats how I did my mixed rigs. I have no idea how to improve this in a way, without making things to complicated. But maybe Patrik have a solution in his mind Smiley
What you mean with different profiles? Every profile consume a license?
legendary
Activity: 1754
Merit: 1007
Hi Patrike, AM need some improvements.
Please add to "Profit profile" in Overide section a possibility to overide a miner software CUDA version. At the moment is it imposible to set a CUDA version for mining rig explicit, only global for all rigs.
Now i have rigs with NVIDIA 3xxx cards and with NVIDIA 2xxx cards, T-Rex 0.19 better work on 2xxx cards which compiled for CUDA 10, but 3xxx cards work only with software compiled for CUDA 11
Will be much better if you add a possibility to set a CUDA version for each card in the rig. If somebody have a mixed rigs, this will be very helpfull.
Regards

For each rig makes sense, but every card? how would you realize it? a miner can not set cuda per card.

You can change the cuda version of a miner software in options. add t-rex as extra miner software with cuda 10 version, so that you have the ability to choose cuda 10 or 11 in miner properties.
all my rigs build with the same card type, my sentence was to made AM more friendly for different (mixed) rigs. Thanks for knowledge, how the CUDA work.
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Activity: 418
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Yes, split your rigs into multiple profiles and set them to the cuda version you want. Thats how I did my mixed rigs. I have no idea how to improve this in a way, without making things to complicated. But maybe Patrik have a solution in his mind Smiley
member
Activity: 1558
Merit: 69
Hi Patrike, AM need some improvements.
Please add to "Profit profile" in Overide section a possibility to overide a miner software CUDA version. At the moment is it imposible to set a CUDA version for mining rig explicit, only global for all rigs.
Now i have rigs with NVIDIA 3xxx cards and with NVIDIA 2xxx cards, T-Rex 0.19 better work on 2xxx cards which compiled for CUDA 10, but 3xxx cards work only with software compiled for CUDA 11
Will be much better if you add a possibility to set a CUDA version for each card in the rig. If somebody have a mixed rigs, this will be very helpfull.
Regards

For each rig makes sense, but every card? how would you realize it? a miner can not set cuda per card.

You can change the cuda version of a miner software in options. add t-rex as extra miner software with cuda 10 version, so that you have the ability to choose cuda 10 or 11 in miner properties.
legendary
Activity: 1754
Merit: 1007
Hi Patrike, AM need some improvements.
Please add to "Profit profile" in Overide section a possibility to overide a miner software CUDA version. At the moment is it imposible to set a CUDA version for mining rig explicit, only global for all rigs.
Now i have rigs with NVIDIA 3xxx cards and with NVIDIA 2xxx cards, T-Rex 0.19 better work on 2xxx cards which compiled for CUDA 10, but 3xxx cards work only with software compiled for CUDA 11
Will be much better if you add a possibility to set a CUDA version for each card in the rig. If somebody have a mixed rigs, this will be very helpfull.
Regards
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Activity: 145
Merit: 10
Hi,

Is it possible to get awesomeminer to display gpu stats when connected to lolminer/phoenixminer using external miner function?
Awesomeminer displays hashrate but nothing else.
When using the External Miner concept, Awesome Miner can only display the mining details provided by the mining software. For GPU it can typically include the temperature, but not all details you get if the mining is fully controlled by Awesome Miner or Remote Agent.

Hi Patrike,

Lolminer for example provides most of the important gpu stats in json format:
            "Index": 0,
            "Name": "AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT",
            "Performance": 43.13,
            "Consumption (W)": 72.001000000000005,
            "Fan Speed (%)": 51,
            "Temp (deg C)": 57,
            "Mem Temp (deg C)": 88,
            "Session_Accepted": 52,
            "Session_Submitted": 52,
            "Session_HWErr": 0,
            "Session_BestShare": 930349369113,
            "PCIE_Address": "3:0"

awesomeminer already display these stats if using the remote agent. Could we get them included when used as an external miner too?
Awesome Miner was already reading a number of these properties for Lolminer, but was missing a few important like fan speed, temperature and power usage. They may have been added to the Lolminer API at some point. I will improve this in the next release. Thanks for your feedback.

For Phoenix Miner via an External Miner I can already see the fan speed, hashrate and temperature reported for each GPU. Power usage isn't provided by the API.

Thanks Patrik, it would be awesome if you could also add lolminer's stats via external miner too
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Activity: 1558
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Hi Patrike,
is it possible to add balance unit 1E-6, i need it to get the right balance.
legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 1095
overclock options:

I need to setup some clocks to 2050 or 2060:



AM overclock tool only goes to 2000 at memory:



Can you change this to acept higher values?


AM is limited by BIOS of your GPU. So you must change your BIOS first and set a higher mem clock limit.
Yes, Awesome Miner tries to detects the limits and use the limits reported by the GPU. For some GPU types this detection isn't possible and in that case Awesome Miner did have some internal limits as a fallback (and these are the only limits I can make more relaxed).
You are fully correct that the GPU can be limited elsewhere (BIOS) and this also must be considered.
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