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crytotronik

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Quote from: Goool on April 04, 2018, 04:57:24 PM

BAIKAL any price update ?

LESS than $1200 ?? when ?

NEW ALGOS for BAIKAL X10 ? OR THE NEW ALGOS went to BAIKAL B and BAIKAL N ?

BAIKAL ARE YOU HERE ?? BAIKAL ?

quote this, so its on top of the latest thread page.

BAIKAL? Why are you telling your customer there will be 2 more Algos "soon"? Soon is never? Why dont you talk with your customers?

MiCoSa

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Quote from: NlaakStudios on April 04, 2018, 11:25:27 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 09:09:36 AM

Quote from: Gongolo on April 03, 2018, 07:21:51 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 06:43:30 AM

Well if you keep the old chain and make it a succesful coin, you can do, look at the forks of Bitcoin like Bitcoin Cash. The fact, that some devs just change algo is a thing, that is completely against decentralization. For me, what they are doing is just a scam. Telling they replace these algorithms, but keeping SHA256 and Scrypt, and telling the reason is decentralization. I can imagine the reason: The devs have only SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC's... In the end, there cant be any decentralization at all, if the devs can just decide to change algorithm. What other proof does anyone need for a completey centralized currency? It is not even better as Mr. Mario Draghi telling the worl he is generating 60 Billion Euro each month.
Fact for me is, that i will not support Digibyte anymore. I will wait for a good price to sell and then sell all my digibyte. In my opinion, this currency has no future with devs like this. For the beginning i will concentrate on Verge now.

If I didn't read wrong, DBG will not "fork" as BTC/BCC: previous chain will simply die and there will not be any dev to keep it alive.
Except for surprises, of course. :-)
It's a pity, yes.

Thats what i mean. If there were any persons who would be able to keep it alive, there would be a split. Of course i dont know if there is anyone interested in. I do not have the ability, otherwise i would do...

I tried to talk with the devs in there official support channel. But they only start insulting me and deleted my threads. So there is not only no decentralization... There is also censorship. If you write something in there channel they dont want to hear, or they dont want the community to hear, they just delete it. In the end, i am happy to find out how its working there, so i can stop investing time and money in this project right now...

Hmmm, I too have been a huge supporter of DigiByte and do not agree with this. I have a batch of X10's that I was just getting ready to sell off for re-investment of more equipment. However, I will now hold off and research this more. I will fork the repos now into my Company Repo so I have the old code and will consider keeping the old blockchain alive.

Keep in mind though that it's not just that simple. You will still have to do some code configuration updates, list the coin on exchanges and be responsible for future updates and support. I have been working on a new blockchain whitepaper for two months now and initially wanted to use DigiByte as the coin, but did not want to fork. Now it looks like if they go through with this, I may as well just fork and use it as the base coin which will kill two birds with a single stone.

Thoughts?

I think that sounds quite good

Goool

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BAIKAL any price update ?

LESS than $1200 ?? when ?

NEW ALGOS for BAIKAL X10 ? OR THE NEW ALGOS went to BAIKAL B and BAIKAL N ?

BAIKAL ARE YOU HERE ?? BAIKAL ?

Goool

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This is a war The big one BITMAIN is eating the little BAIKAL

Read good the DGB announcement :
''At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein.''

So basicaly they exclude the BAIKAL X10 miner and they let BITMAIN to mine it
If you think that like this DGB will develop you make a mistake !

BITMAIN want's to eat all the small mining companies .....
I am not supporting BAIKAL they are SCAMMING people with overpriced products and probably they deserve it but bitmain is doing deals under the table with DGB DEVELOPERS and this is more than a SCAM !! BE AWARE !

NlaakStudios

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Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 09:09:36 AM

Quote from: Gongolo on April 03, 2018, 07:21:51 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 06:43:30 AM

Well if you keep the old chain and make it a succesful coin, you can do, look at the forks of Bitcoin like Bitcoin Cash. The fact, that some devs just change algo is a thing, that is completely against decentralization. For me, what they are doing is just a scam. Telling they replace these algorithms, but keeping SHA256 and Scrypt, and telling the reason is decentralization. I can imagine the reason: The devs have only SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC's... In the end, there cant be any decentralization at all, if the devs can just decide to change algorithm. What other proof does anyone need for a completey centralized currency? It is not even better as Mr. Mario Draghi telling the worl he is generating 60 Billion Euro each month.
Fact for me is, that i will not support Digibyte anymore. I will wait for a good price to sell and then sell all my digibyte. In my opinion, this currency has no future with devs like this. For the beginning i will concentrate on Verge now.

If I didn't read wrong, DBG will not "fork" as BTC/BCC: previous chain will simply die and there will not be any dev to keep it alive.
Except for surprises, of course. :-)
It's a pity, yes.

Thats what i mean. If there were any persons who would be able to keep it alive, there would be a split. Of course i dont know if there is anyone interested in. I do not have the ability, otherwise i would do...

I tried to talk with the devs in there official support channel. But they only start insulting me and deleted my threads. So there is not only no decentralization... There is also censorship. If you write something in there channel they dont want to hear, or they dont want the community to hear, they just delete it. In the end, i am happy to find out how its working there, so i can stop investing time and money in this project right now...

Hmmm, I too have been a huge supporter of DigiByte and do not agree with this. I have a batch of X10's that I was just getting ready to sell off for re-investment of more equipment. However, I will now hold off and research this more. I will fork the repos now into my Company Repo so I have the old code and will consider keeping the old blockchain alive.

Keep in mind though that it's not just that simple. You will still have to do some code configuration updates, list the coin on exchanges and be responsible for future updates and support. I have been working on a new blockchain whitepaper for two months now and initially wanted to use DigiByte as the coin, but did not want to fork. Now it looks like if they go through with this, I may as well just fork and use it as the base coin which will kill two birds with a single stone.

Thoughts?

wolverine5pl

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anyone knows good pool for myrgrosl besides zpool and mining dutch?
zergpool really could use more hashrate on this algo

wolverine5pl

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Quote from: Selector79 on April 04, 2018, 02:48:13 AM

Quote from: senseless on April 03, 2018, 08:53:55 PM

Did the other 2 algos for the X10 ever get released?

Forget it. They promise us since november 2 new algos!

I asked them if "soon" will be still this year!!! NO ANSWER!!!

DO NOT BUY SOMETHING FROM BAIKAL!!! SCAM!!!

they told me they are testing new algos for x10 but I think its just a SCAM. They have released two other miners since x10 and still no new algos.
I feel sorry for guys who bought Baikal N with most of coins doing hard fork to avoid being mined by it

Selector79

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Quote from: senseless on April 03, 2018, 08:53:55 PM

Did the other 2 algos for the X10 ever get released?

Forget it. They promise us since november 2 new algos!

I asked them if "soon" will be still this year!!! NO ANSWER!!!

DO NOT BUY SOMETHING FROM BAIKAL!!! SCAM!!!

senseless

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Did the other 2 algos for the X10 ever get released?

Swayzeee

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We got a pool we just put up today 1% fees. Mining DGB- Qubit algo. Come put your Baikal on the pool and help the littles guys out Wink

. We have been around for awhile don't scam anyone. If you don't want to mine for the chinese come to our pool you are all welcome.

http://www.minertopia.org/

Setup instructions are pretty easy..

You can also PM me if you need help.

wolf_miner

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There is an official comunication, DGB stop using X10 algo soon https://medium.com/@josiah_digibyte/digibyte-through-2018-wallets-algo-swap-and-why-you-dont-need-to-worry-about-a-fork-a22c407319d6 .

Cheers W_M

Goool

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Fake news about DGB !! be serious their coin has future why someone does want to fork it ?

MiCoSa

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Quote from: Gongolo on April 03, 2018, 07:21:51 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 06:43:30 AM

Well if you keep the old chain and make it a succesful coin, you can do, look at the forks of Bitcoin like Bitcoin Cash. The fact, that some devs just change algo is a thing, that is completely against decentralization. For me, what they are doing is just a scam. Telling they replace these algorithms, but keeping SHA256 and Scrypt, and telling the reason is decentralization. I can imagine the reason: The devs have only SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC's... In the end, there cant be any decentralization at all, if the devs can just decide to change algorithm. What other proof does anyone need for a completey centralized currency? It is not even better as Mr. Mario Draghi telling the worl he is generating 60 Billion Euro each month.
Fact for me is, that i will not support Digibyte anymore. I will wait for a good price to sell and then sell all my digibyte. In my opinion, this currency has no future with devs like this. For the beginning i will concentrate on Verge now.

If I didn't read wrong, DBG will not "fork" as BTC/BCC: previous chain will simply die and there will not be any dev to keep it alive.
Except for surprises, of course. :-)
It's a pity, yes.

Thats what i mean. If there were any persons who would be able to keep it alive, there would be a split. Of course i dont know if there is anyone interested in. I do not have the ability, otherwise i would do...

I tried to talk with the devs in there official support channel. But they only start insulting me and deleted my threads. So there is not only no decentralization... There is also censorship. If you write something in there channel they dont want to hear, or they dont want the community to hear, they just delete it. In the end, i am happy to find out how its working there, so i can stop investing time and money in this project right now...

Gongolo

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Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 06:43:30 AM

Well if you keep the old chain and make it a succesful coin, you can do, look at the forks of Bitcoin like Bitcoin Cash. The fact, that some devs just change algo is a thing, that is completely against decentralization. For me, what they are doing is just a scam. Telling they replace these algorithms, but keeping SHA256 and Scrypt, and telling the reason is decentralization. I can imagine the reason: The devs have only SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC's... In the end, there cant be any decentralization at all, if the devs can just decide to change algorithm. What other proof does anyone need for a completey centralized currency? It is not even better as Mr. Mario Draghi telling the worl he is generating 60 Billion Euro each month.
Fact for me is, that i will not support Digibyte anymore. I will wait for a good price to sell and then sell all my digibyte. In my opinion, this currency has no future with devs like this. For the beginning i will concentrate on Verge now.

If I didn't read wrong, DBG will not "fork" as BTC/BCC: previous chain will simply die and there will not be any dev to keep it alive.
Except for surprises, of course. :-)
It's a pity, yes.

MiCoSa

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Activity: 201

Merit: 1

Quote from: tomwrx on April 03, 2018, 04:32:41 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 12:03:37 AM

Quote from: wolverine5pl on April 02, 2018, 12:14:20 PM

Quote from: Selector79 on April 02, 2018, 08:34:55 AM

Quote from: pikachuy on April 02, 2018, 06:11:31 AM

Quote from: bclcjunkie on April 02, 2018, 04:12:30 AM

DGB will remove Qubit, Groestl & Skein. xvg is just another shitcoin that won't last long..

https://medium.com/@josiah_digibyte/digibyte-through-2018-wallets-algo-swap-and-why-you-dont-need-to-worry-about-a-fork-a22c407319d6

At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein.

We’re aware that some people have gone out and purchased things such as Groestl / Skein miners with them only having come out since November ’17, however we’re also aware there are a decent number of other blockchains that users can still use those ASIC miners on, so those with the relatively new ASICs still have other options they can pursue.

Lol, he's a hypocrite. That's like a double standard.

With the following quotes:

"By changing some of the mining algorithms, we’re going to be doing away with some (not all) ASIC mine-able algorithms so that we still get the distribution afforded to us by GPU miners."

"So why are we doing this? If we had to describe why in two words, it would be “Security” & “Decentralization”."

"At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein."

In other words, that's not Decentralization cause he favors SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC still. No body mines SHA256 and Scrypt with GPU's... LOL

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

Not happy.
Was supporting DGB. hence i bought x10. Wankers

Guys having problem.
My miner a while of mining doesnt let me to connect.
Any clue why?

Anyone who has the skills (unfortunately i do not) should keep alive the old blockchain in this hardfork and keep going those algorithms. Just taking away this algos is not what the comminty wants... so we need to show to the dev team, if they do so, they will have a split like ethereum and ethereum classic... maybe they consider to do not then...
How does decentralization fot to the fact, that one persn (or maybe a few persons in the dev team) decide to stop these algorithms. This is centralization as it could not be shown better and if they do so really, i think and i hope that this is the end of Digibyte...

Removing algorithms because of decenralization reasons and keeping exactly those two asic algorithms where you have the most centralization sounds just ridiculous to me...

You can keep old chain as long as you want. You will end having worthless coins, because no one will assept them - nor exchange, nor anyone. If the devs want to change algo, they will do that and no one is going to prevent that. Sad but true.

Well if you keep the old chain and make it a succesful coin, you can do, look at the forks of Bitcoin like Bitcoin Cash. The fact, that some devs just change algo is a thing, that is completely against decentralization. For me, what they are doing is just a scam. Telling they replace these algorithms, but keeping SHA256 and Scrypt, and telling the reason is decentralization. I can imagine the reason: The devs have only SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC's... In the end, there cant be any decentralization at all, if the devs can just decide to change algorithm. What other proof does anyone need for a completey centralized currency? It is not even better as Mr. Mario Draghi telling the worl he is generating 60 Billion Euro each month.
Fact for me is, that i will not support Digibyte anymore. I will wait for a good price to sell and then sell all my digibyte. In my opinion, this currency has no future with devs like this. For the beginning i will concentrate on Verge now.

tomwrx

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Quote from: MiCoSa on April 03, 2018, 12:03:37 AM

Quote from: wolverine5pl on April 02, 2018, 12:14:20 PM

Quote from: Selector79 on April 02, 2018, 08:34:55 AM

Quote from: pikachuy on April 02, 2018, 06:11:31 AM

Quote from: bclcjunkie on April 02, 2018, 04:12:30 AM

DGB will remove Qubit, Groestl & Skein. xvg is just another shitcoin that won't last long..

https://medium.com/@josiah_digibyte/digibyte-through-2018-wallets-algo-swap-and-why-you-dont-need-to-worry-about-a-fork-a22c407319d6

At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein.

We’re aware that some people have gone out and purchased things such as Groestl / Skein miners with them only having come out since November ’17, however we’re also aware there are a decent number of other blockchains that users can still use those ASIC miners on, so those with the relatively new ASICs still have other options they can pursue.

Lol, he's a hypocrite. That's like a double standard.

With the following quotes:

"By changing some of the mining algorithms, we’re going to be doing away with some (not all) ASIC mine-able algorithms so that we still get the distribution afforded to us by GPU miners."

"So why are we doing this? If we had to describe why in two words, it would be “Security” & “Decentralization”."

"At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein."

In other words, that's not Decentralization cause he favors SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC still. No body mines SHA256 and Scrypt with GPU's... LOL

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

Not happy.
Was supporting DGB. hence i bought x10. Wankers

Guys having problem.
My miner a while of mining doesnt let me to connect.
Any clue why?

Anyone who has the skills (unfortunately i do not) should keep alive the old blockchain in this hardfork and keep going those algorithms. Just taking away this algos is not what the comminty wants... so we need to show to the dev team, if they do so, they will have a split like ethereum and ethereum classic... maybe they consider to do not then...
How does decentralization fot to the fact, that one persn (or maybe a few persons in the dev team) decide to stop these algorithms. This is centralization as it could not be shown better and if they do so really, i think and i hope that this is the end of Digibyte...

Removing algorithms because of decenralization reasons and keeping exactly those two asic algorithms where you have the most centralization sounds just ridiculous to me...

You can keep old chain as long as you want. You will end having worthless coins, because no one will assept them - nor exchange, nor anyone. If the devs want to change algo, they will do that and no one is going to prevent that. Sad but true.

MiCoSa

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Quote from: wolverine5pl on April 02, 2018, 12:14:20 PM

Quote from: Selector79 on April 02, 2018, 08:34:55 AM

Quote from: pikachuy on April 02, 2018, 06:11:31 AM

Quote from: bclcjunkie on April 02, 2018, 04:12:30 AM

DGB will remove Qubit, Groestl & Skein. xvg is just another shitcoin that won't last long..

https://medium.com/@josiah_digibyte/digibyte-through-2018-wallets-algo-swap-and-why-you-dont-need-to-worry-about-a-fork-a22c407319d6

At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein.

We’re aware that some people have gone out and purchased things such as Groestl / Skein miners with them only having come out since November ’17, however we’re also aware there are a decent number of other blockchains that users can still use those ASIC miners on, so those with the relatively new ASICs still have other options they can pursue.

Lol, he's a hypocrite. That's like a double standard.

With the following quotes:

"By changing some of the mining algorithms, we’re going to be doing away with some (not all) ASIC mine-able algorithms so that we still get the distribution afforded to us by GPU miners."

"So why are we doing this? If we had to describe why in two words, it would be “Security” & “Decentralization”."

"At this point in time it’s looking like SHA256 (Bitcoin ASICs) and Scrypt (Litecoin ASICs) will stay, and we’ll probably replace Qubit, Groestl & Skein."

In other words, that's not Decentralization cause he favors SHA256 and Scrypt ASIC still. No body mines SHA256 and Scrypt with GPU's... LOL

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

But it would means a dead of X10 Mining, if they change the algo`s. Bacause more than 100 TH/s who mine now DGB go to other coins!

Not happy.
Was supporting DGB. hence i bought x10. Wankers

Guys having problem.
My miner a while of mining doesnt let me to connect.
Any clue why?

Anyone who has the skills (unfortunately i do not) should keep alive the old blockchain in this hardfork and keep going those algorithms. Just taking away this algos is not what the comminty wants... so we need to show to the dev team, if they do so, they will have a split like ethereum and ethereum classic... maybe they consider to do not then...
How does decentralization fot to the fact, that one persn (or maybe a few persons in the dev team) decide to stop these algorithms. This is centralization as it could not be shown better and if they do so really, i think and i hope that this is the end of Digibyte...

Removing algorithms because of decenralization reasons and keeping exactly those two asic algorithms where you have the most centralization sounds just ridiculous to me...

Selector79

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Quote from: Goool on April 02, 2018, 03:59:19 PM

Quote from: craigh on March 31, 2018, 07:18:11 PM

Quote from: Goool on March 31, 2018, 06:52:25 PM

Quote from: craigh on March 31, 2018, 05:44:50 PM

Quote from: Goool on March 31, 2018, 12:30:01 AM

Price should be less than $1000 !! for such an old miner
Everything that they sell is heavy used !

BAIKAL STOP THE SCAM !!!!

Come on. They may be greedy feckers, but it's not a scam! You have a choice: buy or don't buy. At these prices, I wouldn't buy, but it's my personal choice. Just because they're overpriced (in my opinion) doesn't make it a scam!

C.

You didn't read good ....Baikal is selling heavily used miners as 'new' ... also overpriced ...
2nd after what they did with BAIKAL-N presented as a new miner and actually it was a used miner that they used for 4 months and when the discover about the fork they decide to dump them to the market .... this is the definition of SCAM.
We don't forget and we have eyes !!

Proof? Heard these rumours many times before.

FYI: I've had my Baikal for over 4 months. It looks no different and runs no different since the day I got it. So, how would one tell it's "heavily used"?

C.

Proof ?? Here you go, unscrew your 'fan'ventilator and check how lose it is ! Check the heatshink paste.

Price SCAM ... batch one was $1200 in 2017 and today 2 April 2018 they want $2699 .... SCAM !!
The day that they will put BAIKAL X10 less than $1200 i will be the 1st one to give them congrats !

The DAY is soon and you will get on this day 0.1USD a day from X10! Buy it ALL

Hellracer

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i have my x10 at Mining dutch. Multipoort, I took the verdiff port. What difference does it make when I use d = 15. currently have nothing in it.

Dlikrot

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No wonder people get angry. Price between batch 1 and 2 until now is insane.

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