Topic: [banned mixer] - Bitcoin mixer | 50+ BTC in reserves are confirmed! - page 5. (Read 2286 times)

· Integrated Letter of guarantee (order number key).

· Switching to a different, more up—to-date format of bitcoin addresses (from legacy "1" -> to Bech32 "bc1q").

· Ability to add multiple Bitcoin addresses to receive (up to 10).

· The ability to manually set the delay for each recipient address individually.

· The ability to distribute as a percentage the entire deposit amount in parts, also individually to each recipient's address up to hundredths of %.

· The minimum commission has been increased from 0.3% to 0.5%.

· The range of commission selection has expanded. It was up to 1.5% - it became up to 2.5%

· The ability of the service to set an additional randomized delay of several minutes (random delta) to the main delay selected by the user.

· Changed the concept of the 3rd page (payment page) at the front-end level.

· Significantly optimized algorithms.

· Increased the range of delay selection. Was up to 48 hours, became up to 120 hours (five days). 168 hours (seven days).

· Added 1 more channel for secure external communication (support). In addition to the Protonmail and telegram - an anonymous messenger Session.

· All of the above is also available and adapted on the websites of the mobile version.

· requests from external fonts, such as: Fonts.googleapis.com and Fonts.gstatic.com were eliminated, both in the clearnet version of the site and in the onion version. [banned mixer] service no longer uploads any third-party, external files.

· The approximate waiting time for feedback on questions/support has been changed from 30min —> 1 hour.

On behalf of the team of this product, we recognize that the PureMixer project required improvements, both small and insignificant, and large and significant. And we've been through it. We have created a perfect product for today, which from a technical point of view is not inferior to the best services in this industry. We have carefully studied all the feedback and suggestions that you have sent us and have made appropriate changes/improvements to our product. We sincerely thank you for your criticism and support. Your participation in the development of PureMixer is invaluable, and we promise that we will not stop there. We will continue to work hard to provide you with the best coin mixing experience on the market and become your trusted partner in the world of digital finance. Thank you for your patience and waiting.

We kindly ask the following users to correct their early comments/notes in view of the current state of the service: @LoyceV, @Husires, @decodx, @FatFork, @ETFbitcoin

We also ask users to look at the minimum amount BTC for mixing. It varies depending on the order form you have filled out, namely: additional addresses to receive.
1 address to receive = Min. amount: 0.001 BTC
2 addresses to receive = Min. amount: 0.002 BTC
etc.

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We acknowledge that our integration of the "order number key" instead of the letter of guarantee was a mistake. We also admit that our vision in this regard was also erroneous. But that's in the past now. And in the past, not because we rejected it with a "wave of our hand", but because we accepted your criticism and developed it, revised and rethought many things and carried out a huge and painstaking work on mistakes. And eventually fixed it. For all the long months of PureMixer's existence, there has not been a single "victim" or even a person who would publicly complain that his coins were not delivered to him on time. Because even if there were some "incidents" in mixing, we solved everything with users in the near future, since several operators of the PureMixer service own channels for feedback with users at once, just in order to please those who are in different time zones and solve problems as soon as possible hurry up. We also regularly visited the forum during our absence/bug fixes and update development in order to resolve any problem that a user would share using our product. In connection with all this:


We intend to close this "gestalt" consisting of doubt in us and distrust of us. At this stage, the most important thing for us is your loyalty to our project. It is necessary to eradicate all doubts and misunderstandings about our product, and then fully enter into marketing. In this regard, we appeal to the entire staff of the forum: please write what makes you suspicious about us at this moment, after all that we have already done? What else do we need to do so that you all understand the potential of our strength and the seriousness of our intentions? - We promise that we will fulfill this offer, whatever it is. Therefore, we ask you to treat this request with the most responsible approach, because this is one of the most important stages for us as a service that will be used by a lot of customers in the future. Go ahead! We are waiting.


 

Okay, we heard you. It makes no sense for us to have a discussion now, but we will definitely return to this as soon as the already updated one is launched [banned mixer] . And then you and I will proceed to the very climax. See you soon and have a nice day.

Yes: it's you. You can't change that, you started by lying, and once caught, you can never be trusted.

The best mixer in the market is gone. There's currently no market leader, but I know one thing: only the ones who are always honest stand a chance.

Edited.

Yes, that's right, we did. The reason for this is that we simply wanted to promote the thread this way (1 question - 1 answer, question - answer, etc.). But it turned out to be ineffective. We figured it out and took it into account. We really didn't know that we could post after 24 hours, even if the last post in the thread came from us. Since that list of forum rules you sent us 32 the rule goes like this: It doesn't mention a word about the 24 hour interval.

We understand your indignation about our order number key instead of LoG. But, as we wrote above, we will figure it out and do everything right (implement LoG).
But tell me, please, is there anything else in our product that really bothers you and seems doubtful? We will be grateful for a detailed answer. So that we can also fix it if possible.
And one more question to you: which is the best mixer on the market for you today and why?

How convenient
Why don't you edit the misleading statement?

Nice, another lie. You've posted several times since then, and there is of course the edit button.

I'll just keep reminding people not to trust you

Thank you for informing us. It would not hurt us to allocate a certain amount of time to study the rules of the forum. We'll do it at our leisure sometime  .

Editing your post is not against Rule #32. And you can also write another post (right after your previous post) after 24 hours.

We're in this for the long haul*. That's what we meant. Another typo.

The reason for such a long response to you lies in the fact that we took into account your note regarding the forum rule #32. After we answered the questions, the next activity in our branch was observed after a long period of time. That's why there is such a delay in the response. We apologize. From now on, we will put all the accumulated questions in one message.

You're partly right, but no one is immune to this. As practice shows, even some of the most popular and sought-after mixers end up resorting to fraud. As you yourself mentioned earlier, this industry is all about trust. And, as we mentioned earlier , PureMixer is here to stay. So only over a long period of time will we be able to gain the trust of potential clients.

You're lying again, 7 weeks is by no means a long time. And it took you 7 weeks minus 2 days to respond to a simple question.

This is exactly how exit scams happen.

Dear users [banned mixer]! We come to you with a message that the update of the project is postponed indefinitely. It will definitely take place in the near future, and we will certainly make an announcement with the exact release date of the update when the time comes. The updated, upgraded PureMixer service will undoubtedly be able to give substantial competition to any other mixing service on the market. We are convinced of this, and you will also be convinced of it. On behalf of the entire PureMixer team, we sincerely apologize for the delay. We will definitely keep you up to date. Follow the news.

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Well... Since we have already made a statement, we will also answer your lingering questions/misunderstandings at the same time:

Proving the availability of our service funds means providing you with the balance of a service wallet with addresses, which is absurd for several reasons:
1) We don't know who exactly is sitting behind a well-pumped user account. It is possible that the older brother  . It is also possible that in the near future a competitor will contact the user to whom we have provided the balance of funds with a very piquant offer to provide information about our balance to him. Which, in turn, will result in very serious and irreversible problems for the project.
2) If we take this step, it will alienate from us third-party adherents of anonymity and the corresponding loss of these very users.
Mission [banned mixer] — to preserve the privacy of both your own and users. It is this combination that will ultimately betray maximum productivity. These are the beliefs and principles on which we were founded.
We, in turn, provide you with much more than a wallet balance.This is the time. We're in this for the long haul, so, after all, over time the picture will shine through more and more clearly in relation to us.

And yes, after your message, we looked through the branches of almost all the mixers, and none of them revealed their reserves except for the only mixer you mentioned - Cryptomixer. Maybe we were not so attentive and missed it, if so, then please throw off the branches of mixers in addition to Cryptomixer, which revealed their reserves. Thanks

Regarding your question about how the community will be able to know our strength.
Everything is quite simple: if you are personally interested and need mixing, but at the same time you have doubts about our product, then you can first send the minimum amount for mixing, and then, if everything suits you, then send large amounts already.
And so, review the reviews about our mixer and you will not see any negative reviews, or even misunderstandings about any delays. Our tool is working properly.

Hello. In fact, the probability of such a situation is minimal. But if it does happen, then in our modal window everything is clearly written out what to do in such situations. (see photo)



Yes, by the phrase "did not receive the change" we meant an "unconfirmed" transaction. After all, even though the funds after the transfer are displayed in the final wallet instantly, yet without confirmation in the blockchain, these funds are "dummies" that cannot be used. We apologize for the possibly inaccurate wording.

Okay, this is your bet, your opinion. And it has a place to be, given that we are a relatively new product that has some shortcomings today. Our vision is the following:
1) Abuse of decentralization
2) Undermining decentralization
3) Place and time
And now we will describe each item in more detail :
1) Hacker attacks. The fact is that over time, more and more crypto projects are being launched and put into operation. The more new projects there are, the more vulnerabilities and opportunities for hackers, respectively. And old, stagnant and market-leading projects are introducing various financial technologies, which also entail vulnerabilities. Therefore, in order to protect their assets and themselves, users should remain in the shadows using disguise methods. One of these methods is a bitcoin mixer. This is quite a serious problem, since hackers are constantly improving their skills by adding more and more sophisticated methods of bypassing project security systems, which accompanies the deanonymization of users and the corresponding theft of user funds and personal data. And we can assume that this situation will only get worse over time. And then, our services will come in handy.
2) Every day, month and year, law enforcement agencies of different countries, with the support of analytical companies, tighten control over citizens' crypto assets, introduce more and more restrictions/bans and threats, create various tools for regulating and tracking crypto accounts, recruit various large projects, exchanges. And the latter have no choice but to either curtail their activities on the territory of the aggressor state, or else submit to it and thereby deal a huge blow to the ideology of "decentralization". So, we are talking about the fact that, as a result, statistics show us multibillion-dollar turnover through mixing services, which indicates that users realized the seriousness of undermining "decentralization" and began to take precautions against their finances, trying to isolate them from hateful individuals. In view of all the above, we can conclude that the trend for services such as bitcoin mixers will grow. And it will grow exponentially. And we are sincerely glad to be a part of it.
3) The market situation for us, as mixer operators, has developed in a good way. And we concluded that now is the right time and place for a successful outcome. In 1 year, such mastodons as chipmixer (siezed), blender (siezed) tornado cash (sanction) have left the market. There is a lot of money in this area. We are not considering an exit with any amount, as this is a short-term benefit. We have seen in our own practice that the mixing service is quite a profitable business. And becoming one of the best mixing services means —> making a solid profit every month on a long-term basis. And such an outcome is a priority goal for the project. Even if we take into account the data of the Ministry of Finance and analytical companies on how many funds passed only through chipmixer and blender, it will already be billions. And then these are only the values that they were able to identify and fix, that is, the so-called "tip of the iceberg". Since in fact these amounts are much more impressive. Now these billions are stagnating, and their owners are closely watching the trend of newly minted bitcoin mixers and testing all mixing services in the hope of finding a worthy replacement for the now defunct (closed) mixers. And no one has managed to take their places yet due to the time of existence of currently active mixing services. Yes, we did not go quite well and admit that at the moment our service is not competitive in comparison with some of the leading mixers at the moment. But we are working on it. We are not going to stop and will not stop until you, enthusiasts and potential customers are satisfied with us. This is our job. This is our task.

Again, we don't think so, because it's irrational and stupid. Users themselves weigh all the risks and send smaller amounts. Even if their goal is to spend the same 56 BTC through our mixer, they will divide this amount into certain (small) parts and gradually, step by step, spend the entire amount, thereby minimizing any risks for themselves. Of course, this method significantly increases the fee for network fees, but still. If we talk in this way, then here is one of the options.

With all due respect, we haven't said anywhere that you HAVE to trust us right now. We, of course, realize that projects like ours will be worthy of mass trust not in a matter of days, weeks or even months, but for a rather long stagnant time. This is a long process. And we are ready for it.
By the word "identical" we meant that the order number key for the user is the only personal proof that the mixing belongs to him, as, in fact, in the case of LoG. You are right that with a letter of guarantee, a user who has become a victim of a fraudulent scam will be able to create a "riot" thereby warning the next potential victims and sinking this fraudulent project. Our intentions are good, and we will confirm this in practice. (see below) *

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But everything we answer to you,@LoyceV, is just text, not actions. We are not scammers, and we do not even want to be associated in any way with such persons: like in this exit scam.


* Therefore, we have reviewed your criticism and concluded that it is really constructive. We promise that we will reconsider our attitude to this situation, and it is possible that you will see LoG already in this very soon update of the project. And then, when this happens, we will be happy to resume communication with you, only in a more optimistic format. Thank you.

- We offer cryptotransaction anonymization services based on classical (traditional) mixing. To date, most bitcoin mixers use CoinJoin technology or are somehow indirectly (as they themselves claim) connected with it. Which is not good due to the fact that for many years analytical companies have used and continue to use many tools and countermeasures against this technology, such as CoinJoin Sudoku and others. A certain number of mixers are running on the basis of the Jambler platform, which is also not good. Since the operators of such bitcoin mixers cannot guarantee with 100% confidence to their users anything, for example, the most important thing - privacy, since the service is far from being 100% subject to them, because such mixers will be produced on the Jambler infrastructure.
In any case, true privacy adherents will not constantly use the same mixing service, as this jeopardizes their anonymity. Everyone who uses bitcoin mixers on a regular basis needs to use them alternately. This approach is mandatory. This is because for deeper data analysis, analytical companies use numerous strategies, such as identifying behavioral patterns and masking methods. This is an integral part of the entire process of tracking cryptotransactions from analytical companies. Its name is clustering.
As for the delay, in our upcoming update it will be increased to 5 days (120 hours).

- In the future, we considered switching to a different format. Especially if we take into account the current situation, when we observe a strong congestion of the BTC network caused by the interest of BRC-20 format tokens and the Ordinals protocol. If this situation does not settle down by the end of May or even worsens, then we will have to consider this situation as a matter of priority and take appropriate measures to transfer reserve assets to the current format - (bc1) by our upcoming update. We'll keep you posted. Follow the news.

- PureMixer currently supports all address formats:

P2PKH which begin with the number 1:
Example - 1Fh7ajXabJBpZPZw8bjD3QU4CuQ3pRty9u

P2SH type starting with the number 3:
Example - 3KF9nXowQ4asSGxRRzeiTpDjMuwM2nypAN

Bech32 type starting with bc1:
Example - bc1qf3uwcxaz779nxedw0wry89v9cjh9w2xylnmqc3

Except just the same Taproot - P2TR format you mentioned. It will also be available in the future.

- For our part, we do not notice any failures or delays in the operation of our sites. The pages are working properly, nothing freezes. Have you made sure that everything is working properly on your side?
As for the design, this was not the main purpose for us. The main thing was and is that our tool is unique and effective.Therefore, I repeat, our service does not use any constructors and frameworks. Regarding the interface, there was only one task - to make it simple and convenient to use. This task, we believe, has been completed.

Update: Both clearnet and Tor version no longer make any request to external website.

I can confirm Tor version no longer access make request from Google server, so my claim status has been resolved. But take note clearnet version still make request to Google server. It's possible https://fontsplugin.com/google-fonts-checker/ actually check cloudflare security check page rather than your actual website.

We have corrected this misunderstanding both in the clearnet version and in the onion version of our sites.
@ETFbitcoin, we ask you to check the adjustments we have made yourself, and if your claim has been resolved, then please confirm this in our thread and correct your message in accordance with the current state of the project. Thank you in advance.

I get your point. But when people use Tor Browser to access .onion website, they generally don't install additional extension following Tor Project suggestion[1].


Perhaps, but as i said previously it's enough to make privacy conscious person feel uneasy with any mixer which load data from third-party website.

[1] https://support.torproject.org/glossary/add-on-extension-or-plugin/

I am not sure if I understand you correctly.
Can you take that for granted? Everyone learns step by step and I can not imagine that privacy conscious people set everything correctly before using a browser for the first time. Just as surely not everyone knows at the beginning that Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous.

Privacy conscious people have a browser set up to block such things, it's part of the basics like having an ads blocker to surf the web.
If they don't  have, they don't belong to the privacy conscious group.

I don't think he needs to specify it when everyone knows and knowing the web is full of external fonts by the way

No real harm to be honest, if we speak about privacy.

As far as I know, fonts.googleapis.com and fonts.gstatic.com downloads fonts from the google server. Thus data is shared with google. There are ways to prevent this. But first PureMixerio should have its say. Otherwise he would get the answers on a silver platte.