Topic: [banned mixer] - Bitcoin mixer | 50+ BTC in reserves are confirmed! - page 6. (Read 2273 times)

Update: Both clearnet and Tor version no longer make any request to external website.

Status: Resolved. Tor version doesn't make request to google server anymore.

Isn't it contradiction when .onion version of your website make request from fonts.googleapis.com and fonts.gstatic.com? I don't know much about it's privacy implication, but i believe it's enough to make privacy conscious person to seek different mixing service.

Hi Little Mouse! Indeed, our commissions are among the lowest on the market. The total majority of mixers today have commissions starting from 0.5%. And for a considerable number of mixers, they even start at 1%.
As for your misunderstanding about PureMixer code, we have prepared for you and all readers a short FAQ on this topic:

How is the mixing code arranged and how does it work ?

- We mark transactions with a unique identifier. It is the marking of transactions that allows our system to recognize and distinguish your funds from all other funds in the pool, which prevents the receipt of previously deposited coins when using PureMixer again. Each incoming transaction into the PureMixer pool, accordingly, is already tied to a PureMixer code. And it will remain marked on the address in our pool (to which your deposit eventually arrived) until a certain point.(up to what specific moment , see below) *

Could the mixing code undermine your privacy?

Important! PureMixer code is assigned only to transactions! neither to your IP addresses*, nor to your dates*, nor to your wallet from which you deposited into the mixer*, nor to your wallet for receiving funds from the mixer*. Consequently, there is NO direct linkage of PureMixer code to the service user himself and his personal data.
****Reminder: PureMixer does not maintain and does not collect any logs and information that can somehow be associated with the user. All information is immediately erased from the servers upon completion of the service. The service fully adheres to the no logs principle.

Will your PureMixer code be saved in the database ?
-Not for long.

* The address in the pool that has accepted your funds will sooner or later use them up on other customers of the service who have come afterwards. Your code will not be passed on to customers who will receive your funds in the future, as it is unique. The code will simply be exhausted. Consequently, in the base and from the data regarding PureMixer code, which were INDIRECTLY connected with you, in the end - there will be nothing left.

I think this is the smallest problem that the OP has, considering all the other "doubts" that have already been raised in this thread. The fact that the OP obviously does not understand the difference between Legacy and SegWit, given that he uses the former, perhaps speaks volumes about the technical savvy and seriousness of the project.

It is more than obvious that recently there has been a real mix fever in which everyone wants their piece of the cake - and that means that we cannot expect everyone to be professional in what they do.

Every mixer platform (such as [banned mixer] for example) has already provided proof of reserves in the early phase. So, I don't see anything of wrong if you also do it. This will help community to trust you, and here there

are many users (like LoyceV, filippone, and few others) that are really really trusted and can verify your reserves. How community can know your strength? How can I know if I can mix 1 or 1000 BTC simply by using your

platform if you don't have reserves to mix my Bitcoin?

Your statements are highly misleading, to put it mildly. You must be well aware of the fundamental difference between a legitimately constructed, cryptographically signed, and publicly verifiable "Letter of Guarantee," and the arbitrary, random code generated by your system. There's no middle ground here: if you're aware of the difference, then you're blatantly lying to the community, and if you're not, then you're nothing but a bunch of incompetent amateurs who don't belong in this industry.


That's not true either.

This is my Order number key:17u3HP95Zunjep6hpo3XRkTJJzdwUgkw. What exactly does it prove? How can I independently verify this?

This is BS. Change is received instantly, and unconfirmed change can be spent from your own wallet.

This is a lie!
Your entire website relies on trust. If you lie about things I can check, I bet you also lie about things I can't check.

Your "number" proves nothing to the outside world.

You just lied to me. I have no reason to believe anything you say.

The Letter of Guarantee helps prevent the next victim by exposing a scam. If you're not willing to provide one, that means you don't want victims to have hard evidence like in this exit scam.

You're missing the point, but I'm pretty sure that's intentional.

I couldn't care less about your "number". It's meaningless.

Nice try to be condescending. I don't trust you. And I advise anyone not to use your website.

Hello, LoyceV! The order number key function is identical to the letter of guarantee function - in case of problems or disputes, this will be your personal and only proof that a certain transaction in the mixer belongs to you. Of course, there is no scam here. In addition, if problems or disputes arise, the letter of guarantee will testify and be proof that your ownership right (in this case, bitcoins) was sent to the service and at the moment of misunderstanding is in it, and not with you or anywhere else. BUT IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE a REFUND of these funds, as you yourself mentioned, if the operator turns out to be a fraud and decides to appropriate your coins. To sum up: the letter of guarantee guarantees the evidence base of the actual location of your funds in the service, but not their return back to you.There are no additional risks for customers due to the order number key, once again - there is not and cannot be. Perhaps you just don't understand how this element functions. Well, dear LoyceV, we will tell and describe both to you and to all other outside observers how the order number key works in the system, because we are here for this:

After filling out the mixing order form and confirming it, a mixing order is created. At this moment, the Order Number Key is automatically generated, assigned and attached to it (the order) to all other data you have entered, respectively. In other words, order number key combines and becomes one with all the information about your order, and, accordingly, it is broadcast on our servers together with it. Order number key is unique.

Hello Gianluca95! The minimum amount for performing the mixing service is: 0.001 BTC, and the maximum amount for today is 56 BTC. But the maximum value of 56 BTC may vary (downwards). This is because our system automatically displays to the client, who is on the payment page, the liquid amount available at the current time period. This may be due to the fact that, for example, PureMixer has successfully sent a transaction to the client, but has not yet received the change. As practice shows, this is quite a frequent phenomenon, since the turnover of transactions into and out of the mixer is quite frequent.

As for your offer to provide confirmation of reserves, unfortunately, this contradicts our strict privacy policy. The service was created and is intended for anonymization and privacy of digital traces in the blockchain. Therefore, in our opinion, it will be ridiculous and uncharacteristic if the service for providing such services does not adhere to them itself. We are convinced that if the two sides are equally strict about the caution and privacy of their affairs, then the result will be appropriate. We call it "rules of business hygiene." More about this and about our strict privacy policy in general, you will be able to find out very soon in our telegram channel. We are preparing a post on this topic. We perfectly understand your distrust and wariness towards us today - this is normal, because we are a business in the field of finance, and not in the field of children's toys. But just give us a little time, and we promise that you will change your opinions about PureMixer for the better, because that's where we're going.

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Hello, LeGaulois! We would not call this a contradiction, but rather an exception. The fact is that during our 4 months of existence, we have faced a number of different problems directly in practice, namely:

a) Problems with trust in the project. In general, it is understandable, because there is not much information about us due to the specifics of the organization. And so, in the future, when users have any doubts before using the mixer, they will be able to go to this branch and read various kinds of discussions, like the one that is happening now and already visualize everything much clearer.

b) In view of the first point and the fact that the site of our mixer itself does not have any detailed explanation in detail, and in the Telegram channel we have not yet physically had time to post posts that would exhaust many questions. Because of this, we had to constantly answer many users' questions in considerable volumes, of course, describing and explaining how our product works. This, let's be honest, turned out to be very tedious.

c) Well, another reason why we found it necessary to come to this forum is that we really believe that we have created a good and effective tool, but you, crypto enthusiasts from all over the world and with a huge background in this area, will be able to help us bring PureMixer closer to the status of the best in the world.

Welcome to the forum

I just checked out the website, not that it matters so much, but the information is scattered in huge letter across the home page, making it easy to ignore. Very huge letters always feel so intimidating to the eyes

I suggest you redesign the home page, put in some more additional information such as FAQs for users who access your site minus looking at your ANN in this forum

To be fair, they haven't claimed that their service charges the lowest fees in the market. They say PureMixer commissions are among the lowest on the market. Pay attention to the wording.

Did you mean PureMixer service fee is among the lowest on the market? I don't intend to promote whirlwind in my post but they offer free mixing and that's donation based as we have seen with ChipMixer. Although whirlwind is doing this as an experiment for the next 3 months.
PureMixer code can ensure that any user won't be receiving his BTC accidentally. That's great. I'm not really an expert here but what will you record here? Say my PureMixer code is- ABCDEF

So, whenever I will put this code, you will ensure me that any previous tx from me won't be sent to me. So, you are recording all of my bitcoin send/receive address under the PureMixer code ABCDEF? Am I right? So, you may not have any clue who am I but you will surely know a lot of my addresses, I mean ABCDEF owns all these addresses. Can you please explain it more because I'm not an expert here as I said?

I totally agree with LoyceV here! The Letter of Guarantee is a thing for a reason. It's like a formal promise that someone will fulfill their part of the deal. It's pretty handy in situations where there's a lot of risk or uncertainty involved.

@PureMixerio, how do you expect your customers to prove their deposit in the event of a dispute? An order number key serves no purpose because it proves nothing and you can easily claim that it is fake.



What happens if the transaction is not confirmed within 72 hours, which can very easily happen in the case of sending with a low transaction fee?

What is new that this service offers? Your idea is found in most mixing services at lower or equal prices, with the possibility of increasing the time up to 200 hours, not 45 hours.

The deposit address is Legacy address - P2PKH, which means that you will pay a lot of fees as mining fees.

I tried to test the addresses accepted by your service and found that you do not accept the Taproot address - P2TR

The website design is poor and some pages are slow to load.

You do know the purpose of a Letter of Guarantee, right? It's so the user has hard evidence in case you don't deliver. A "unique number" proves nothing. I can think of only one reason for not providing one: it helps cover up a potential scam. If you have good intentions, why risk people thinking this way?

You can do that with a Letter of Guarantee too

It's better now :-D

Boring.

As soon a new mixer creates a topic, you immediatly see replies such as
- "advertising campaign!"
- "here is my service!"
- "you're new"

LMAO

What about talking about to mix bitcoins? The tech, the market, etc...

@PureMixerio

contradicting  

Hi there sir and welcome on Bitcointalk.org !

Congratulation for your activity and I hope that you'll platform will do many good things !

Do you have thought also about marketing strategy for your site? My advice to you is to organize something of cool in terms of advertising here (a signature campaign would be the perfect example) in way to let your

company known from everyone. Also, how many BTC you can mix for every transaction? Are you available to provide a proof of reserves?

Official and valid links to PureMixer leading directly to the original service:

Clearnet: /]https://[banned mixer]/
TOR: http://[banned mixer]/

PureMixer's official sources:

Telegram channel: https://t.me/PureMixerNews
Technical support: [email protected]
Personal technical support (tg id): @PM_bitcoinmixer / Session: 05913fd9cc9a0bb26ebd30f200bc12e184886e32dd807039038f11810625b69036

For cooperation also contact us at: [email protected] or in Telegram: @PM_bitcoinmixer  or in Session: (ID) 05913fd9cc9a0bb26ebd30f200bc12e184886e32dd807039038f11810625b69036

important!
We are not responsible for your funds that have been stolen by fraudulent clones [banned mixer]. Save all the above links/sources, and use only them!

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Service PureMixer.io in detail:

• PureMixer is an unregistered company
  
  
• Own strict privacy policy
  
  
• Practicing the absolute no log principle
  
  
• The ability to connect directly with one of the PureMixer developers in person on the most anonymous messengers (see source above)
  
  
• PureMixer is built entirely by hand. The service does not contain any constructors or frameworks
  
  
• Our structure is in no way related to CoinJoin technology! The service practices classical mixing, the main goal of which is not obfuscation, but to completely break the links between your transactions before and after mixing, thereby preventing further blockchain tracing
  
  
• Supports VPN
  
  
• PureMixer commissions are among the lowest on the market
  
  
• The commissions end not in round values, but in pennies
  
  
• Availability of PureMixer code (mixing code)
  
  
• Integrated Letter of guarantee
  
  
• We store information about INCOMPLETE transactions for 168 hours to assist users in case of need, and delete this information instantly after 168 hours
  
  
• We run a Telegram channel that publishes all the news, events and information related to PureMixer (a must-read, see source above)
  
  
• Ability to add multiple Bitcoin addresses to receive (up to 10)
  
  
• The ability to manually set the delay for each recipient address individually
  
  
• The ability to distribute as a percentage the entire deposit amount in parts, also individually to each recipient's address up to hundredths of %
  
  
• The ability of the service to set an additional randomized delay of several minutes (random delta) to the main delay selected by the user
  
  
• The ability to set a delay up to 168 hours
  

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  warning!
  Service [banned mixer] does not clear coins! PureMixer cleans your history and related data, thereby interrupting malicious surveillance by third parties, which, accordingly, prevents the deanonymization of your funds and your identity. In other words, PureMixer separates your dossier from yourself and leaves it in the past while providing a completely new one. In view of this, we strongly recommend that you first check the funds received at the recipient's address for the presence of a low or acceptable risk coefficient (AML check) by various methods at your discretion (for example, in AML bots), and only then send them to the CEX. If necessary, you can repeat the mixing service to achieve the desired result.
  
  
  
  
  Be with a pure dossier, be with PureMixer