Topic: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️ - page 15. (Read 25181 times)

I've started the mixing process and already sent the coins.

How does the random time delay works? I've tried different devices, browsers, IPs and I'm always getting 6 hours.

Just a few quick suggestions:

- Lower your fees. Seriously. There are at least 6 other mixers with a better well-design website, a better reputation, more features and better fees than yours. 5% is a steal.
- Let the user choose his delay time. Sometimes he may be in a hurry and don't want to wait 6~8 hours.
- Let the user add more than one output and choose a delay and percentage of the mixed coins for each address. More options and customization should be a must for every mixer.
- Add a mixing ID or something like this so the user can track his mixing order. It should be also available on the Letter of Guarantee.

Btw, you say that you can mix amounts as big as 50BTC per request, so why are you so afraid of giving 0.001BTC to a couple of users? It's not about being an "eternal generator of BTC", but there were a few mixers giving 0.01BTC per review to ~20 users, while you're looking to give 0.0013BTC per review to only 5 users. That does not give me the security of you having that much money.

I'll update my post when I receive my coins in ~6 hours.

Edit: got my coins in 2 separated transactions.

Hi, vit05. You are #4 in the list. I will inform you as soon as send coins for testing. Thank you for your readiness.

Hi, TryNinja. We've sent you 0,0013 btc. Thank you in advance.

Hi, khaled0111 we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. That includes 0,001 btc for test and rest for network fee. We would highly appreciate your feedback on the work of our mixer. Feel free to publish it in this thread

I could test your Mixer too.

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I’ve seen the PM you sent me. I can test and give you a honest feedback about your service when I arrive home later today.

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Hi FleurTunisienne, we've just sent you 0,0013 btc. That includes some reserve for network fee to send 0,001 btc for test. We would highly appreciate your feedback on the work of our bitcoin mixer. Feel free to publish it in this thread

You are #3 in the list. We will send coins for test drive shortly. 

Dear Elena, unfortunately your current rank on bitcointalk is too low to add some reputational value to [banned mixer]. Sorry for probably being a little bit straightforward, but according to our recent internal decision we offer this opportunity only for first five bitcointalk members requested a free trial with the rank 'member' or higher.

Dear members of bitcointalk forum!

After receiving several requests / proposals for testing [banned mixer] in exchange for honest feedback published in this thread, we decided to put this process simple and transparent.

Here is our offer - we will send 0,001 BTC (plus amount to cover network fees) to first five bitcointalk members requested a free trial with the rank 'member' or higher.

Nobody would destroy his reputation stealing 6$ worth of btc; tiping feedbackers is a common methods used by newcome-mixers to get direct feedback after testing. I tried this twice before with two of your competitors (check my post history). You can choose only reputable users to try the mixer. I will try it and leave an honest review if you send the required amount for one session.
BTC address: 18upXuJUJsYQ128NpjabdgP77bKexqJbU5

i will test and leave honest feedback 1BraLZttHhyRQH1hRS2vTXVDWpyjvJxC8K

We offer a free trial of our mixer with 0.001 BTC for users to test it, to make sure it works and that it meets their requirements. We are not an eternal generator of BTC's to give everyone even that small amount of cryptocurrency.
We believe that a free test drive of [banned mixer] is convenient for end users. 0.001 BTC is a small amount of money, so there is no sense to steal it. Even our development costs are much more than that sum.
Our clients benefit from using a free trial - sometimes psychologically to decide to test mixing service on such a small amount is not that risky, these coins will still return to them. And having estimated quality of cleansing and convenience, it is possible make a decision whether  to work with us for bigger sums or not.
Since you are hero member of bitcointalk we can provide you for a test with 0,001 BTC if you want, but only in return for your honest feedback, published here.

The thing is that even if it’s such a low amount (0.001), no one can trust you. Also, what do we get by testing uour mixer? We just lose money (transaction fees) and time. Every other mixer sends a small tip so the user can test the mixer, review and keep the money.

MixTum's free trial option works in the following way. Customer sends his 0,001 btc to our mixer, we send him 0,001 btc back which were cleansed through the chain of stock exchanges and charge no commission for that. We issue a letter of guarantee for each order / transaction. This is a test drive allowing the customer to check how [banned mixer] works.

How does this work? You want people to test your mixer with their own 0.001BTC? And if they do, what do they get?

Or are you giving 0.001BTC to the users so they can test it? After all, you don't have any reputation.

If it's the second option, I'm in: 1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L

If you have been looking into crypto currency tumbling services and kinda wondering if any of those is worth your trust, here is a chance for you to take a free ride and find out.

[banned mixer] does a great job obfuscating crypto traces and preserving your digital privacy rights. Our mixing service ensures the highest quality of coins coming from stock exchanges and / or miners. These coins are verified and then randomly distributed to end users so to up the anonymity level. Clean and anonymous. And on top of that, free to try out.

Below, we are going to detail a few requirements for free trial users:
- the transaction amount has to be 0,001 BTC (not less or more),
- only one forward address can be used.

Needless to say, we store no logs and provide a letter of guarantee as a proof of work. Grab your chance to try [banned mixer] service and cleanse your coins with 0 commission. Feel free to fire your questions here or at [email protected].

Very few mixers present in the market can offer this level of bitcoin anonymization. Customers of [banned mixer] are BTC holders who value a high level of cleansing, value their anonymity and do not want to mess with other's money of questionable origin.

It is incorrect to compare the cost of [banned mixer] services with the cost of classic mixers services. We can only say that the cost of our services also includes interest for attracting external investors from cryptocurrency stock exchanges and the cost of using the Jambler.io platform infrastructure that provides us with everything necessary for implementation of a mixing process.

We consider the cost of our service to be adequate to the level of anonymization that we offer.

Hello, here are our comments to your thoughts:

1. We disagree with this statement. We use a fundamentally different approach to anonymizing bitcoins and provide a different level of cleansing to our customers. We do not mix bitcoins in one or several pots; we get coins from a large number of independent investors from various cryptocurrency stock exchanges. All financial resources, received by the platform undergo a scoring procedure that checks their belonging to reliable stock exchanges.

2. We have a unified code for Clearnet and TOR versions of the website. Yes, you are correct, we use JavaScript. The reason for this is better website usability. You are absolutely right that people with security/anonymity/privacy concerns are quite sensitive to such things. We are going to explore the possibility of completely or partially removing JavaScript.
In case of increased security requirements, we recommend our customers to use our TOR mirror mixtum5lbuslyow2.onion and disable JavaScript by default. That is all I can tell you in this situation.

3. We check all input money from stock exchanges using the platform Jambler.io, on the basis of which our mixer is built. The platform implements scoring algorithms that enable funds of dubious origin to enter the platform. For providing clean money, investors receive a commission, and this ensures a constant inflow of the necessary amount of funds from independent investors.
We do not store logs, there is no connection between investors and customers, we do not have a pool of funds in which investors' and customers' money is mixed. We are not exposed to risks of this kind.

Hello. Thank you for your interest in our mixer. We have created it on the basis of the platform Jambler.io that provides efficient mixing algorithms and access to proven funds from cryptocurrency stock exchanges.

Frankly speaking, we were sceptical as well at the very beginning. Before launching our mixer, we studied the market for a long time, analyzed the existing classical mixers, identified bottlenecks in their mixing models. We were getting desperate to launch our project, when suddenly we came across the platform Jambler.io.

Once we have thoroughly tested it and become sure of the declared capabilities of the system, we decided to stay with Jambler.io. The problems you have defined refer to classical mixers, and [banned mixer] is exempt of such problems.

Let’s assume that investors A and B send us money from a stock exchange to our transit wallets A1 and B1, they do not know who will receive this money. As you know, stock exchanges are in fact big mixers that accumulate funds in their wallets. And their turnover is bigger than any mixer has, that ensures good mixing and purity of transactions. Besides, the wallet for replenishment and withdrawal from most exchanges, is not the same. When customer C comes, he sends us money to a transit wallet C1. After that, the money is sent to the customer in some random parts from the wallets A1 and B1. Moreover, wallets are selected according to several features, one of which is the zeroing of the transit wallet, so that there is no change left.

And now let's imagine that there are a lot of customers and investors, thus a particular investor and a customer are not just exchanging their money. Investor A can receive funds from customer D, C, F. And customer C can receive funds from investors A and Q.

Under these circumstances, the deanonymization process of the client's funds is very complicated, in our opinion it is impossible in practice. Even we do not know beforehand who will receive whose money. To improve stability, various algorithms are used, for example, the algorithm of the zeroing of the transit wallet, which allows minimizing the possibility of research, using cluster analysis.

Unlike classic mixers, we do not have a link in the blockchain between the investor and the client. Given the large number of independent investors and customers, our stability increases greatly.

As you know, stock exchanges require KYC, have withdrawal limits and are against the situation of one user having several accounts. Therefore, the cleansing technology of large amounts of money through stock exchanges using only their accounts is extremely difficult. [banned mixer] solves such problems, buys output transactions through Jambler.io from independent investors, and resells them to its customers.

We are not a classic mixer, we do not have the problem of 'dirty coins at the entrance = dirty coins at the exit, but only someone else's.' We do not need to use the 'mixer codes' so that a person does not get their money back when recleansing.

It is for these reasons that [banned mixer] does not compete with classical mixers, customers who care about anonymization without risk and high level of cleansing choose us.