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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on May 01, 2024, 10:23:33 AM

if I am not wrong and the debate is actually should be why he is not in reserves when Gill is there.

BCCI has a weird fetish for all format players. One of the reasons they are backing the likes of Jaiswal and Gill.

The latter is blue eyed boy for BCCI, although his stocks were going down in the test format and there were murmurs of him getting dropped and playing more Ranji matches but he managed to come back strongly in the last 3 test matches he played against England.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 01, 2024, 10:46:31 AM

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I am surprised to see that there is suddenly a lot of comparison going on between Gaikwad and Jaiswal. In my opinion, Jaiswal is far superior to Gaikwad because he has proven himself to be a dominant player in all three formats of cricket. On the other hand, Gaikwad has only made a surprise comeback in the IPL. It is important to note that performing well in the IPL doesn't necessarily guarantee success in an ICC event.

I doubt Kohli will leave his position where he has batted so well. I think Jaiswal and Rohit will be the opening pair, but I am still skeptical about Rohit's performance after the defeat in the ODI World Cup. This will be his last World Cup as captain, and I feel he will somehow make a comeback. If not, it will go against him.

Gaikwad also performed well post WC loss, and we should not forget he score 120 runs against Australia and also he performed well inf AFG series, if I am not wrong and the debate is actually should be why he is not in reserves when Gill is there.

Kohli coming at no 3 will allow room for Jaiswal to open but it will disturb everyone else's batting order and Hardik coming at no 7 will not be effective at all so Jaiswal will not have chances to open unless Ro-Ko combination fails.

I was browsing through some recent posts on Reddit and I learned that the International Cricket Council (ICC) has given all respective boards until the 25th of this month to make any further changes to their respective squads. Is this true? If so, we may see some exclusions and a few new inclusions in the current squad. However, I still don't believe that Gaikwad will make it onto the team. If he does, he will be a lucky player. I still think that Rinku Singh should be included and Shivam Dubey should be part of the team. The BCCI should exclude a few bowlers such as Arshdeep Singh to include Rinku as he as a bowler and Aversh Khan are the worst that the team needs.

I don't see any news in the cricbuzz site about the extension of date to make changes in the squad but likely what you said is true cause PCB yet to announce their Squad and in X I can see they will be announced by May 23rd, so yeah that's good to correct the mistake of excluding Rinku, and extra spinner that should be occupied by one more pacer cause it's zero possibility that India will play any match with 3 spinners combination. Also Hardik should justify his selection with some performance.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on May 01, 2024, 10:23:33 AM

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I am surprised to see that there is suddenly a lot of comparison going on between Gaikwad and Jaiswal. In my opinion, Jaiswal is far superior to Gaikwad because he has proven himself to be a dominant player in all three formats of cricket. On the other hand, Gaikwad has only made a surprise comeback in the IPL. It is important to note that performing well in the IPL doesn't necessarily guarantee success in an ICC event.

I doubt Kohli will leave his position where he has batted so well. I think Jaiswal and Rohit will be the opening pair, but I am still skeptical about Rohit's performance after the defeat in the ODI World Cup. This will be his last World Cup as captain, and I feel he will somehow make a comeback. If not, it will go against him.

Gaikwad also performed well post WC loss, and we should not forget he score 120 runs against Australia and also he performed well inf AFG series, if I am not wrong and the debate is actually should be why he is not in reserves when Gill is there.

Kohli coming at no 3 will allow room for Jaiswal to open but it will disturb everyone else's batting order and Hardik coming at no 7 will not be effective at all so Jaiswal will not have chances to open unless Ro-Ko combination fails.

I was browsing through some recent posts on Reddit and I learned that the International Cricket Council (ICC) has given all respective boards until the 25th of this month to make any further changes to their respective squads. Is this true? If so, we may see some exclusions and a few new inclusions in the current squad. However, I still don't believe that Gaikwad will make it onto the team. If he does, he will be a lucky player. I still think that Rinku Singh should be included and Shivam Dubey should be part of the team. The BCCI should exclude a few bowlers such as Arshdeep Singh to include Rinku as he as a bowler and Aversh Khan are the worst that the team needs.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 01, 2024, 09:32:22 AM

I am surprised to see that there is suddenly a lot of comparison going on between Gaikwad and Jaiswal. In my opinion, Jaiswal is far superior to Gaikwad because he has proven himself to be a dominant player in all three formats of cricket. On the other hand, Gaikwad has only made a surprise comeback in the IPL. It is important to note that performing well in the IPL doesn't necessarily guarantee success in an ICC event.

I doubt Kohli will leave his position where he has batted so well. I think Jaiswal and Rohit will be the opening pair, but I am still skeptical about Rohit's performance after the defeat in the ODI World Cup. This will be his last World Cup as captain, and I feel he will somehow make a comeback. If not, it will go against him.

Gaikwad also performed well post WC loss, and we should not forget he score 120 runs against Australia and also he performed well inf AFG series, if I am not wrong and the debate is actually should be why he is not in reserves when Gill is there.

Kohli coming at no 3 will allow room for Jaiswal to open but it will disturb everyone else's batting order and Hardik coming at no 7 will not be effective at all so Jaiswal will not have chances to open unless Ro-Ko combination fails.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 01, 2024, 09:11:32 AM

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Don't know but you cannot put your full faith in the openers and the middle order. Rohit and Jaiswal are out of form, Kohli can bat and can score runs if both openers are out early. SKY cannot be relied on that being said the whole team cannot be dependent on lower middle order and the tail. I doubt they will go wit a combination of six bowlers and all rounders, there will be a strategy again in place by Dravid and Sharma which we will come to know after the event starts. Although I still feel Jaiswal should have been dropped and Gaikwad should have been picked up as his replacement.

For starters, for this WC Gaikwad was not in the scheme of things and not because of some bias but there were already too many candidates and he was way down in the pecking order. His stocks went up recently.

Well, IMO they will go with 6 bowling combination and who knows if they decide to open with Rohit-Kohli, in that case, Jaiswal will sit out.

I am surprised to see that there is suddenly a lot of comparison going on between Gaikwad and Jaiswal. In my opinion, Jaiswal is far superior to Gaikwad because he has proven himself to be a dominant player in all three formats of cricket. On the other hand, Gaikwad has only made a surprise comeback in the IPL. It is important to note that performing well in the IPL doesn't necessarily guarantee success in an ICC event.

I doubt Kohli will leave his position where he has batted so well. I think Jaiswal and Rohit will be the opening pair, but I am still skeptical about Rohit's performance after the defeat in the ODI World Cup. This will be his last World Cup as captain, and I feel he will somehow make a comeback. If not, it will go against him.

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Quote from: elevates on May 01, 2024, 03:59:39 AM

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Don't know but you cannot put your full faith in the openers and the middle order. Rohit and Jaiswal are out of form, Kohli can bat and can score runs if both openers are out early. SKY cannot be relied on that being said the whole team cannot be dependent on lower middle order and the tail. I doubt they will go wit a combination of six bowlers and all rounders, there will be a strategy again in place by Dravid and Sharma which we will come to know after the event starts. Although I still feel Jaiswal should have been dropped and Gaikwad should have been picked up as his replacement.

For starters, for this WC Gaikwad was not in the scheme of things and not because of some bias but there were already too many candidates and he was way down in the pecking order. His stocks went up recently.

Well, IMO they will go with 6 bowling combination and who knows if they decide to open with Rohit-Kohli, in that case, Jaiswal will sit out.

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Today we have another important game which is between CSK and PBKS. It is an important game for CSK as they will need to win this game to keep themselves within the reach of being part of the playoffs.

Both MI and RCB are now out of the scene. Another bad year for MI as RCB has not become habitual of losing IPL. It looks like there will be a good competition this time between the top 4 teams according to the current point table to win this year cup.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 01, 2024, 03:11:49 AM

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Squad looks spin heavy and i am thinking about what would be playing XI. Jadeja and Axar won't play together, similarly, Chahal and Kuldeep won't feature together as well.

I consider Jadeja and Kuldeep to be first choice and in their absence Axar and Chahal can come in. Though, IMO Ravi Bishnoi is better than Chahal.

The combination with 2 seamers Bumrah and Siraj/Arshdeep + Seam allrounder Hardik + Spinner Kuldeep + 2 spin all-rounders Jadeja and Axar might be possible.

It gives you 6 bowling options and you can stack your batting line up where Axar coming at number 8. Shivam Dube can also chip in for at least 1 over, he needs to get back in action tho and I hope he's already bowling in the nets for the CSK.

Don't know but you cannot put your full faith in the openers and the middle order. Rohit and Jaiswal are out of form, Kohli can bat and can score runs if both openers are out early. SKY cannot be relied on that being said the whole team cannot be dependent on lower middle order and the tail. I doubt they will go wit a combination of six bowlers and all rounders, there will be a strategy again in place by Dravid and Sharma which we will come to know after the event starts. Although I still feel Jaiswal should have been dropped and Gaikwad should have been picked up as his replacement.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 30, 2024, 09:01:21 AM

Squad looks spin heavy and i am thinking about what would be playing XI. Jadeja and Axar won't play together, similarly, Chahal and Kuldeep won't feature together as well.

I consider Jadeja and Kuldeep to be first choice and in their absence Axar and Chahal can come in. Though, IMO Ravi Bishnoi is better than Chahal.

The combination with 2 seamers Bumrah and Siraj/Arshdeep + Seam allrounder Hardik + Spinner Kuldeep + 2 spin all-rounders Jadeja and Axar might be possible.

It gives you 6 bowling options and you can stack your batting line up where Axar coming at number 8. Shivam Dube can also chip in for at least 1 over, he needs to get back in action tho and I hope he's already bowling in the nets for the CSK.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 30, 2024, 09:01:21 AM

Squad looks spin heavy and i am thinking about what would be playing XI. Jadeja and Axar won't play together, similarly, Chahal and Kuldeep won't feature together as well.

I consider Jadeja and Kuldeep to be first choice and in their absence Axar and Chahal can come in. Though, IMO Ravi Bishnoi is better than Chahal.

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on April 30, 2024, 11:00:23 AM

This might be the final run of those three veterans in ICC events.

I like to believe Kohli will continue playing untill 2028 Olympics.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on April 30, 2024, 11:00:23 AM

This might be the final run of those three veterans in ICC events.

Three of the MI players who expected to be in playing XI of WC got out cheaply.

Exclusion of Rinku can't be justified at all, BCCI made a big error in picking the finsiher role player and 4 men spin attack looks unnecessary.

That's what everyone thought after last T-20 wc and Bcci actually started building new team as well, atleast it appeared on paper because senior players didnt feature in single t-20 match for like 16-18 months but just before the Ipl everyone joined the t-20 side against Afghanistan.

Win or lose, this time BCCI need to kick these seniors out of the team because they wont take voluntary retirement or willingly give spot to young player.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 30, 2024, 09:01:21 AM

^^ When the likes of Rohi, Kohli and Jadeja are in the lineup then you can't fit fresh faces in the squad.

Squad looks spin heavy and i am thinking about what would be playing XI. Jadeja and Axar won't play together, similarly, Chahal and Kuldeep won't feature together as well.

This might be the final run of those three veterans in ICC events.

Three of the MI players who expected to be in playing XI of WC got out cheaply.

Exclusion of Rinku can't be justified at all, BCCI made a big error in picking the finsiher role player and 4 men spin attack looks unnecessary.

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^^ When the likes of Rohi, Kohli and Jadeja are in the lineup then you can't fit fresh faces in the squad.

Squad looks spin heavy and i am thinking about what would be playing XI. Jadeja and Axar won't play together, similarly, Chahal and Kuldeep won't feature together as well.

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Quote from: elevates on April 30, 2024, 05:31:37 AM

Indian squad for T20 World Cup announced

As expected Virat Kohli, Sanju Samson, Rishab Pant are part of the team. Confused to see Hardik Pandya as a VC whereas he has been out of form in IPL 2024 and no KL Rahul in the squad.

I was expecting some fresh face in this ICC series, most of the names seen in this squad are out of form. For example Hardik Pandya, Arshdeep Sing, Rohit Sharma (he has to be included as he was announced the captain long back), Virat Kohli (SR is terrible for T20 class). SKY has not been that efficient after his injury and Avesh Khan again? What prompted the selectors to again include him as a probable? I doubt this team has anything to offer and trust me the Mumbai chief selector has gone nuts.

When India won the 2007 T20 World Cup, it was a new team filled with players who had a strong desire to win. However, the current team for the 2024 World Cup seems to have a different focus. Many of the players are more interested in securing their earnings for the upcoming IPL season than winning the tournament. I believe that Ajit Agarkar, the team selection committee member, has either lost his mind or is being paid by the franchise to select these players. Additionally, there is a considerable number of cricket players who have made Mumbai their home.

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Happy with WC squad and glad they didnt go back to kl and DK. I'd have like to add Rinku in 15 men's squad but can understand why he's not there ( fixed spot for Rohit and Kohli).

Abhishek Sharma was another worthy candidate for the backup opener but guess management still backing Gill.

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Indian squad for T20 World Cup announced

As expected Virat Kohli, Sanju Samson, Rishab Pant are part of the team. Confused to see Hardik Pandya as a VC whereas he has been out of form in IPL 2024 and no KL Rahul in the squad.

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^^ IMO It was actually a correct decision to bowl first because dew did come hard during 2nd inning.

Luckily for CSK, their bowlers, especially Jadeja manage to keep things tight with the wet ball. This is a tough thing to do and you need a ton of practice and there is no guarantee that it'll come off on any given day.

Jadeja is a specialist in spin bowling, if he doesn't contribute with the bat he contributes with his spin bowling. Tushar Deshpande was the main reason why SRH got wasted on that day he took 4 wickets in that match.

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^^ IMO It was actually a correct decision to bowl first because dew did come hard during 2nd inning.

Luckily for CSK, their bowlers, especially Jadeja manage to keep things tight with the wet ball. This is a tough thing to do and you need a ton of practice and there is no guarantee that it'll come off on any given day.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 29, 2024, 08:50:53 AM

^^ SRH turning out to be South Africa of IPL. In the last ODI WC, the latter were also ridiculously dominating when batting first and all lol & giggles while chasing the target.

Their batting style is also more suited for setting a target, instead of chasing when scoreboard pressure is on.

They dominate when they bat first, they collapse when chasing the target. Still they won the toss and choose to bowl first thinking they will easily chase the target set by CSK. The nightmare started when the CSK captain, Rituraj started to time the ball but unfortunately sucummed at 98 runs. He might have gotten overwhelmed with his timing and over confident with his abilities. The good news is that out of all the Indian batting prospects Shivam Dubey is still hitting the ball with full power and getting sixes. SRH can still make it into the playoffs if they don't make such mistakes in their next game.

Today LSG takes on MI and this match is very crucial for them as if they lose they might not qualify for the playoffs. MI if they win won't help them as they are at the bottom of the points table. But, they can spoil the ranking on the points table and that will make it easy for SRH.

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^^ SRH turning out to be South Africa of IPL. In the last ODI WC, the latter were also ridiculously dominating when batting first and all lol & giggles while chasing the target.

Their batting style is also more suited for setting a target, instead of chasing when scoreboard pressure is on.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on April 28, 2024, 09:19:07 AM

Apart from RCB everyone has their own fate of getting into top 4 in their hands. And RCB might have an outside chance of they win their remaining 4 matches with great NRR and other team results might favour them.

My top 4 as of now, RR, SRH, KKR and CSK.

CSK vs SRH is live at the moment, probably the deciding match of their playoff chances.

CSK started slow, and I don't know why Rahane is still given chance when he is clearly not in the form not just in IPL ever since Ranchi.

I also feel that these four should easily go into the playoffs but I think SRH's weak point is chasing runs. They again got defeated by CSK under pressure to get 200-odd runs. The problem with their batters is that they bat well when they want to create a target for the opponent team but they lack the ability to chase. Flat pitches have made it easy for batters to bat this year. CSK vs SRH again was a batting paradise for the team that won the toss.

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