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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 10, 2021, 02:50:49 PM

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

This is the worst that you can do to yourself gambling without a job to support you, and even if you have a job at least don't be a compulsive gambler, protect yourself at all times, don't get into a trap where you loses control of yourself, your story is not the worse there are worse gamblers and take them years to rehabilitate themselves, and they lose good years of their lives.

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Quote from: peter0425 on April 13, 2021, 02:10:48 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on April 10, 2021, 02:50:49 PM

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

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Not Unless you will Rob a Bank or Scam other people there is no way that a Jobless can still gamble . So this advise is clearly not the one we are talking here.

I was a Active or better called Addicted gambler in the past but i never did gamble whenever i have no Job or at least stopped from my Work.

Logically, it is true that if we don't have a job, how to get capital to play gambling. But I have a friend who doesn't have a job, but is always
active playing gambling every week. It turned out that after I investigated my friend got money to play gambling from borrowed money,
in which he pawned his vehicle to earn money. And also my friend sold some of his parents inheritance to be able to play gambling. Sometimes
people if they are addicted to gambling, do things that are self-defeating. I have tried to advise him, but the person is stubborn and does not
listen to advice from others.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 10, 2021, 02:50:49 PM

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

Thank You

Not Unless you will Rob a Bank or Scam other people there is no way that a Jobless can still gamble . So this advise is clearly not the one we are talking here.

I was a Active or better called Addicted gambler in the past but i never did gamble whenever i have no Job or at least stopped from my Work.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 12, 2021, 10:45:51 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 12, 2021, 10:25:35 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 12, 2021, 09:53:25 PM

The problem is that I think OP is having a hard time changing things for the better because I am sure that he/she is pressured to pay off the debt as fast as possible, it is easy to say that they change for the better but OP has to have the strength to change himself/herself because if there was an intervention and OP isn't ready, I am sure that he/she will have a high chance of relapse.

With that huge debt, I think he can be depressed and maybe he can not think about what he must do. We can hope that someone besides him can know that he really needs help and attention from people around him. @OP needs to admit and have the courage to tell other people about his situations to figure out how to clean the mess. I do not think it will easy after what he's done. Being a responsible gambler will not easy as we know that there is tempting from the games that can drag us to play longer.

That is a pretty far fetch assumption that OP is going to suffer depression, it is not a joke. I believe that they can only be helped if they at the least want to be helped but right now. It is not going to be easy, any mess that you want to get out of is definitely going to be messy, if it isn't then you are doing something wrong.

That is not a joke. If your mind always thinks about something, that can affect your body, and in the end, that can make you depressed because of what you think. If your debt to someone, you will get pressured to pay off the debt as fast as possible, and if you can not pay the debt, they will hunt you without stop and make you insecure. Your mind will think about how to solve that, but you can not get the right way to do it, and if you get the same situations for some time, that can make you depressed. Yes, help from other people will always be the way for that person to get out of the problem. Maybe sharing with other people can give you the way.

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Quote from: Ulven on April 10, 2021, 09:51:49 PM

Sorry for your story man, gambling is not a guaranteed profitable activity, it is only an entertainment area !! I advise you to stay away from gambling activities and try to find work. Make a plan for your life again. Don't think about getting more loans, but try to count on yourself and work hard.

This is the right set of advice for a Gambler.( Cool

Gambling can’t and shouldn’t be a platform for Income generation. It’s just a platform for leisure. I am a Gambler too but a very disciplined one. Gambling directly involves a little patience and calmness. Whether you’re a Beginner or a veteran, you need to stay calm and emotionally neutral when weighing up a betting prospect.

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Quote from: michellee on April 12, 2021, 10:25:35 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 12, 2021, 09:53:25 PM

The problem is that I think OP is having a hard time changing things for the better because I am sure that he/she is pressured to pay off the debt as fast as possible, it is easy to say that they change for the better but OP has to have the strength to change himself/herself because if there was an intervention and OP isn't ready, I am sure that he/she will have a high chance of relapse.

With that huge debt, I think he can be depressed and maybe he can not think about what he must do. We can hope that someone besides him can know that he really needs help and attention from people around him. @OP needs to admit and have the courage to tell other people about his situations to figure out how to clean the mess. I do not think it will easy after what he's done. Being a responsible gambler will not easy as we know that there is tempting from the games that can drag us to play longer.

That is a pretty far fetch assumption that OP is going to suffer depression, it is not a joke. I believe that they can only be helped if they at the least want to be helped but right now. It is not going to be easy, any mess that you want to get out of is definitely going to be messy, if it isn't then you are doing something wrong.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 12, 2021, 09:53:25 PM

Quote from: CarnagexD on April 12, 2021, 05:27:20 PM

Of course. You have to remember the first rule and the most important rule in gambling: "You will lose if you don't think". At least you owned up to your mistakes and discovered that it is indeed you who is at fault for the current situation you're in. I suggest you seek professional mental assistance, if you think you're already becoming addicted to gambling, which I honestly think you are considering you blew 35k all for gambling. After that, get a job, pay off your debt. and before you know it, you've already cleaned yourself out of your mess.

The problem is that I think OP is having a hard time changing things for the better because I am sure that he/she is pressured to pay off the debt as fast as possible, it is easy to say that they change for the better but OP has to have the strength to change himself/herself because if there was an intervention and OP isn't ready, I am sure that he/she will have a high chance of relapse.

With that huge debt, I think he can be depressed and maybe he can not think about what he must do. We can hope that someone besides him can know that he really needs help and attention from people around him. @OP needs to admit and have the courage to tell other people about his situations to figure out how to clean the mess. I do not think it will easy after what he's done. Being a responsible gambler will not easy as we know that there is tempting from the games that can drag us to play longer.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 12, 2021, 05:27:20 PM

Of course. You have to remember the first rule and the most important rule in gambling: "You will lose if you don't think". At least you owned up to your mistakes and discovered that it is indeed you who is at fault for the current situation you're in. I suggest you seek professional mental assistance, if you think you're already becoming addicted to gambling, which I honestly think you are considering you blew 35k all for gambling. After that, get a job, pay off your debt. and before you know it, you've already cleaned yourself out of your mess.

The problem is that I think OP is having a hard time changing things for the better because I am sure that he/she is pressured to pay off the debt as fast as possible, it is easy to say that they change for the better but OP has to have the strength to change himself/herself because if there was an intervention and OP isn't ready, I am sure that he/she will have a high chance of relapse.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 11, 2021, 04:47:43 PM

I'm sorry death69 but I have to disagree with you, trading isn't a "better place" as you said or a safer place than online casinos. You can lose huge amounts of money when you invest into cyptocurrencies because they are highly volatile and unpredictable.

There's no need to literally put up a bad meaning on what the user said. Let's use our common sense here.

It's definitely a no-brainer that someone won't think that trading isn't risky. The user just wants to give advice to OP that it's good to focus on trading instead of gambling because of what happened. Then while on trading, of course, we need to manage it well along the way and do everything to keep up with the volatility.

No you're wrong bro, many people don't know cryptos and trading and they arrive here from google, or are just brand new crypto users. Saying it's safe to trade and you can easily earn money this way could mislead them and could get them burnt because of that. Death69 literally advised Vaskiy to trade in order to make more money, that's not a good advice in my opinion, that's a dangerous one and you should be careful if you don't think so.

Quote from: death69 on April 11, 2021, 03:09:48 PM

~snip
And try to make $2000 in order to have an initial amount for trading. If you think you can trade, just do it. Trading is a better place than any online casino.

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So sorry to hear that.
But this is the real story about gambling, and you may be only one of them.
There may be many more people who are losing much onto gambling/ And fortunately you are aware right now and stop gambling.
It is good for you, many people are losing but they keep gambling in order to expect another winning but nothing.
We should always remember "Gamble as much as we can afford", not for forcing to get higher and higher amount again. Never think to get back the lost money in gambling because it will make us greedy.
So many lessons that can be taken from your real story.
And you are lucky because you can still think wisely, not ending up your life because that is not problem-solving.

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Of course. You have to remember the first rule and the most important rule in gambling: "You will lose if you don't think". At least you owned up to your mistakes and discovered that it is indeed you who is at fault for the current situation you're in. I suggest you seek professional mental assistance, if you think you're already becoming addicted to gambling, which I honestly think you are considering you blew 35k all for gambling. After that, get a job, pay off your debt. and before you know it, you've already cleaned yourself out of your mess.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 12, 2021, 09:56:04 AM

Quote from: acener on April 12, 2021, 03:48:14 AM

For it isn't just gambling be a responsible person not just a responsible gambler.
Learn to control yourself anything you do could lead to addiction and it isn't healthy for our own.
Know how to spend your money wisely don't overspend it on something that is unnecessary for you or your family,
You could enjoy yourself but learn to prioritize your needs.

Learn to balance it's very important, in everything you do make it sure that you are doing it appropriately. There are other types of
addictions, not only with gambling but also in other side of your life.

Being responsible gambler means controliing each emotions that you are going to use. KNowing when to stop and when to continue, most of the time people who lose control ends up regretting.

take every responsibilities and make sure your actions won't hurt you, but helps you instead in doing some efforts and enjoy your stay playing.

Know your balance or know your limits and know your priorities on which these kind of behavior would really be saving up yourself into lots of further troubles in life.

If you dont like to mess up your life then better to have this kind of mindset on where dealing up with something risky should be handled out correctly or else then it will surely be a disaster.

Dealing up with gambling isnt bad as long you do know your limits.People are just naturally born to be greedy and this is one of the hardest thing to be controlled
once you poked it out.

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Quote from: acener on April 12, 2021, 03:48:14 AM

For it isn't just gambling be a responsible person not just a responsible gambler.
Learn to control yourself anything you do could lead to addiction and it isn't healthy for our own.
Know how to spend your money wisely don't overspend it on something that is unnecessary for you or your family,
You could enjoy yourself but learn to prioritize your needs.

Learn to balance it's very important, in everything you do make it sure that you are doing it appropriately. There are other types of
addictions, not only with gambling but also in other side of your life.

Being responsible gambler means controliing each emotions that you are going to use. KNowing when to stop and when to continue, most of the time people who lose control ends up regretting.

take every responsibilities and make sure your actions won't hurt you, but helps you instead in doing some efforts and enjoy your stay playing.

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Quote from: Quidat on April 11, 2021, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on April 11, 2021, 04:49:17 PM

It is a profit making opportunity for the others but they're not too many at all. Those professionals that have dedicated their lives into gambling and that's their way of living. But for us, who just gambles whenever we want and whatever we feel, we're likely to say that it's not for profit. Once you've won, you'll just take the money and enjoy it and then when you think that you're lucky again, just gamble casually again but unlike the professionals. I agree that if he just did a different activity such as trading, there's a bigger chance that he had profited from it.

But the difference on trading is that profits doesnt materialized that too fast same on gambling where people would find it boring and majority of us is too impatient.
Hence, we treat on differently in between gambling activity and trading which it isnt just right to make out some comparison or similarities between them.
When it comes to finances then its up to someone who would able to manage.Risk is always there and we know that gambling does have higher risk on losing
those funds you do had but if you do look for entertainment or leisure then this wont really be much of an issue.

It's always going to be different if we're going to compare everyone's thought and idea about the treatment that we give in gambling and trading. They're always different in everyone's perspective and no one can argue the other is correct and the he's the one who's giving a wrong thought. What matters on this is the lesson that we should always be responsible in gambling and apply that principle too in trading and other activities that require it.

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Quote from: samcrypto on April 12, 2021, 08:05:47 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on April 10, 2021, 02:50:49 PM

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

Only greedy person will gamble even if he don't have money or any source of income, I wonder how you can able to borrow funds without having any collateral, that's too risky on the side of the lender. This kind of attitude in gambling is not good, many failed on this because they treat gambling as a real business.

The fact and reality.
Based on the numbers you had, it seems like you were able to build trust with people. Those numbers are hard to ask people. My point is, if they were able to lend you. Means that they trust you. That you can handle the money they lend, maybe they’ve seen something on you.

So, if that’s the case I don’t see any problem for you to recover. It seems like you were able to build yourself before. You can still rebuild but learn from your mistake. That’s one of the biggest lessons you had.

I hope you don’t lose hope and still keep going. Motivate people, stay gambling but for fun. I’ve been there and had the same experience. Our difference is that you’re stronger than me by being able to share it.

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Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2021, 07:57:52 AM

Quote from: stadus on April 12, 2021, 07:44:29 AM

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Making gambling a profession or a source of income is a very big mistake, especially using borrowed money to gamble.~snip~

I believe it's not, depending on your capability, if you know you have the skills to make money in gambling, why would not focus on it. As long as you believe that winning consistently in the long run is possibe, then maybe you should try, the only mistake is if you loss your control because you are not matured enough on what you are doing, but in general it's not really a bad idea to make gambling as a profession.

Perhaps, that can work for some people because many of them can not know their limit and still forcing themselves to win and make money. But they do not know how that will give them risk and will not have to wait for a long time to lose all of the money.

Gambling can be a profession only if that person knows how to treat gambling well. When you have good control in gambling, you can try to gamble but never forget always to take control in the next rounds, especially if you can win a streak in a day. If you can get a winning streak, perhaps, you need to stop gamble for the next round before losing that win money.

That's what I'm saying, there's always a condition, or the "IF", and that's my reply to people who are generalizing that gambling should not be treated as a souce of income or as a profession beacuse they have no idea how to be a professional gambler.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 10, 2021, 02:50:49 PM

Important Note : If you're jobless don't get into gambling, I'm an example. I don't have a job, and that's the reason I wasn't able to keep me deviated from gambling. Hope this helps someone.

Only greedy person will gamble even if he don't have money or any source of income, I wonder how you can able to borrow funds without having any collateral, that's too risky on the side of the lender. This kind of attitude in gambling is not good, many failed on this because they treat gambling as a real business.

Quote from: Slow death on April 12, 2021, 07:45:39 AM

the loan the person should only make in cases of:

1 - serious illness

2 - to do business

I have to agree on borrowing money for the purpose of doing business but I don't think you should borrow if you've serious illness better to use insurance and your savings than to borrow money, its hard to look for money if you're not capable of paying it, so better to be prepared when serious illness comes don't think of borrowing money.

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Quote from: stadus on April 12, 2021, 07:44:29 AM

As long as you believe that winning consistently in the long run is possibe, then maybe you should try, the only mistake is if you loss your control because you are not matured enough on what you are doing, but in general it's not really a bad idea to make gambling as a profession.

There cannot be any definite conclusion for this because it is purely depending on individuals hence we cannot say making gambling as a profession is a good idea or not. But based on the statistics, how many people are finding chances/methods to reach what they are dreaming out of gambling then we should avoid gambling to adopt as a profession. Because, less than 1% people are successful in gambling in professional way.

Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2021, 07:57:52 AM

When you have good control in gambling, you can try to gamble but never forget always to take control in the next rounds, especially if you can win a streak in a day.

But I'm emphasizing the reciprocal thing; if you have a good control then do not take gambling up to the level of adopting it as a profession; with the help of your self-control always keep gambling as an entertaining tool alone. In my opinion, only the gamblers who are not good in self-control getting into in full-time and then assuming it as a profession regardless of its profitability.

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Quote from: stadus on April 12, 2021, 07:44:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Making gambling a profession or a source of income is a very big mistake, especially using borrowed money to gamble.~snip~

I believe it's not, depending on your capability, if you know you have the skills to make money in gambling, why would not focus on it. As long as you believe that winning consistently in the long run is possibe, then maybe you should try, the only mistake is if you loss your control because you are not matured enough on what you are doing, but in general it's not really a bad idea to make gambling as a profession.

Perhaps, that can work for some people because many of them can not know their limit and still forcing themselves to win and make money. But they do not know how that will give them risk and will not have to wait for a long time to lose all of the money.

Gambling can be a profession only if that person knows how to treat gambling well. When you have good control in gambling, you can try to gamble but never forget always to take control in the next rounds, especially if you can win a streak in a day. If you can get a winning streak, perhaps, you need to stop gamble for the next round before losing that win money.

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the loan the person should only make in cases of:

1 - serious illness

2 - to do business

in my opinion gambling is a great temptation, one always struggles with oneself not to fall into temptation, but there are differences in gambling. for example in the case of sports betting the risk is lower and in the case of slot or dice games the risk of losing money is greater. in case the person starts to have losing streak the person must stop playing for some time, one should not think that he will be able to recover the losses in a short time, he has to remain calm and manage the bankroll well. if the person doesn’t have money then don’t gamble

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