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April 27, 2021, 04:58:48 AM
That is a big word to say in my opinion because it sounds pretty ironic that you are called a gambler and at the same time responsible, isn't most gamblers forsake their responsibility because they are gambling.
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April 27, 2021, 04:20:26 AM
Borrowing to gamble! What a way to go.
You know personally,  there is nothing to be responsible about when it comes to gambling. I say this because, I don't think there are those that are proud gamblers or take gambling as an occupation.
But there are. There are professional gamblers out there that participate in tournaments for the cash prize. Tournaments aren't there so that gamblers with no money could participate but rather so that gamblers with money and the mentality to actually know what gambling could participate.


I suppose you mean poker tournaments with $10,000 buy-in and higher. There was even a tournament, Big One for One Drop with $1,000,000 buy-in. That's crazy, right?

A good poker player will never spend more than 1% of their poker bankroll on a tournament entry, so, obviously, most of the time they do need investors. But, it's important to understand that poker pros don't borrow money to buy a ticket. They attract investors who give them the money in exchange for a cut of the possible winnings. If the game is lost, a poker player doesn't owe a cent to anyone.

There's literally no exception to the rule that borrowing money for gambling  is wrong.
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April 25, 2021, 12:35:41 AM
Borrowing to gamble! What a way to go.
You know personally,  there is nothing to be responsible about when it comes to gambling. I say this because, I don't think there are those that are proud gamblers or take gambling as an occupation.
But there are. There are professional gamblers out there that participate in tournaments for the cash prize. Tournaments aren't there so that gamblers with no money could participate but rather so that gamblers with money and the mentality to actually know what gambling could participate.

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 And try to make $2000 in order to have an initial amount for trading. If you think you can trade, just do it. Trading is a better place than any online casino.
Trading is at least better than gambling. As a trader, I can say that trading is somehow related to gambling if you carelessly make a trade, put an order or let the emotion drive you insanely. But OP says that he intends to trade so probably he does prepare to make money with it instead of throwing his money out of a window like what he did in gambling

Your point is also correct. Trading is also very risky. Even so, if OP intitial decision is to make money with trading, why not let him finish it?
Who said to trade crypto anyway? Trading stocks and letting it make money for you seems to be the best option imo. Crypto on the other hand, is just an investment where you could quickly profit, even with the relatively famous coins, you'd only need 4-5 years for you to realize profit (basing it from history and not a guarantee, since most famous coins right now have grown to quite a price after all), while investing in new coins could get you a gain of more than 300% if the said coin were to ever grow (though they're most likely going to die off after that).
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April 24, 2021, 07:17:48 PM
I'm sorry death69 but I have to disagree with you, trading isn't a "better place" as you said or a safer place than online casinos. You can lose huge amounts of money when you invest into cyptocurrencies because they are highly volatile and unpredictable.

There's no need to literally put up a bad meaning on what the user said. Let's use our common sense here.

It's definitely a no-brainer that someone won't think that trading isn't risky. The user just wants to give advice to OP that it's good to focus on trading instead of gambling because of what happened. Then while on trading, of course, we need to manage it well along the way and do everything to keep up with the volatility.
No you're wrong bro, many people don't know cryptos and trading and they arrive here from google, or are just brand new crypto users. Saying it's safe to trade and you can easily earn money this way could mislead them and could get them burnt because of that. Death69 literally advised Vaskiy to trade in order to make more money, that's not a good advice in my opinion, that's a dangerous one and you should be careful if you don't think so.  

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 And try to make $2000 in order to have an initial amount for trading. If you think you can trade, just do it. Trading is a better place than any online casino.
Trading is at least better than gambling. As a trader, I can say that trading is somehow related to gambling if you carelessly make a trade, put an order or let the emotion drive you insanely. But OP says that he intends to trade so probably he does prepare to make money with it instead of throwing his money out of a window like what he did in gambling

Your point is also correct. Trading is also very risky. Even so, if OP intitial decision is to make money with trading, why not let him finish it?
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April 24, 2021, 06:45:31 PM
Borrowing to gamble! What a way to go.
You know personally,  there is nothing to be responsible about when it comes to gambling. I say this because, I don't think there are those that are proud gamblers or take gambling as an occupation. Really,

Are they? Or is it?

Its very wrong, so wrong to borrow with the hope of multiplying through gambling. Its possible but too risky and even the more risky to hope on doing this with someone else's money for which, you've got to pay back. Its never a promising investment and you've got almost zero assurance on what the next outcome would be so, why take so much risk.

So, its best you play only with your spare cash and ensure its what you can afford to loose as relates with investments.
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April 24, 2021, 06:37:40 PM


I also get the chills when reading borrowing and gambling in the same sentences, but I wouldn't call the people stupid. They might be totally aware of the risk and are still winning to do it.

Even if I got a tip from sports betting I would not even think of borrowing money just to bet, this is gambling anything and upsets can happen, some gamblers cannot get out of gambling because there are loan sharks willing to give them loan so they can continue gambling, this is something that people should avoid, it always started with small loan until you realized you are deep in a loan and you cannot get out anymore.
Sometimes gamblers are so desperate to recover previous losses that they appeal to borrowed money, because they really can't think in any better solution momentanely. In some cases they recover the losses, but most gamblers will keep getting deeper into debt. For this reason I agree with you, people shouldn't borrow money to gamble, that is very risky and nothing sustainable.
If a a person wants to recover money lost in gambling, he should look for another methods of sources of income and forget gambling for a while. If someone has lost too much money gambling, it's not through gambling that he will recover it.
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April 24, 2021, 05:16:43 PM


I also get the chills when reading borrowing and gambling in the same sentences, but I wouldn't call the people stupid. They might be totally aware of the risk and are still winning to do it.

Even if I got a tip from sports betting I would not even think of borrowing money just to bet, this is gambling anything and upsets can happen, some gamblers cannot get out of gambling because there are loan sharks willing to give them loan so they can continue gambling, this is something that people should avoid, it always started with small loan until you realized you are deep in a loan and you cannot get out anymore.
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April 24, 2021, 04:55:24 PM
I get nerves when I read borrowing and gambling in the same phase. The next word d to be associated with gambling and borrowing is stupid because that's what it is to borrow money to gamble. I won't stop mentioning this every time I'll read these comments.

I also get the chills when reading borrowing and gambling in the same sentences, but I wouldn't call the people stupid. They might be totally aware of the risk and are still winning to do it. It all comes down to if we are able to cover the losses easily or not. Let's say we have a decent salary and get a good bonus at the end of the year. If we don't want to wait until the end of the year to have our bonus we could borrow the money now and repay it in 8 months. But if we don't have such kind of future earnings than gambling with borrowed money shouldn't happen.
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April 24, 2021, 04:41:03 PM
Dont end up your life just because of that debt of yours.Yes, it might not sound simple but it isnt just worth to have some suicide because of that.There's always a solution to the problem.
The mistake you had done on here is that you do still believe that you can pay up or make that money grown and able to repay those debts via gambling which is really a very wrong mindset.
Come to think that if you had able to put those amounts you borrowed on trading capital then you might still have the chance on earning money.
It might not be that fast or big as gambling outcome but its a bit assured that you can really play with it and those funds wont be vanished in a short span of time.
I don't think so the best thing to do is to borrow money and put it into trading so that you may earn and pay your debt, because many says that the chances of winning in gambling is more than staking or putting your money into trading another thing is that yes it is really a wrong mind set that you will borrow a money in order to gamble again so that you may be able to pay your debt because it is hard to play that you are thinking that the money you are playing is the money that you will pay to your debts. When you are gambling or playing it is good to have a good and relax mindset in order to think the best moves.
It's also wrong to borrow money and trade it, don't expect 100% profit in trading as you never know the outcome, both trading and gambling is high risk, meaning you could loss or win, so it's really risky to borrow to pay trade to setlle all obligation.

Actually no borrower would allow you to borrow if you put that as your purpose, they know that trading is so risky, some people making money while many have also loss money in trading.
When you do borrow money then of course you wont be saying that it would be basically be used on trading purposes and other which are known to be risky.You would just simply
pretend that it would be used for personal matters or real world business which they might believe but overall when we do talk about loaned money and make use in trading
and gambling then you are just making your own problem later on when things turns out to go into the opposite side because profiting is always been questionable
specially if luck is primarily needed on dealing up with these things.Being responsible gambler is a must and other way of dealing with your finances.
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April 24, 2021, 04:22:37 PM
Dont end up your life just because of that debt of yours.Yes, it might not sound simple but it isnt just worth to have some suicide because of that.There's always a solution to the problem.
The mistake you had done on here is that you do still believe that you can pay up or make that money grown and able to repay those debts via gambling which is really a very wrong mindset.
Come to think that if you had able to put those amounts you borrowed on trading capital then you might still have the chance on earning money.
It might not be that fast or big as gambling outcome but its a bit assured that you can really play with it and those funds wont be vanished in a short span of time.
I don't think so the best thing to do is to borrow money and put it into trading so that you may earn and pay your debt, because many says that the chances of winning in gambling is more than staking or putting your money into trading another thing is that yes it is really a wrong mind set that you will borrow a money in order to gamble again so that you may be able to pay your debt because it is hard to play that you are thinking that the money you are playing is the money that you will pay to your debts. When you are gambling or playing it is good to have a good and relax mindset in order to think the best moves.
It's also wrong to borrow money and trade it, don't expect 100% profit in trading as you never know the outcome, both trading and gambling is high risk, meaning you could loss or win, so it's really risky to borrow to pay trade to setlle all obligation.

Actually no borrower would allow you to borrow if you put that as your purpose, they know that trading is so risky, some people making money while many have also loss money in trading.
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April 20, 2021, 09:11:28 AM
Dont end up your life just because of that debt of yours.Yes, it might not sound simple but it isnt just worth to have some suicide because of that.There's always a solution to the problem.
The mistake you had done on here is that you do still believe that you can pay up or make that money grown and able to repay those debts via gambling which is really a very wrong mindset.
Come to think that if you had able to put those amounts you borrowed on trading capital then you might still have the chance on earning money.
It might not be that fast or big as gambling outcome but its a bit assured that you can really play with it and those funds wont be vanished in a short span of time.
I don't think so the best thing to do is to borrow money and put it into trading so that you may earn and pay your debt, because many says that the chances of winning in gambling is more than staking or putting your money into trading another thing is that yes it is really a wrong mind set that you will borrow a money in order to gamble again so that you may be able to pay your debt because it is hard to play that you are thinking that the money you are playing is the money that you will pay to your debts. When you are gambling or playing it is good to have a good and relax mindset in order to think the best moves.
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April 20, 2021, 08:19:48 AM
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If you rely on the outcome of your gambling journey to pay your debt, that is wrong, but if you have a job and you are earning, then you can still pay your debt even if you are losing in gambling, that's the best thing to do. Debt should be paid, no matter how small it is, and of course, as long as you don't run from it, your lender would understand and both of you will make a settlement where you are both comfortable.
Or you could do the not stupid move of not gambling and just continue paying that debt, yes you want to have fun but if you only get your high with gambling then you are probably gambling. Even if you don't run from it, if you didn't pay it at the right time then your lender would probably see it in a different way.
What's the point of working in order to pay the debt when you are simultaneously gambling your hard-earned money, only to risk losing it again to an unhealthy addiction? If someone has reached such a point, he should stop immediately. He has already failed in controlling it, he shouldn't keep up with it anymore.
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April 20, 2021, 08:08:03 AM
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I wonder how people can get away with this kind of habit because by reading posts that are related to gambling, I haven't seen someone quit after they won big. Maybe they have that kind of want that they will gonna win some big if they back and try again. I have seen someone who trading in the crypto market but in gambling, they only quit if there is no hope anymore. They would have done that earlier before they lose big time.

Liv Boeree, a former professional poker player, can serve as a good example for many of us gamblers. In November 2019, after earning over $3,800,000 in live tournaments, she decided to  quit professional poker.



Being a great poker player, she decided to quit because she knew that even in poker, a lot of things still depends on luck.

And poker depends on luck only partially, while most of the games we play depend on luck by 100%. So, here's my advice: if you accidentally hit the jackpot and won $1,000 out of your $1 bet, do not raise the stakes thinking that you would win $100k with a $100 bet, rather(if you don't want to quit completely) lower your stakes and play less frequently. You will last longer this way.
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April 20, 2021, 06:51:30 AM
People gets addicted to gambling gradually. I even started gambling with a few bucks and as time goes by money seemed slow. If you are winning a lot you will start thinking what if I had wagered higher I could've had more. Greed will always be any gamblers demise. Chasing for your losses, expecting more winnings. The end result will be the same people who gambles will fall as victim to casinos being gambling addicted.

I wonder how people can get away with this kind of habit because by reading posts that are related to gambling, I haven't seen someone quit after they won big. Maybe they have that kind of want that they will gonna win some big if they back and try again. I have seen someone who trading in the crypto market but in gambling, they only quit if there is no hope anymore. They would have done that earlier before they lose big time.
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April 20, 2021, 03:11:32 AM
I get nerves when I read borrowing and gambling in the same phase. The next word d to be associated with gambling and borrowing is stupid because that's what it is to borrow money to gamble. I won't stop mentioning this every time I'll read these comments.
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April 20, 2021, 02:09:18 AM
You don't have to put yourself added pressure by gambling with a borrowed money.

You're certainly correct, when you borrowed money to gamble, especially a big amount, you will always feel the pressure because in your mind is the words "what if"... what if you loss, how can you pay the loan? or, do you have to borrow again after a loss?.
You'll always have that mindset that will just confuse you from time to time as you gamble. Those what ifs will make you lose your control and suddenly if it actually happens, you'll have a bad day that will affect your emotion.

I mean, you can't loss because you are just borrowing the money, and that alone would affect your decision making from the moment you choose what team to bet and how you manage your bankroll.
And the worse part is because you've borrowed, you're now going to think how you're going to repay it. Since you've borrowed, means that you don't have sufficient funds to even cover yourself to deposit in a casino and that's going to be the next mind game that you have to go through.
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April 20, 2021, 01:48:50 AM
^ Regardless if you have a stable job or a jobless or unemployed person, you have to know how to control your finance, you have to make sure you know how much you can spend on each in every aspect of your life. If you want to do gambling, they allocate funds for that but never give you all. You will end up becoming impulsive and greedy especially when you are already there. I have been there and done that, advice was not very much helpful that I had to learn from my experience. And I am telling you, it is a pain in the ass. Recovering from massive debt is very much torturing. But still don’t give up and have hope.

There is a saying that two persons earn each 30k in a month and one spends 7k the other spends 30k.The smart one is that who has control over his finances and that is what a responsible gambler should do,learn to manage his greed and better his self control.There is no other way around.
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April 20, 2021, 12:31:33 AM
^ Regardless if you have a stable job or a jobless or unemployed person, you have to know how to control your finance, you have to make sure you know how much you can spend on each in every aspect of your life. If you want to do gambling, they allocate funds for that but never give you all. You will end up becoming impulsive and greedy especially when you are already there. I have been there and done that, advice was not very much helpful that I had to learn from my experience. And I am telling you, it is a pain in the ass. Recovering from massive debt is very much torturing. But still don’t give up and have hope.
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April 20, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
People gets addicted to gambling gradually. I even started gambling with a few bucks and as time goes by money seemed slow. If you are winning a lot you will start thinking what if I had wagered higher I could've had more. Greed will always be any gamblers demise. Chasing for your losses, expecting more winnings. The end result will be the same people who gambles will fall as victim to casinos being gambling addicted.
If people can always control themselves, they will not become addicted to gambling because they will know how long they can playing gambling and the money they will use to gamble. Having control for ourselves will be important because that will help us become responsible gamblers who know that gambling is just part of enjoying life. Besides that, we can always manage the greediness the will always come to us and we can avoid becoming greedy if we win on the gambling games. Being a responsible gambler will make us not chase the winning or recover the losses as we know that will not be easy to do instead, we can lose more money.
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April 20, 2021, 12:01:57 AM
the problem is not in gambling but you shouldnt involved yourself in a verry huge loan because that will cause to have a problem and you will think of risky stuffs just to have a money to pay the loan and you said your not gambling anymore but why join a gambling campaign ? i heard that campaign pays directly in thier gambling site ( or in your gambling account ) goodluck with that , i hope you can avoid the temptation this time . atleast this campaign help you earn and save the funds to settle your loans slowly

campaigns that pay you directly to the casino are luring us. it's hard to resist when you are already addicted and then you still have been surrounded by casinos. the reason for his loan is to gamble to chase the loss which means it's a combination of both. i don't know if the friend who gave loan knows he's lost a lot already. surprisingly a friend trusted him that much.  i myself am tempted to play casino games, it's a good thing i can resist since i only bet on their sports events.
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