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Topic: be.open & Sancho18 - bounty cheaters. - page 6. (Read 2663 times)

copper member
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White Russian
October 15, 2019, 12:54:56 PM
#18
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
I am not going to try to sell my reasons, and there will be no evidence either - I value my privacy and the privacy of my son too much. I urge the presumption of innocence to help. And the precedent of this topic.

To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.
If you are not willing to show any evidence, no one will believe your case as this is the most common reason which everyone uses when their alts are caught abusing the campaigns.
I do not trust KTChampions. Perhaps I can enter a video chat on whatsapp with one of the DT members and show my passport, in which there is an entry about the presence of my son, born in 2002. Of course, my son’s name is not Sancho, this is just a forum nickname. I do not want to send my documents to anyone, if I take the risk of deanonymization, then let it be symmetrical. Which member of the DT is ready to enter into such a dialogue with me? Who wants to take a look at be.open? There are public persons in the list of DT?

If your son name is not Sancho and obviously your name is not be.open, then nothing can be proved.  Its does not matter if you come live on whatsapp or come live physically.  
I am afraid this was the only hope for you and with further five accounts discovered by KTChampions makes your case even more weaker.
Let me remind you that thanks to the presumption of innocence, I do not need to prove anything. I have a son, he is 17, there is a possibility that I am telling the truth and this is really so. I ask you to adhere to the principles of fair justice and interpret this opportunity in my favor.

Other accounts (Kutkh, Prod, Bonanzabits) also do not belong to me. There is insufficient evidence that I managed them.
hero member
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
October 15, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
#17
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
I am not going to try to sell my reasons, and there will be no evidence either - I value my privacy and the privacy of my son too much. I urge the presumption of innocence to help. And the precedent of this topic.

To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.
If you are not willing to show any evidence, no one will believe your case as this is the most common reason which everyone uses when their alts are caught abusing the campaigns.
I do not trust KTChampions. Perhaps I can enter a video chat on whatsapp with one of the DT members and show my passport, in which there is an entry about the presence of my son, born in 2002. Of course, my son’s name is not Sancho, this is just a forum nickname. I do not want to send my documents to anyone, if I take the risk of deanonymization, then let it be symmetrical. Which member of the DT is ready to enter into such a dialogue with me? Who wants to take a look at be.open? There are public persons in the list of DT?

If your son name is not Sancho and obviously your name is not be.open, then nothing can be proved.  Its does not matter if you come live on whatsapp or come live physically.  
I am afraid this was the only hope for you and with further five accounts discovered by KTChampions makes your case even more weaker.
copper member
Activity: 2072
Merit: 901
White Russian
October 15, 2019, 12:40:27 PM
#16
To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.~

It is a bad idea. The presence of a son does not prove anything and does not cancel the revealed violations.
Nobody canceled the presumption of innocence. If possible, then this should be interpreted in my favor.

So, if you have a son, then you can have two accounts, if two sons, then three, if you have friends, then you can build a huge bot farm? OK. Beautiful story, thanks.
When you manage to interest your 15-year-old teenage son into engaging in any joint activities, and continue to do this together for two years, it will be important for me to know your opinion on this issue. I am very grateful to the forum that I managed to establish good relations with my son, thanks to the competitive quest in the bounty.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 15, 2019, 12:36:30 PM
#15
To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.~

It is a bad idea. The presence of a son does not prove anything and does not cancel the revealed violations.
Nobody canceled the presumption of innocence. If possible, then this should be interpreted in my favor.

So, if you have a son, then you can have two accounts, if two sons, then three, if you have friends, then you can build a huge bot farm? OK. Beautiful story, thanks.
copper member
Activity: 2072
Merit: 901
White Russian
October 15, 2019, 12:29:16 PM
#14
To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.~

It is a bad idea. The presence of a son does not prove anything and does not cancel the revealed violations.
Nobody canceled the presumption of innocence. If possible, then this should be interpreted in my favor.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1899
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 15, 2019, 12:24:46 PM
#13
To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.~

It is a bad idea. The presence of a son does not prove anything and does not cancel the revealed violations.
copper member
Activity: 2072
Merit: 901
White Russian
October 15, 2019, 12:13:19 PM
#12
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
I am not going to try to sell my reasons, and there will be no evidence either - I value my privacy and the privacy of my son too much. I urge the presumption of innocence to help. And the precedent of this topic.

To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.
If you are not willing to show any evidence, no one will believe your case as this is the most common reason which everyone uses when their alts are caught abusing the campaigns.
I do not trust KTChampions. Perhaps I can enter a video chat on whatsapp with one of the DT members and show my passport, in which there is an entry about the presence of my son, born in 2002. Of course, my son’s name is not Sancho, this is just a forum nickname. I do not want to send my documents to anyone, if I take the risk of deanonymization, then let it be symmetrical. Which member of the DT is ready to enter into such a dialogue with me? Who wants to take a look at be.open? There are public persons in the list of DT?
hero member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 644
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
October 15, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
#11
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
I am not going to try to sell my reasons, and there will be no evidence either - I value my privacy and the privacy of my son too much. I urge the presumption of innocence to help. And the precedent of this topic.

To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
If he is 17 and does not have an ID, any school certificate can show this. You can send this proof to KTChampions or any reputable DT member whom you trust ,if you do not want to disclose it to public.
If you are not willing to show any evidence, no one will believe your case as this is the most common reason which everyone uses when their alts are caught abusing the campaigns.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1899
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 15, 2019, 11:03:01 AM
#10
copper member
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White Russian
October 15, 2019, 09:24:16 AM
#9
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
I am not going to try to sell my reasons, and there will be no evidence either - I value my privacy and the privacy of my son too much. I urge the presumption of innocence to help. And the precedent of this topic.
hero member
Activity: 1806
Merit: 671
October 15, 2019, 09:05:19 AM
#8
It would take a whole lot things to pursuade DT members to remove both of your tags than just a story about you being the father of Sancho. Because literally no one will buy your reason without any kind of evidence to prove it, and a lot if people have used that reasoning before. Aside from using one address you have also used a telegram account of the ogher account which is suspicious enough to see why you two are frequently switching addresses and account names.
copper member
Activity: 2072
Merit: 901
White Russian
October 14, 2019, 11:40:03 PM
#7
Hello. I'm not good at English, sorry.

Sancho is my son’s account, now he is 17, and for him, participating in the bounty campaigns was something like a fun game that we played together competing with each other, trying to never cross. Once I made a mistake and joined the same twitter campaign as him. This does not mean that I am a cheater, because behind us we think for more than a hundred different campaigns, and I was mistaken only once. For Sancho, it’s a big blow that he suffered because of my mistake. The forum seems to have already lost a young talented writer who started with a bounty, and then in a game form was very deeply imbued with the ideas of crypto. It’s a very bad practice to label individual violations. It is a pity that it is widespread. The son should not be responsible for the mistakes of the father. And my only mistake by inattention does not mean that I am a cheater.
legendary
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Merit: 1899
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 14, 2019, 07:18:38 PM
#6
http://web.archive.org/web/20191014214750/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2564886.msg26125867

The terms of that bounty don't state that alt accounts are not allowed to be used.

A neutral tag would be appropriate and a warning not to merit the alt account (against the rules).

Symilar cases:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-dt-using-multiple-account-trading-merit-self-talking-trading-trust-5147367
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048262.40

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.

Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
October 14, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
#5
http://web.archive.org/web/20191014214750/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2564886.msg26125867

The terms of that bounty don't state that alt accounts are not allowed to be used.

A neutral tag would be appropriate and a warning not to merit the alt account (against the rules).

Symilar cases:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-dt-using-multiple-account-trading-merit-self-talking-trading-trust-5147367
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048262.40
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1899
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 13, 2019, 10:42:22 AM
#4
Good day, apparently a misunderstanding occurred. I admire the heroic forum activities of be.open and flattered if I am mistaken for it. Apparently, there is a personal reconciliation of topic starter with be.open, please be careful in considering the evidence provided, even if at first glance they seem convincing. I have never violated the rules of the bounty campaigns and am not a bounty cheater. Thanks.

Cool story  Grin


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sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 368
Sancho
October 13, 2019, 09:23:52 AM
#3
Good day, apparently a misunderstanding occurred. I admire the heroic forum activities of be.open and flattered if I am mistaken for it. Apparently, there is a personal reconciliation of topic starter with be.open, please be careful in considering the evidence provided, even if at first glance they seem convincing. I have never violated the rules of the bounty campaigns and am not a bounty cheater. Thanks.
full member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 105
October 13, 2019, 07:10:38 AM
#2
Are both be.open and Sancho18 were in the same campaign ? If so, they need to be tagged by DT.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1899
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 12, 2019, 02:44:14 PM
#1

be.open       Hero Member
Sancho18    Sr. Member

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Connection through merit: Favorite profiles to send sMerit to for Sancho18 is be.open (top-1) - 8 merits sent, 1 merit returned.

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