Topic: be.open & Sancho18 - bounty cheaters. - page 4. (Read 2717 times)

You know, a while ago when I was actively tagging members who had multiple linked accounts in the same bounty I actually looked at the rules of some of these bounties, and I noticed that most of them don't have rules against this.  That's kind of when I stopped tagging people for enrolling alt accounts in bounties, even though I still think it's an unsavory practice--they're gobbling up spots that could be given to other people IMO and ultimately are being very greedy.

Basically, if the bounty manager doesn't care if the same person is using multiple accounts in a single bounty, why should I or any other DT member take the time to tag them?  It's unsavory but if it isn't against the rules it isn't cheating and it's not even really dishonest.  It sure would be nice if those bounty managers did make rules prohibiting the practice, but in their eyes the more accounts they get enrolled the more advertising they get. 

The whole system is completely fucked.

Hi, good job.  

It was originally just a promo account for my site https://sne.su/ with a quote from Jean Baudrillard, whose philosophical works influenced my worldview.

Account is inactive for about a year, the site is still working.

I see this topic as quite warm to watch,
A little motivated for my visit to Russia.

Note:
I am not taking sides with anyone in this accusation.

However, reasons are common.?

I traveled to Russia and met @sne.su.
The conversation occurred, even though he was last active in 2018 but @ sne.su is still active.

I ask.
1. Is @ be.open your father.
No answer.
2. What number of children are @ be.open and are @ Sancho18 your sister or your sister?
No answer.

Indeed, they did not cheat in the campaign.
But have either a lot of account or brother, sister etc.

A little bit of illusion.

A little answer from @be.open's dad about @ sne.su.

Accounts Connected:

1. be.open
2. sne.su

Proof:

Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-wepower-first-global-blockchain-for-green-energy-future-2213411


http://archive.is/J3bfw

Related Addresses:


Miscellaneous:

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Fast check:


You are asking a question on my message of october 16th. And you get the answer exactly on the material you are asking about. If something does not suit you, then be more precise in your questions.


be.open/Sancho18 claims that this is the farm of his friend.

Thank you for taking the time to look into this matter essentially. I appreciate your opinion and you helped me a lot. Tnx.

They told you - there’s nothing to forgive. Your theme is essentially slander. Sancho and I are not bounty cheaters.


You are right, I do not manage these accounts, this is not my level. In any case, this is beyond the scope of this topic, forum rules do not allow me to discuss this here (and there is nothing to discuss).

Maybe you canceled your unjust accusation? I passed the LoyceV's test, I hope this is a pretty weighty argument for you.

I was expecting that you would somehow substantiate the original claim but it looks like you moved the goalposts. Are we still talking about things you laid out in the OP or something else? If there are shitposts - report them to moderators. If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.

Forum rules:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

Account farmers almost always violate this rule:

- it was posted il Ru local.

Do you want a formal answer? I gave it to you.


https://twitter.com/Sancho_1_8 - fake and bot (no own tweets)
https://twitter.com/bitubuntu - fake and bot.
https://twitter.com/bonanzabits - fake and bot.
The remaining two are suspended.

Which forum rules did they violate?


Was the twitter account fake, dead, inactive, or a bot?

Now that I have a bit more time, I'll share my opinion on this thread.

How did he/they cheat the bounty? In the thread, I don't see any limitations on the number of accounts anyone can use. It may be unethical, but I don't think it's against the rules.
I have a hard time believing any Bounty thread that promised $1,000 in their made-up Token per week, and since they thrive on spam, I don't think they even mind if someone joins with more than one account.

These are the posts:
I don't think this is debated by the involved accounts, so I assume this is correct.

From what I've seen, the large majority of all bounty spammers uses fake Twitter accounts that only have other bounty spammers as followers.

I've seen the "he's my family member" excuse too many times, and I can't verify it, so I'll ignore that part. But the rest: I see 2 users who each earned much more Merit than most other users, and must belong to the top "bounty hunters" in terms of Merit earnings.

You know this is Bitcointalk, right? Wait, let me quote theymos on KYC:
I said earlier that I wouldn't be willing to have a video chat because that's close to doxing myself, but an equally important reason is that I don't want to ask anyone else to do this either.

You can have more than one account indeed.

I really want this to be true, it sounds like a good thing to have.

I've actually considered creating accounts for my kids already, but haven't done it yet. They're too young now, but when they're old enough, the first thing I want to teach them is how to protect their privacy online. I'm not sure yet if I'd want them to declare family relationships online, especially when it comes to Bitcoin! Anyone knowing who I am could accidentally dox me by doxing himself.

I can't find this back in the unedited scraped post, nor in the current post so I can't confirm this was really posted. But if it was, it has been edited again, so I guess that means be.open agrees it was uncalled for.
One way or another, I don't really care about rude comments. It says more about the person saying it than the person they're talking about.
Whatever happens, always try to stay friendly

With 9 more inclusions than exclusions on lovesmayfamilis, that's not very likely to happen.

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I want to quote myself from LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system:
I can't read most of their posts, but based on the amount of Merit they received, they must have been contributing something to this forum. And I think we must guard against scaring off users for relatively small things.
May I remind lovesmayfamilis that (s)he him/herself was banned, and got unbanned with a signature ban until next year?

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Because lovesmayfamilis Trusts my judgement:
I suggest to give this user (or these users?) the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to help improve this forum, and turn this into neutral tags.

Do you people know each other in person ? You and lovesmayfamilis ?
So what if she remove the feedback from your son profile but keep it on yours ?  I know this cannot happen but if she does, would you agree ?

I don't make myself a Jedi, I am a Jedi. And I saw my son’s tears from your unjust impulsive punishment, so do not expect special tenderness from me. This is not a forum for moms discussing diapers, so you won’t have discounts here for no balls. You made a mistake - have the power to acknowledge it, and correct it. You are trying to save your face, but you do not need to think about your face now, but about my son.

Where am I hiding? Or do you think that I should listen or read your rudeness all day? You already wrote a lot of nasty things for me. The more you continue, the less you will receive answers from me. And yes, I’m tired of this attitude, talk to your wife or son like that. Well, call for help further. Just look at similar topics, and learn to respect others, and not make yourself a Jedi.

You have been given good advice from suchmoon.

Maybe you can understand that the world does not revolve around you.

Tnx.


It would be much easier for me to protect my reputation if the punishment had not already been applied. It took me a while to study similar precedents and work out an optimal line of defense. Obviously, abolishing the punishment is much more difficult than preventing it. Unfortunately, I did not find another effective way to call the punisher for an open dialogue on this topic. And I needed her open recognition of the presence of a motive for revenge, and here it is:


lovesmayfamilis openly admits that she made a mistake by including me in her trust list, that I disappointed her. But what is the reason for disappointment? I did not promise her that I did not have a son. I did not hide the fact that I participated in bounty campaigns. I did not try to use her trust for personal gain. I did not try to introduce myself to her in a winning light. I did not lie to her that I never make mistakes. I just always was myself, as now. What, some kind of accusation for doing things two years ago, destroyed my halo of holiness? What is the reason for such a sharp reaction with the removal from the trust list and the issuance of a negative tag? I have only one answer to all these questions, and no matter how I try to soften its wording, the essence will not change. And even leaving behind the brackets the reason for such an impulsive decision, this is an abuse of power. Madame made a lynching, and then hid in the bushes. Not good, it's a shame. It is wrong to make emotions decisions that put an end to the career of a bounty hunter. For a member of DT, this behavior is unacceptable, it’s like signing for professional unsuitability.

But as a person, I like her and I deeply regret that I had to resort to such measures. Sorry.

Although all the father/Son , brother/sister cases in this forum are all fake but going through all this conversation I have a feeling in my heart that be.open might be true in his case and he deserve justice here. Everyone is not liar and the way he has presented his case, I do hope he get the result which may keep him and his son's believe that justice do exists in this world.

On contrary to this, the shameless words which be.open used for lovesmayfamilis in public is condemnable and he should say sorry to her , regardless of her opinion of her tagging him. What impresses me that even after so much humiliations, she did not replied back in an abusive language which shows her nobility.

Also i am not sure which personals glitch you both have as that link directs to local language which i am not familiar with, but lovesmayfamilis should make a fair decision in the end whatever she think is right.

I would rather go up with a clean reputation without a bounty cheater tag, which I absolutely don't deserve. In addition, the cleanliness of Sancho's account bothers me even more.

Sorry, I probably got excited about the form of the statement, which does not negate the presence of a motive for personal revenge.

By the way, topicstarter also has a motive for personal revenge.

And what do we have? One rummages through my story of messages two years ago, trying to find at least something dubious. Another imposes a sentence before considering all the circumstances of the case, without hearing the arguments of the defense (despite the fact that Sancho18 immediately declared his innocence and asked not to rush to conclusions). Although both are well aware that this is not a shit-posting farm, but two active accounts with unique high-quality content. Maybe because both are driven by a thirst for personal revenge?

This is not a criminal trial and you're not being sentenced to prison. You have +1 and -1 in your DT feedback. You can go up or down from here, mostly depends on you.


It may seem true in some backwoods where it's still acceptable to treat women this way but in reality that's quite wrong. You might want to rethink your attitude.

Nop, if I'm right. But I cannot prove it, and the prosecution cannot refute it. There is an inescapable doubt here and I ask you to interpret it in my favor, calling for the aid of the presumption of innocence. I do not ask believe me, I ask to judge me fairly.

But I heard your advice, tnx.

Here's an advice buddy don't try to point fingers or play the victim game. Tagging you isn't a wrong decision as the evidence provided above is enough reasons to back that. Many others have ruined their account due to same offends you committed and be mindful of your use of words because you might just draw more attention of other DT members to this situation. The attitude you display towards resolving you case matters alot not forgetting we're mostly humans here.

@Lovesmayfamilis feedback isn't wrong whether it's a personal attack or not. Understand that and appeal your tagged reasonably.

Glad we resumed our dialogue. I did not deserve to be punished, and with your head you know that. I disappointed you, it happens. But that does not make me and my son a bounty cheater. Please be prudent, cancel your tag and go to peace.

ps And you're still on my trust list. Because I don’t act like a little offended girl. Correct your mistake and do not bury yourself even deeper.