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bitart

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Quote from: Saint-loup on November 24, 2018, 06:36:40 PM

Quote from: bitart on November 24, 2018, 04:33:57 PM

Just make sure that you won't share your code... I've read in another topic that spammers/copypasters are now fishing for anti-spam anti-plagiarism methods, to upgrade their systems in order to have less accounts banned in the future...

He's not the admin so I don't understand your point, if he prefers to be open source, he's free.

Absolutely, it's his decision.
I'm just wondering if it worths the efforts to develop a system to catch the bad boys, where the bad boys can easily check how they are identified to be a bad boy or not and they can modify their system accordingly to escape the checks...
If open source, there will be no catch after the bad boys have adapted themselves, so the new system would be just unnecessary...
But bad boys would stand up for the open source system of course

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Quote from: bitart on November 24, 2018, 04:33:57 PM

Quote from: Piggy on November 22, 2018, 07:30:25 AM

Quote from: asche on November 22, 2018, 07:21:32 AM

I never said you couldn't do it Piggy

But it looks like it involves a lot of modification to what the bot does now.

not a lot of changes in the end, but since this bot is serving a complete different purpose and since it's stable now, i would like to avoid put on top of it more code which could potentially fail and bring down everything altogether Wink

It i'll probably be something separated based on this one, if i see is possible to get some useful result.

Just make sure that you won't share your code... I've read in another topic that spammers/copypasters are now fishing for anti-spam anti-plagiarism methods, to upgrade their systems in order to have less accounts banned in the future...

He's not the admin so I don't understand your point, if he prefers to be open source, he's free.

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Quote from: Piggy on November 22, 2018, 07:30:25 AM

Quote from: asche on November 22, 2018, 07:21:32 AM

I never said you couldn't do it Piggy

But it looks like it involves a lot of modification to what the bot does now.

not a lot of changes in the end, but since this bot is serving a complete different purpose and since it's stable now, i would like to avoid put on top of it more code which could potentially fail and bring down everything altogether Wink

It i'll probably be something separated based on this one, if i see is possible to get some useful result.

Just make sure that you won't share your code... I've read in another topic that spammers/copypasters are now fishing for anti-spam anti-plagiarism methods, to upgrade their systems in order to have less accounts banned in the future...

Piggy

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 08:30:33 AM

Is I said, I messed up the whole thing. If i remember correctly this is what i've done >

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 08:08:00 AM

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I quoted the whole post first, then edited it again but I deleted 1 closing quote too much and it appeared as I posted it. Then came another edit to fix it.
This is the final result, it should not trigger notifications.
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It's not my first time messing up the quote tags..

Ok so in this case then the notification would have been triggered indeed like it happened.

I may need to check why spotted a quote as well beside the mention, but with broken tags i figure there could be these kind of inaccuracies since i didn't test these cases.

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Is I said, I messed up the whole thing. If i remember correctly this is what i've done >

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 08:08:00 AM

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I quoted the whole post first, then edited it again but I deleted 1 closing quote too much and it appeared as I posted it. Then came another edit to fix it.
This is the final result, it should not trigger notifications.
...

It's not my first time messing up the quote tags..

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 07:35:19 AM

Edited:Actually you are there in the second part of the post, see the second quote below the

I saw that

My point is: you're not quoting me directly, you're quoting someone who mentioned me.

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 07:35:19 AM

I'm going to fake @iasenko's quote here and fake mention @Piggy here too.

(obviously: quote edited by me Cheesy

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If I understand correctly, P i g g y should not receive a notification, but if the bug is real, he'll get one anyway. ~~I won't edit this post.~~ I edited it anyway, but didn't change any usernames.

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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

Quote from: Piggy on November 23, 2018, 07:44:52 AM

it often happen the post get edited (i do it as well) right after is posted and there could be discrepancies since only the first version is read.

But if you iasenko didn't quote directly or mention LoyceV directly (and then remove it) there could have been a problem then. In any case i can try to debug that message and see what happen.

Here is the post we are talking about. Let's test it if he will get notification.
I quoted the whole post first, then edited it again but I deleted 1 closing quote too much and it appeared as I posted it. Then came another edit to fix it.
This is the final result, it should not trigger notifications.

Quote from: pugman on November 23, 2018, 06:15:38 AM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 03:40:23 AM

OMG, this hat obsession is affecting the meta too. What is all about those hats?
How the hell this even started? I gave up lurking in the Wall Observer it's almost impossible to find something there, it's like facebook, you just enter there and suddenly, half an hour gone.

Read this:
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There you go, another half hour gone. Thanks for the input, It was almost 400 pages back.. I don't think I could ever find it myself.

Quote from: pugman on November 23, 2018, 06:15:38 AM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 03:40:23 AM

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You don't want to fuck with the WO people, they'll dump so much of those TA's on your head, you might start to think the Earth is actually flat. And you'll prefer wearing those hats instead of taking crack on the weekends whilst sobbing about bitcoin's price. :/

And also, you'll eventually end up joining in with LoyceV , by falling into the trap(aka the hypnotism caused by Micgoosens).

No way for me to go for a hat like these. NO.
If I make an exception, then it will be for something like this..

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it often happen the post get edited (i do it as well) right after is posted and there could be discrepancies since only the first version is read.

But if you iasenko didn't quote directly or mention LoyceV directly (and then remove it) there could have been a problem then. In any case i can try to debug that message and see what happen.

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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

Quote from: LoyceV on November 23, 2018, 07:15:32 AM

Is this a bug or intended? I was mentioned inside the quote, and received notification anyway:

Quote from: Maggiordomo on November 23, 2018, 07:03:36 AM

LoyceV, you have been mentioned and quoted in the following messages:

Other - Meta - Re: [TUTORIAL] Less than one minute to make your hat (or other avatar) look better!!
Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
There you go, another half hour gone. Thanks for the input, It was almost 400 pages back.. I don't think

I guess it's my fault, I ~~remove~~ the quoted message from pugman where you was mentioned after I posted the answer. I guess that's why it happened.

Edited:Actually you are there in the second part of the post, see the second quote below the

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Is this a bug or intended? I was mentioned inside the quote, and received notification anyway:

Quote from: Maggiordomo on November 23, 2018, 07:03:36 AM

LoyceV, you have been mentioned and quoted in the following messages:

Other - Meta - Re: [TUTORIAL] Less than one minute to make your hat (or other avatar) look better!!
Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 23, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
There you go, another half hour gone. Thanks for the input, It was almost 400 pages back.. I don't think

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Quote from: Piggy on November 22, 2018, 07:16:35 AM

Yes, is not going to be possible to find everything but something could still be detectable which is better than nothing

Maybe the focus could be on the 1-2 sections of the forum where most of the plagiarism issues take place such as the Altcoin section. I am not sure which other board has a lot of copy-pasted material but I assume it is mainly related to bounties. If that goes well it could be widened to other boards for example.

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Quote from: bernardos on November 22, 2018, 09:22:02 AM

It is not possible to connect several BT accounts to one notification thread but is it possible to receive notifications on the same telegram account for several BT accounts?

I never tried to do it but it should actually work

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It is not possible to connect several BT accounts to one notification thread but is it possible to receive notifications on the same telegram account for several BT accounts?

asche

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Quote from: Piggy on November 22, 2018, 07:30:25 AM

It i'll probably be something separated based on this one, if i see is possible to get some useful result.

If you can tag me when you start testing

I'd be happy to participate.

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Quote from: asche on November 22, 2018, 07:21:32 AM

I never said you couldn't do it Piggy

But it looks like it involves a lot of modification to what the bot does now.

not a lot of changes in the end, but since this bot is serving a complete different purpose and since it's stable now, i would like to avoid put on top of it more code which could potentially fail and bring down everything altogether Wink

It i'll probably be something separated based on this one, if i see is possible to get some useful result.

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I forgot more than you will ever know.

I never said you couldn't do it Piggy

But it looks like it involves a lot of modification to what the bot does now.

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 22, 2018, 06:41:27 AM

@Piggy is it possible to configure the bot to recognise words in the same order? For example User A posts something and in case User B copies his post (plagiarises it) User A gets a notification or a notification is sent to thread for everyone to see. Imagine how much this would help with copy/pasting issues.
In case the same order of 5 or 10 words is used the bot sends out a notification.
Sorry if this was already discussed I didn't go through all posts.

since the bot is already reading all the messages this sort of the idea was brought up in fact, i still have to think how is better to implement it, but as soon as i have some clear idea and time to code it i'll implement something that will detect some of the plagiarism happening within the forum.

I'm not entirely sure however if this should be some functionality of this bot or a new one, which will specifically deal with these matters.

Quote from: asche on November 22, 2018, 07:09:26 AM

This would require to copy over the whole forum database and compare every single new post to the old ones. Safe to say it would be extremely difficult to implement

Yes, is not going to be possible to find everything but something could still be detectable which is better than nothing

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 22, 2018, 06:41:27 AM

@Piggy is it possible to configure the bot to recognise words in the same order? For example User A posts something and in case User B copies his post (plagiarises it) User A gets a notification or a notification is sent to thread for everyone to see. Imagine how much this would help with copy/pasting issues.
In case the same order of 5 or 10 words is used the bot sends out a notification.
Sorry if this was already discussed I didn't go through all posts.

This would require to copy over the whole forum database and compare every single new post to the old ones. Safe to say it would be extremely difficult to implement

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@Piggy is it possible to configure the bot to recognise words in the same order? For example User A posts something and in case User B copies his post (plagiarises it) User A gets a notification or a notification is sent to thread for everyone to see. Imagine how much this would help with copy/pasting issues.
In case the same order of 5 or 10 words is used the bot sends out a notification.
Sorry if this was already discussed I didn't go through all posts.

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Quote from: bernardos on November 20, 2018, 02:29:51 PM

@Piggy it seems that it is only possible to receive notifications either via the thread or over telegram. Is it possible to receive them both via telegram and in the created thread in archival?
Once I enabled the telegram notifications I stopped receiving them in my thread.

At the moment you can just use one or the other, if both methods are set, it uses automatically telegram. Is to avoid redundancy and keep the system simple.

Telegram is more convenient imo.

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