Topic: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award - page 10. (Read 151911 times)

This says a lot. How can someone wearing multiple faces can be trusted?

Whatever Betcoin has done, I think you are no better.

This is really becoming too much. I'll probably leave the campaign because to me the forum is a place to share knowledge and insights.

I'm not here to discuss this.

If I wear a Marlboro Classic shirt that does not mean I endorse smoking.

You are so little minded.

Enough.

Creating multiple accounts when your accounts have been banned in some way in order to use the chat feature is not "multi accounting".  Multi accounting refers to making multiple accounts in order to play in the same tournament or cash game in order to take advantage of the other players.  If Twitchy has been doing this, that IS a problem and if you could show evidence of that it would go a long way to damage his credibility. 

I've created tons of accounts to use in their chat and forum, never to cheat other players.


I don't need credibility, I have EVIDENCE. 

Are you really trying to say that you've only had one account on betcoin.ag?  And that your ip wasn't blocked due to multiple accounts?  I don't have the time to dig up all the evidence....Just suffice it to say, you seriously lack credibility.

I put a lot of effort into responding to you, hoping you would read it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15575734

Did you?  

Do you see the evidence I've posted the shows Betcoin is lying about the role they played in JasonOrt issue?

I'm perfectly willing to have a reasonable conversation with you on pretty much any topic, including goiing through any evidence you think you have to back up your statement:

"Trust abuser. Long time cheater on the poker scene who has been kicked off of several sites for violating terms and conditions....Had several accounts for which he was caught and banned and is now campaigning in retribution for the punishment he received for his dishonest acts. Betcoin.ag was protecting it's players from this cheater by banning him and now he has been manipulating facts to bash on betcoin."

However, even if you could prove me guilty of everything you claim (you can't becasue I'm not) it would not change the reality of the situation.  All of my accusations have been based on fact, not opninion.  Nobody needs to take my word or trust me in the slightest to come to the same rational conclusion that Betcoin is a dishonest company with very little integrity.


OHYEAH was me.  Zero other accounts "were me".

Make a scam accusation thread against me or respond in the thread I started in[ DO NOT POST SESC LINKS ] this thread:[/url]

You didn't say "how many accounts" you said "how many other accounts".  See:


Can you seriously not keep your wild accusations straight? 

You weren't OHYEAH?

Zero.

Even If I am a huge cheating multi-accounter (I'm not) do you think it would somehow make all the shit Betcoin has pulled go away?

Sir, I've been trying to ignore you for the past two years because you  are obviously mentally ill and deserve to be heard at least; however, now that your are directly attacking my credibility I must speak up.  You were kicked off of Betcoin.ag for multi-accounting which isn't fair to other players.  In fact, it is cheating.  After you threw a fit and promised not to cheat anymore betcoin.ag was kind enough to let you back on.  But, you got caught again!  Now banning you was the right thing to do in the interest of the rest of the players who play fair.  Since you were banned, you've been continuing your legacy to attack the site with distorted, twisted, and vague accusations.  I have kept an open mind and have kept up with your rants but none of your claims have merit enough call betcoin.ag a scam.  Yes, they have had some issues that they have remedied and made right, but what site hasn't been confronted with unforeseeable issues?

I've been quiet until now so that you might speak your mind but I was one of the players that was affected by your multi-accounting.  Here is a screenshot; how many of these players are you?  I am cjmToo on this list here....which ones are you?  I know OHYEAH is one of your accounts but how many others are on there.



This image was taken over a year ago.  Well, before betcoin.ag started it's signature campaign, so am I supporting betcoin.ag for the signature stipend?  No, I've been a player there for a long time.

It looks like someone is involved in dirty games here, and trying to pull others in..

Do not be fooled guys!

Keep your eyes open!

Ps. Using threats related to the use of force is a sign of weakness.

Betcoin.ag at it's finest.  ^^^^

I'll respond to the personal attacks when I get a chance in this thread along with the rest of them.

From -32 to -8 improved Trust in just 3 days.  Very interesting to see everyone.  Are people starting to fully understand what is going on in regards to 2 of our 3 negative trusts that remain own or are deeply involved in direct online competitive casinos and at least two of the other negative trust reviews are owned by the same person...

And now Lutpin threatens to leave negative feedback on members of Betcoin's signature campaign.  We will see how that goes over with the bitcointalk community, moderators and staff.  As for Lutpin and Stunna leaving positive trust on twitchyseal...is that trustworthy?  Twitchyseal has created over 300 accounts at Betcoin and spams it everyday with gay porn, impersonating players and staff and anything else you can think of.  He begs websites to take down their positive reviews of Betcoin and they ignore him.  Twitchyseal has a voice here which is great and it is supported and fueled by some of our competitors which is disappointing to us but we understand.  The irony is people harp on trust through this thread but clearly there is nothing more untrustworthy.  

The real fact is that this hasn't effected Betcoin's players or volume in a negative way, in fact it has been positive delivering us new players because most people are smart enough to see through the bs and the trolling.  

We can take the trolling and the bs as it comes with being successful, but individuals should not be threatened and everyone here including the staff realize that.  It will be interesting to see what happens to the trust of those that threaten other people.

All we are continuing to do is provide a great place to play and many hundreds of people appreciate that everyday as well as a great signature campaign to our great participants and we will continue to do so.  

Hey, when are you going to pay people back from the coins you scammed when you under-converted from buying into WPN tournaments?

Also, when are you going to stop having Betsoft games in your casino?  Are you going to pay Jason back from the jackpot he hit?  Speaking of which, when are you going to answer his questions about the way you mismanaged his experience? 

Please remove your signature until you have time to investigate.  They are deceptively passing the blame on to a company that has not responded, has a history of unethical behavior, and very possibly has the same owners as Betcoin. 
 
If you don't understand something, jsut ask.  There's a lot of poker/casino language used that someone who isn't involved in that kind of thing may not understand.

Every post you make has "Betcoin.ag - The most trusted Bitcoin and Litecoin Casino" included in it as of right now.  

Anyone who promotes Betcoin should be held accountable for Betcoins behavior, much like any site that offers Betsoft should be held accountable for Betsofts actions.

And yet you have time to advertise their site? Seems hypocritical isn't it?


Don't get bitched by someone who is doing good in the forum by giving you negative trust. You are advertising a site which is ALREADY proven scam. Don't think that being ignorant and bitching against someone will let you free from negative trust.
The negative trust is to be given (and should be given) so that it remarks other members how irresponsible and naive you are by blindly trusting a scummy website.

Tl;dr: Those who are blindly trusting a scam are even a part of it. So you boy, are getting a -ve trust from DT no matter how much you bitch against it, you money hungry punk!

cmjoles, that's not what 'extortion' means.  Why are you against people getting negative trust for being accessories to fraud?  Seems like that's the point of the trust system, no?  

It seems like Betcoin is trying to circumvent the trust system by paying people to shill for their site, while they stay quiet in the face of customer complaints.  Their trust rating is horrible, including serious accusations from three people on the DT list.  Why shouldn't potentially victims be made aware of what's going on?

My point was towards that guy that I simply do not trust (i'm referring to Lutpin).

I am considering to think about my signature. I have not had time to read the whole story. It seems the problem was not of betcoin but the software house did a mess.

If my decision will be to remove my sig I will donate what I am getting to some charity.

My friend, money is just an instrument. It's what you do with it that matters

Defending Betcoin would have much better results imo.  You can't though, because there is no excuse for their behavior.  So instead you attack anyone who tries to hold them accountable.

Betcoin has been caught lying numerous times, have you even looked at the accusations?  Or do you simply choose to be ignorant so you can justify accepting money from them in exchange for putting "Betcoin.ag the most trusted Bitcoin and Litecoin Casino" in your signature?


If you insist on being paid by betcoin to put "Betcoin.ag - the most trusted" in your signature, you should not be trusted.  since every post you make will include a blatant lie.

You are affected by serious delusions of grandeur my friend.
Your trust will not say anything regarding my reputation.

I would like to join the campaign sign
pm me for change signature campaign and avatar
thanks