Topic: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker - page 4. (Read 367778 times)

I think betcoin.ag is a scam

LOL, what?

Always when people send money to a publicly proven scam they are at risk to become a victim at any time and any day!

Not only is Betcoin.ag a publicly proven scam, their business model is also not sustainable. According to your 133% rakeback offer, they pay people 33% to play poker there. What a bad testimony for a site if you have to pay 33% to draw customers in...

But no one explains from where the 33% are coming? And the ton of money they pay for advertisement? Ahh wait, they did not pay a $400,000 jackpot, so maybe they use that money for their expensive behaviour...  

How much is rakeback for WPN tournaments?

It is more than clear that the revenue of Betcoin.ag decreased recently. People are stupid, but not so stupid and not so many as you might think...

No DarkDays, there are no potential victims at the poker room.  The reason I lock the thread is because you and Twitchy continue to spam it with non POKER related things, and if you take a look at the last few pages of the thread, it's turned into a battlefield between members of the service and you guys.

No, he locked the thread in order to keep people from warning potential victims.

You'll notice he keeps posting several times a week and re-locking it.  Nobody would do that unless they have something they are trying to hide.  Shadiness personified.  Be VERY careful.

2. Xiaoxiao is a big affliate there, and he has profited over 100 btc(just my speculation) I think xiaoxiao earned enough, so he locked his thread. Xiaoxiao didn't lose anything, he ahs hundreds of downlines can earn very decent money per month.

Where is daily surprise box? It is fucking 1 month, I don't get anything from 1 month, will you compensate us??  

2. Xiaoxiao is a big affliate there, and he has profited over 100 btc(just my speculation) I think xiaoxiao earned enough, so he locked his thread. Xiaoxiao didn't lose anything, he ahs hundreds of downlines can earn very decent money per month.

2. Xiaoxiao is a big affliate there, and he has profited over 100 btc(just my speculation) I think xiaoxiao earned enough, so he locked his thread. Xiaoxiao didn't lose anything, he ahs hundreds of downlines can earn very decent money per month.

Where is daily surprise box? It is fucking 1 month, I don't get anything from 1 month, will you compensate us??  

This shows just how clueless you really are, LOL. You should just stick to trying to scam people = LMAO!




Maybe so. And if that's how people want to view it, that's certainly their right. If expressing my opinion on the value and perks of Betcoin's VIP rakeback program bothers someone or causes them to make some sort of judgement about me, then oh well. C'est la vie. Fortunately for me, my happiness isn't determined by what random people whom I don't know on the internet think about me.

I'm certainly not bothered by all the betcoin haters out there who act like jilted, disgruntled ex-girlfriends of famous professional athletes, obsessed and hell bent on bringing down their ex-lover any way possible. I'm sure these people couldn't care less what others think of them either. So, it's all good.

Since your beef seemed directed at Betcoin, I purposefully stayed out of it all since I'm sure Betcoin is capable of fighting its own battles in their own way. That and I didn't want to directly muck up your course of action by posting comments which might be taken as trolling. But since you appear to be calling me out by quoting me, I'll go ahead and bite. (Not in the mood to do anything else right now since my Dallas Cowboys lost ugly today.)


How do you feel about the issues which have been brought up over the past several pages of this thread?

I do think pretty much all of the issues you and others have brought up are very valid. It's no joke anytime reputations, integrity and money is involved/at stake.


Did you read them?

Yes.

From the no collusion freeroll, a cheater getting a second chance, BBJP funding, missing status points, ddos cheaters, noncompensations for funds lost due to cheaters, the wpn satty points issue, let's see, what else, deleted posts/threads on the betcoin.ag community forums, shill posts in the community forum and here on bitcointalk, how all these issues have been handled by support via tickets, support chat, community chat, community forum threads/posts.

There may be more so forgive me if I'm missing anything else.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gather, you don't have a problem as much with the actual mistakes made, but moreso with how they are/were handled by betcoin staff,  reps and support. At least that's what I remember reading in some of your posts.


Do you not believe they happened?  Or do you think it's acceptable?

I do believe the issues you brought up occurred. The initial mistakes themselves, I can accept. How these initial mistakes were subsequently handled, I do find somewhat dubious in some aspects. So I would lean towards the way some things were handled as being unacceptable.  In other cases, without going into detail, I have no opinion either way.

However, just because I do find the way some things were handled to be on the unacceptable side, it doesn't mean that going forward that these blemeshies can't be learned from, improved upon, remedied and taken care of with a more positive resolution for all those concerned if and when other similar or nonsimilar issues crop up in the future. That's how I reconcile my continued play at Betcoin.ag aside from all the positive things that they offer their players.


Not trying to attack you, just not understanding how or why so many are choosing to endorse Betcoin because they they don't have issues with withdraws/offer WPN tourneys/have low rake etc...while acting as if none of the problems within the thread even exist.  If you don't believe me, or think theyre no big deal I would understand, but why not say so?  If you want to do some good for Betcoin, prove I'm wrong.

How and why I am I choosing to endorse Betcoin other than because of all the pros and in light of the issues you bring up? I'll repeat what I just wrote above: However, just because I do find the way some things were handled to be on the unacceptable side, it doesn't mean that going forward that these blemeshies can't be learned from, improved upon, remedied and taken care of with a more positive resolution for all those concerned if and when other similar or nonsimilar issues crop up in the future. That's how I reconcile my continued play at Betcoin.ag aside from all the positive things that they offer their players.

Form whatever judgments and opinions of me for continuing to give Betcoin my action as you wish, anyone is certainly entitled and welcome to do so.

As far as proving you wrong, I feel no compelling need or desire whatsoever to do so. If your intentions with this whole endeavor are genuinely in the name of helping out the poker community and not because you are butthurt, then more power to you. If your crusade helps those for whom the issues you bring up about Betcoin are a dealbreaker as far as choosing a poker site where they will be happy, then good on ya too. Respect.