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I can not get into the poker room
when I do not use VPN n have no other account
only one that I use

username : rindo

Thanks for the explanation and seems like its not a bonus for everyone. Myself I would never want to deposit that much and be tied to so such high wagering. IMO, those type of bonuses are for suckers.

Anyways, now that you talk about the provability and fairness of games but can you fix the blackjack. You have only blackjack game on planet where the dealer hits a hard 17 just because he drew an Ace at some point. This might help players somtimes but at other times going to burn player when he has made 18-21 and dealer hits bs hard 17 to beat him and player get upset because thats NOT how the rules work in blackjack game. Your sites been up for a long time I find it tough believe that no one has brought this to your attention sooner and why it hasn't already been fixed. Now that I think about it can you link me to your Rules page for Blackjack, I had a hard time finding out the rules on your game. If you have it set to for dealer to hit hard 17 then so be it but I would like to to read the rules.

Hi betcointm..
Could you whitelist me too.. i never use vpn to access poker room.
But before i have 2 account and it has been resolve.
The 2 account never associated each other and i never log in anymore with another account.
And i just use 1 account now..
Thats cybernick.
Thank you for understanding..

OK I will have to whitelist you, no problem.

same error. ;-(

"Sorry, access to our multiplayer poker room is restricted for VPN users or users who have multiple accounts. Please disable your VPN to access the poker room and contact our support if you have multiple accounts, so we can provide access to poker for you"

Try it now.

The amount available for withdraw after you unlock the bonus is the original bonus amount. We will not ever make your deposit unavailable to withdraw, so in your case the amount to withdraw would be 4.01 BTC.

When you deposit your own money into the bonus and bet you're not wagering the original amount toward the bonus and therefore the bonus is cancelled. Even if the bonus wasn't cancelled the 10 BTC would still be able to be withdrawn because it's your deposit, not bonus funds.

It isn't supposed to be an appealing amount to someone looking for a reliable way to make money, as these are games of chance. We give you a fair shot to unlock the bonus, and however unlikely as it may be (no-deposit bonus as I said is about 1/1000, and match bonus is somewhere in the ballpark of 1/750 - these aren't your odds these are the users that successfully unlock it) you can do it. It's very similar to a lottery ticket. A huge +EV for players at a low to minimal cost, but pretty unlikely. The purpose of these bonuses is to show that our system works and make you comfortable with the system and its functionalities, and it doesn't hurt that the added value comes from the opportunity to win very, very big.

The games are provably fair, the reward is high (but unlikely), and the risk in these types of bonuses (especially the no-deposit bonus) are minimal to none.

That being said, we are working on making our deposit bonus a bit different to give good EV to depositors over time. That's in the pipeline but nowhere near being ready to give any concrete numbers or even speculate as to how it would work.

Maybe I'm making my posts too long.

Suppose I deposit 1 BTC. I get 3.01 extra, for a total of 4.01 BTC. I then wager enough to clear the bonus, and end up with 100 BTC in my balance. How much of my balance will you let me keep, and how much will you confiscate? Can I withdraw 3.01, because that's the bonus amount, or 4.01? What if I deposit a further 10 BTC before I have finished clearing the bonus. Then how much can I withdraw once it is clear?

For you to withdraw any of the winnings you get with the bonus amount, you will need to bet your  deposit + bonus amount times 388x on any of our provably fair games. So if you deposit 1 BTC you'll get a bonus of about 3 BTC, and you'll need to wager 4 * 388 in order to unlock the 3 BTC bonus.

The first-deposit bonus is easier (by a lot) to unlock than the no-deposit bonus. It's still unlikely to unlock, but it's a game in and of itself that carries no risk (as you can withdraw your deposit at any time).

You can also request a match bonus more than once with the same terms.

If the original bonus amount is 2 BTC, and you bet the ¬1100 BTC required to unlock it, then the 2 BTC is available to withdraw, not what remains in your account after meeting the requirement.

I realize you were talking about something else, and that you included several Dice Games, but I'm sort of hard-wired with 1.65%, and I apologize for that. Like I said - there's not wool being pulled over your eyes as that house edge (and the other games) was and is available on the How To Play page the whole time. I didn't say that you were 'supposed' to know there was a consolation prize for Dice, but I just pointed it out because it affects the house edge. I'm not saying you were 'wrong' about anything - just that there was information that could help you calculate it.

It would be useful to have it in text form to make a paper backup, and we will have to consider adding this option. Thanks for the suggestion.

You seem to be talking about the no-deposit bonus. I wasn't. You failed to quote the post you were responding to. Here it is:


See, I was saying that the "first deposit bonus" is worthless, and that it is much better for the player to reject the bonus. Do you disagree?

I'm also not clear about this:


So again you had misunderstood what I was talking about? I clearly said I was talking about dice. I even included screenshots of various dice games including yours.

You didn't respond to my question about how I was meant to know there's a 0.5% refund for losing dice bets.


OK, I see it now. I couldn't see it before. Is it new?

It would be useful if you could provide the secret in text form as well as QR-code form, so I can make a paper backup of it.

The bonus isn't worthless. It is to test out the provably fair system and try your luck at unlocking an enormous amount of money without having to make a single deposit. Just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it's worthless. Even a lottery ticket costs a dollar.

About 1/1000 people unlock the bonus, and about 1/10 of those do it without creating multiple accounts. That's good odds when you consider it is a free shot at winning that sum of money. As I said, there was a guy that recently did it and cashed out over 2,000 USD, so I'm not sure I agree with you on that point.

AFAIK, the house edge is and has always been 1.65% for BetCoin Circle, which is our most popular game. The house advantage of Dice is 1.88%, as you said. I'm not trying to withhold information from you I am simply used to people asking about Circle, not Dice. Apologies.

We have 2FA.

I don't see any mention of this 0.5% refund. Where can I find it?

Under "How to Play" I see:


It's clear, but it's such poor value I wondered if it might be incorrect. Players would be much better off refusing this "bonus" than to have their winnings limited by those terms.


You completely skipped my last question about security and 2FA.

We actually manually unlocked those types of accounts (though I see you somehow claimed two, but that's not relevant). It looks like you were locked from poker because your IP is from a VPN. We're doing some updates now and will post here.

Gonna play some Hi Lo, wish me luck guys

I'm using the account which you gave when there was 0.01 giveaway some time ago. I think I have another account before but never use it and lost the password and the username as well. Do I included to those who use multi account?
My username that u gave : roboticsfilms Hope you check it too. thanks

DM me about your Twitter participation, please. Not sure what happened there.

Update !!!
I've received a withdrawal  thank you betcoin.tm for free  
for new users withdrawal  will be sent after the of verifying address I hope this helps

thank you for the information. I already send an email to support for my username.
please check my account. thank you

just curious about your 12btc no deposit bonus , will you pay if someone was able to achieve that insane wager requirements ??
cause I'm working on it right now  

There is also a lock on Poker if you have multiple accounts. We're not saying that everyone does this out of malicious intent, but the fact is we can't risk it for our regular players. If you're having problems, contact support on the website or send an email to [email protected] and we'll check out your account to see the issue.