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legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
What is the reason that stunna said this casino is a scam?
If you stop being lazy and spamming your sig, and read a three paged thread. Who knows you might find "The answer".
Seriously though....

Indeed, he doesn't even need to read 3 pages of posts but just to click the Trust: below OP's avatar to see Stunna's feedback.

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
betcoin.tm Highest BTC Payouts in the World!
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my withdrawal delayed to 5 days. nice


update: i reached the rollover for $25 no deposit bonus, when i tried to withdraw. they locked the account with so many reasons like accusing me have multiple accounts etc without any proof.



never play at betcoin.tm it wasting time and fooling you, stunna was right they are shady. untrustworthy.
that's my experience. please share your experience.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
When are you going to pay for the sig. competition ? The deadline was 2 days ago and the winners have been announced, but the thread got locked and nothing happened since.

ty for answer

Other than that I am happy with the site, i tried one of their promos earlier on bitcointalk and got payed after I wagered the bonus Smiley

The winners have been paid and all entrants are being processed now Smiley

When will you pay the enterants?
I Messaged you twice and you didn't replied even once.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
If you're looking for proof the site isn't a scam - look at the fact that we have third party providers. Within a couple of months we are going to integrate with even more.

No one is saying you are going to rig the rolls but more likely that you are misleading your player. All your bonuses require a crazy amount of rollover which in the end is almost like stealing money from your player softly. Not to mention some other crazy rules that doog pointed out regarding the bonuses
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
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Since i cant get no deposit bonus with my previous account. Ive created another account for playing there.
But seems like the rollover are very high 100x its nearly impossible to get that.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I once played here and I was a constrained by withdraw on your site, and it lasted until 2 days ... but I do feedback and now I have received ..

I hope in the future of your site better
Thank  Grin

congrats dude, nice to see you get your payment, i hope this site is legit, but 2 days is long, but how many bitcoins did u withdraw from this site? if this site has turned out to be legit in the end, i will remove the neg rate from op, i hope no scam in the world especially bitcoin community

and yes 2 days is far too long, it must be instant withdrawal as many sites did.
i just have requested 0.6 btc withdraw and it's say error, let's see how long it will takes and administrator to respond.

I replied to you in DM and I think a support agent emailed you as well concerning the issue.



i received your pm, but it's too slow to respond. received the email too but it's a noreply email
how i can make a conversation with noreply email? please respond this.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
What is the reason that stunna said this casino is a scam?
If you stop being lazy and spamming your sig, and read a three paged thread. Who knows you might find "The answer".
Seriously though....
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
If you're looking for proof the site isn't a scam - look at the fact that we have third party providers. Within a couple of months we are going to integrate with even more.

This proves nothing. There are multiple scam accusation threads against  you, stunna basically said you are SCAMMERS. And you dont have instant withdrawals. Pretty sketchy, would not trust you with my money.

What is the reason that stunna said this casino is a scam?
sr. member
Activity: 244
Merit: 250
If you're looking for proof the site isn't a scam - look at the fact that we have third party providers. Within a couple of months we are going to integrate with even more.

This proves nothing. There are multiple scam accusation threads against  you, stunna basically said you are SCAMMERS. And you dont have instant withdrawals. Pretty sketchy, would not trust you with my money.
donator
Activity: 672
Merit: 500

Pretty strong quote by stuuna here. Hes pretty trusted in the community and this may be the nail in the coffin for betcoin.tm
Yeah some opinions from NLNico(DT 2 member, busted many cloudmining dice and blackfriday scam etc)
Betcoin.tm has a long history (~3 years) of scam accusations (just google: "betcoin.tm" site:bitcointalk.org).

@OP: I would love to see a "main thread" of you guys, so these issues could be discussed (since obviously some are old accusations and most might be about the bonus / incorrect.)


The "about" page has some cool things too:
- "BetCoin™ is the world’s most advanced online gaming network" (I would argue that something like PokerStars, who caters half a million people at the same time in a game of poker, is more advanced, but sure..)
- "BetCoin™ games have the lowest house edge and the highest return to player ratio (RTP) available worldwide" (on dice they claim to have 1.88% HE, but even seems 2.1%? either way not lowest.)
- "BetCoin™ customers don’t need to worry about their funds’ safety, as they enjoy state-of-the-art, hacker-proof security" (nothing is "hacker-proof" Tongue)
- "BetCoin™ offers the widest range of bet sizes, from less than 1 tenth of a penny, to over 1 million USD per bet." (I find it unlikely that they can afford a max profit of 2800 BTC per bet?)
- etc.


Overall, I am always willing to "hear both sides" though. So if we could have a main thread so we can discuss these things further, it would be great. Maybe you can convince me that your site is not a scam.
For doog's opinion, see the post above Nico's

If you're looking for proof the site isn't a scam - look at the fact that we have third party providers. Within a couple of months we are going to integrate with even more.
donator
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
I once played here and I was a constrained by withdraw on your site, and it lasted until 2 days ... but I do feedback and now I have received ..

I hope in the future of your site better
Thank  Grin

congrats dude, nice to see you get your payment, i hope this site is legit, but 2 days is long, but how many bitcoins did u withdraw from this site? if this site has turned out to be legit in the end, i will remove the neg rate from op, i hope no scam in the world especially bitcoin community

and yes 2 days is far too long, it must be instant withdrawal as many sites did.
i just have requested 0.6 btc withdraw and it's say error, let's see how long it will takes and administrator to respond.

I replied to you in DM and I think a support agent emailed you as well concerning the issue.

hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7

Pretty strong quote by stuuna here. Hes pretty trusted in the community and this may be the nail in the coffin for betcoin.tm
Yeah some opinions from NLNico(DT 2 member, busted many cloudmining dice and blackfriday scam etc)
Betcoin.tm has a long history (~3 years) of scam accusations (just google: "betcoin.tm" site:bitcointalk.org).

@OP: I would love to see a "main thread" of you guys, so these issues could be discussed (since obviously some are old accusations and most might be about the bonus / incorrect.)


The "about" page has some cool things too:
- "BetCoin™ is the world’s most advanced online gaming network" (I would argue that something like PokerStars, who caters half a million people at the same time in a game of poker, is more advanced, but sure..)
- "BetCoin™ games have the lowest house edge and the highest return to player ratio (RTP) available worldwide" (on dice they claim to have 1.88% HE, but even seems 2.1%? either way not lowest.)
- "BetCoin™ customers don’t need to worry about their funds’ safety, as they enjoy state-of-the-art, hacker-proof security" (nothing is "hacker-proof" Tongue)
- "BetCoin™ offers the widest range of bet sizes, from less than 1 tenth of a penny, to over 1 million USD per bet." (I find it unlikely that they can afford a max profit of 2800 BTC per bet?)
- etc.


Overall, I am always willing to "hear both sides" though. So if we could have a main thread so we can discuss these things further, it would be great. Maybe you can convince me that your site is not a scam.
For doog's opinion, see the post above Nico's
donator
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
What I don't like is the complicated withdraw process that players need to sign message of their bitcoin address.


This casino has a reputation of being shady in the past by declining lot of withdrawal which you can find at the scam accusation as well as giving bonus with crazy rollover which prevent people from wtihdrawing their deposit, it is best to not play with your own money here

I know about it, so that's why I never deposited my own money in this site Wink Just played when there is something like no deposit bonus or giveaway to be honest.

I think that having players sign their withdrawal addresses is the most responsible and secure thing to do, considering the alternatives.
donator
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Was going to try this but the comments about cashing out is pushing me away from it, please can others with experience comment on it.

If you want to try, I will give you 0.01 with a 1X rollover. If you don't enjoy it, fair enough! But we hope you give it a try - we have a lot to choose from!
donator
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
When are you going to pay for the sig. competition ? The deadline was 2 days ago and the winners have been announced, but the thread got locked and nothing happened since.

ty for answer

Other than that I am happy with the site, i tried one of their promos earlier on bitcointalk and got payed after I wagered the bonus Smiley

The winners have been paid and all entrants are being processed now Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 4554
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Was going to try this but the comments about cashing out is pushing me away from it, please can others with experience comment on it.
I for one would advise you to stay away. From my last post:

Well you're hearing wrong man personally I experienced them paying out it might not an instant payment because they process withdrawal manually but rest assured that your going to be paid ,  I received my payout in this site several times it is very trusted. Their customer support is also nice.
Just because your tiny payout bonus may have been processed doesn't mean they are not scam. They are very shady, with their unbelievable bonus(14 BTC no deposit, yeah right..) and their shady past, I wouldn't advise anyone to play on their site until it is well recieved by the community.
Just search for "betcoin.tm scam" will ya?
A quote from Stunna:
http://bitcoinsource.net/betcoin-tms-allegedly-fraudulent-unethical-and-illegal-activity/   (Good summary of their unethical behavior)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoindicetm-untrustworthy-fakes-volume-makes-house-bets-on-blockchain-297110

Betcoin.TM has always been at best incredibly sketchy and deceptive and at worst an outright scam. Erik Voorhees was convinced that they were ddosing Satoshidice for quite some time. betcoin.tm and 999dice are two websites I would never trust with a single satoshi.

Pretty strong quote by stuuna here. Hes pretty trusted in the community and this may be the nail in the coffin for betcoin.tm
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
Was going to try this but the comments about cashing out is pushing me away from it, please can others with experience comment on it.
I for one would advise you to stay away. From my last post:

Well you're hearing wrong man personally I experienced them paying out it might not an instant payment because they process withdrawal manually but rest assured that your going to be paid ,  I received my payout in this site several times it is very trusted. Their customer support is also nice.
Just because your tiny payout bonus may have been processed doesn't mean they are not scam. They are very shady, with their unbelievable bonus(14 BTC no deposit, yeah right..) and their shady past, I wouldn't advise anyone to play on their site until it is well recieved by the community.
Just search for "betcoin.tm scam" will ya?
A quote from Stunna:
http://bitcoinsource.net/betcoin-tms-allegedly-fraudulent-unethical-and-illegal-activity/   (Good summary of their unethical behavior)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoindicetm-untrustworthy-fakes-volume-makes-house-bets-on-blockchain-297110

Betcoin.TM has always been at best incredibly sketchy and deceptive and at worst an outright scam. Erik Voorhees was convinced that they were ddosing Satoshidice for quite some time. betcoin.tm and 999dice are two websites I would never trust with a single satoshi.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
Was going to try this but the comments about cashing out is pushing me away from it, please can others with experience comment on it.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
What I don't like is the complicated withdraw process that players need to sign message of their bitcoin address.


This casino has a reputation of being shady in the past by declining lot of withdrawal which you can find at the scam accusation as well as giving bonus with crazy rollover which prevent people from wtihdrawing their deposit, it is best to not play with your own money here
well i know i got 0.01 bonus from them and i made it to 0.03 and cashed out normaly but i didnt deposit there any bigger amount so but i think they are fair.
regards.
-Katerniko1

Because you have withdrawn few dollars that doesnt make them fair compare your few bucks from the people who are trying to withdraw thousand of dollars but they're not getting any response from the site nor even in this forum. Shadiest casino ever..
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Yeah,they just locked that thread of sig design competition.Everyone who participated should get 0.01 btc but nothing till now..They just announced the winners..what's going on?when will we be paid?
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