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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 10:33:53 AM

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 19, 2023, 02:36:17 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 11:34:30 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 10:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 10:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

It is obvious that Betnomi played with the trust customers had in them. What they are doing now should have been what they should have done from the very beginning of their internal struggles. Customers funds are what they should not be joking about or fighting over. The funds do not belong to them but to the customers, just as Wiwo has said, and as such, they should not be held for a long time without granting customers access. Their internal misunderstanding should just be within them, as this is business and their is no need to suspend withdrawal as the funds do not belong to them. This singular act they have done would definitely wreck the reputation they have built over the past years.

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Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 04:33:58 PM

Over the past two years, we have developed our own casino software, risk management engine, and other valuable intellectual property worth millions of dollars. We intend to leverage this expertise to rebuild a stronger brand in the future.

We will provide an update on our reimbursement plan and schedule as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

It's a pleasure indeed hearing from "Betnomi" casino representative once again about the state of your casino and possible way forward after series of several scam accusations led against you, of which I'm happy to hear you guys having plans on resolving all claims, both deposit & withdrawal issues led against your casino. But if only had you come up to tell the bitcoin community about this challenge long time ago, we all would have understood and remain patient enough knowing fully well you guys were under attack. And however, it is never too late to prove your reputation, but if only you can keep to your world and not act like 1xbit,

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 11:34:30 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 10:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 10:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

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I’m wondering if there is any update about this matter after one of Betnomi showed, still my opinion the same as my first reply here. I want only to see if anyone here from the players of Betnomi casino who has pending funds with them received any repayment yet, or at least got contacted by them.

As many of users mentioned, I believe that the process of refund should be quick and sharing any latest updates. I’m sure it’s not just a small hope for the users now but a big one and should stay the same until they all get their funds.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 19, 2023, 04:08:34 AM

I was one of the user that probably made withdrawal when someone posted in their thread that the betnomi is not processing any withdrawal then there were alot of complaints in the telegram chat as well. I received the whole amount that I requested but I believe there were some users still affected as well because iirc I told @jayce about this then he immediately requested withdrawal as well but never received them until the whole site was down

Actually it was too late for me to request the withdrawal. I just thought it would be a temporary maintenance and decided to wait Undecided

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 10:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 10:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 10:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

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In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

I know that perhaps many people have previously put their trust in your site, whether it is still there or has been lost, because it is difficult if someone's trust has been damaged just because they feel abandoned by the site owner, but whatever it is, you have explained it in detail here, it all comes back to the user. each of you. Glad to hear you're back again Wink

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Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 04:33:58 PM

Unfortunately, following this decision, certain individuals engaged in backroom deals to extract Betnomi's intellectual property and resources for the purpose of launching a new casino independently. These actions resulted in significant damage to Betnomi and its users. Critical system resources were restricted, and the database became inaccessible, preventing users from withdrawing their balances.

This is quite a long time because allowing people on this forum to speculate wildly does not provide a guarantee that user funds will be returned in the near future. So it's not strange if there is a danger flag stuck to his clothes. With several parties severing ties and instead building new casinos, this means we need to be wary of new casinos built by them potentially doing the same thing in the future.

I expect Betnomi to share the name of the new casino they will be launching. We also need to be careful not to fall into the abyss of the game. Building a new casino from the funds of victimized users is clearly considered a completely unjustified act.

I believe you came with good intentions and tried to answer the questions of many people who are quite tired of waiting for confirmation. Apart from taking legal action with related parties, the victims will still claim the same demands until everything is paid off.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 19, 2023, 04:08:34 AM

Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 01:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time

Unless they start refunding affected user then so far they are not restoring any of their reputation at all. Especially after coming back months after the incident

Until all the cases are resolved I will remain neutral because this is not a small amount of loss for many users. So we will see whether Betnomi continues its work. No matter what is happening behind the scenes, affected users should get their funds back as quickly as possible. And of course restoring the reputation of a casino on this forum is not easy, in some cases many casinos intend to correct their mistakes but until now they have disappeared somewhere.

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Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 01:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time because however we realize that this problem is not easy to resolve in a short time. To every user who has been harmed, you can monitor every development from Betnomi. I hope that Betnomi can also be transparent about every development that is being made so that we can see where this problem has reached.

The first step will determine everything, you and Betnomi have done the right thing and informed the status of what actually happened. Gradually I am sure that user charges and funds can be returned.

Yes they are trying to show that they want to restore their reputation by saying they would pay their past affected users. But we should not conclude anything good yet since the refund hasn't been started. If they make this refund process came into reality and not just a plan then for sure with this they can possibly restore their reputation and can launch their new brand in this forum. Many want to see that refund process to happen since it will show that there's a platform which has been compromised show some great action towards those bad incident happen on their casino.

Betnomi now gaining a little bit of trust here so if they continue to make it happen then for sure that many would get convince that they are not here for scamming but rather here to deal with serious business and offer some great platform to their gamblers.

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Betnomi was once favourite platform for many forum users because we used to play poker series on it. Not just once or twice but multiple times. It’s was hurting when I first saw the discussion about Betnomi going down.

It’s good to see that same platform is now making efforts to overcome the black Ink that was put on their casino. The damage is definitely out of hands in terms of casino trust. I’m not sure how much it will get recovered after you guys refund the money but many peeps will be happy about it for sure.

I think clashes in between partners is not new when it comes to business that has grown millions of dollars worth. Unfortunately money makes it worst. Whether it is strong friendship or close family, Money destroys everything.

Let’s hope you guys sort it for the good and maybe make a come back soon.

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Quote from: betnomi on November 17, 2023, 08:42:41 AM

Everyone with a significant balance, that is, an amount greater than $5,000 USD, has already made a complaint in the forum, and there are only about four or five of those. This is because we processed all pending withdrawals before taking the site into maintenance mode.

I was one of the user that probably made withdrawal when someone posted in their thread that the betnomi is not processing any withdrawal then there were alot of complaints in the telegram chat as well. I received the whole amount that I requested but I believe there were some users still affected as well because iirc I told @jayce about this then he immediately requested withdrawal as well but never received them until the whole site was down

Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 01:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time

Unless they start refunding affected user then so far they are not restoring any of their reputation at all. Especially after coming back months after the incident

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Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time because however we realize that this problem is not easy to resolve in a short time. To every user who has been harmed, you can monitor every development from Betnomi. I hope that Betnomi can also be transparent about every development that is being made so that we can see where this problem has reached.

The first step will determine everything, you and Betnomi have done the right thing and informed the status of what actually happened. Gradually I am sure that user charges and funds can be returned.

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Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 04:33:58 PM

We are pursuing legal action against this entity.

Win the legal battle first then come to this community. At this point you have no credibility at all.

Quote from: betnomi on November 17, 2023, 08:42:41 AM

Second, the issue has become a legal one, and it is important to not comment on such matters without understanding the potential legal exposure.

Then why are you crying here. Come back with the documents showing the case closed in your favor.

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I will be personally covering the refunds from my own funds. We are exploring other options at this point, but every single user will be completely refunded in full. We would not have made an announcement about the refund unless we were positive we could get it done. Fortunately, the total balance of users on the platform is relatively small, so this is entirely doable.

If that was relatively small then I don't think you were going to take this much risk to surrender the brand image that it built over the time. Right now you are asking us to believe your words. You know it's not going to work.

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There were more than one owner of Betnomi (partners). We will not be releasing the names or any other information related to the partners at this point because it is unnecessary and there are potential legal consequences for doing so.

I see. So you aka Sorsis lied all the time with us now you are talking about partners?

Do you know in the gambling section you can not create more than one topic for a single gambling site? Read One thread per site ONLY and get the hell out of here.

First fix everything, comeback with blockchain references, court documents and then speak whatever you have to say. Scam accusation board is the best place for you.

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Quote from: Stayzor on November 17, 2023, 02:40:22 PM

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I will be personally covering the refunds from my own funds. We are exploring other options at this point, but every single user will be completely refunded in full. We would not have made an announcement about the refund unless we were positive we could get it done. Fortunately, the total balance of users on the platform is relatively small, so this is entirely doable.

As one of the customers with funds still left in my betnomi account, I appricate this clarification. Action speaks lounder than words though. So lets see action.

This one big step that the betnomi team have taken ohhhh sorry, their are no longer Betnomi since that domain name has been stolen and dented with red tags due to the inappropriate behaviour and stealing of customer money and locking the withdrawal feature which was an exit scam against the customer.

But now the team behind the success of the former company have come out to give so. E refund promises to their customer which is how a reputable team should handle such a situation.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 18, 2023, 02:07:43 PM

Quote from: Hispo on November 17, 2023, 06:57:54 PM

One cannot compare Betnomi with that other casino just yet, because they are not close of doing the same, for us to start to compare both of them, then Betnomi would have not even come back with a okey enough of an explanation and instead of it, just start and signature campaign for their website (which is not even up), ignore all what happened, ban victims of the scam off their platform and just continue with red tags and make people who join their campaign to also get red tags.
So as it stands for now, we are not talking about the same actions and approaches. Let us see who this goes though, hopefully this won't end in empty promises and expectations being flushed down the toilet (again).

Well we can't say anything for now and let see what they will do within a Month period of time to see if they can reimburse the funds back to the customers. Because no scam will come to the public and say they have scammed participants and customers so they want to refund but instead they would use well frame stories to sweeting the whole thing. My born of contention here is let them pay the campaign manager and the participants plus their customers and restore their reputation and the people's trust.

As I said earlier we have seen such sweet stories before but put it into action is always a problem but I believe Betmoni case will be different.

I dont know if i had just completely forgotten or simply wasnt aware that there are some gambling platforms which it turns out to become a scam or having those kind of fund issues or whatever correlated to it
and then sooner or later they did make that solution into that problem and goes back into the market as if there's nothing happened. Yes, we've seen about those scam casinos/gambling platforms
but having that a comeback then im not aware if there's one. If there's any then better to mention it out at least so that we could make out some comparison whether their reputation has totally been
affected or people do really just simply moved on and it do looks that there's nothing happened.

We know that once trust had been broken then there's no way on getting it back into its original form or situation/condition. This is why if ever they would be succeeding on compensating or giving out those
pending amounts then it is good but hesitation and having no trust would really be the main issue on here. Dont know if they could maintain out their previous users to stay
or would really be just flock away on the time that they would get their money.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 17, 2023, 06:57:54 PM

One cannot compare Betnomi with that other casino just yet, because they are not close of doing the same, for us to start to compare both of them, then Betnomi would have not even come back with a okey enough of an explanation and instead of it, just start and signature campaign for their website (which is not even up), ignore all what happened, ban victims of the scam off their platform and just continue with red tags and make people who join their campaign to also get red tags.
So as it stands for now, we are not talking about the same actions and approaches. Let us see who this goes though, hopefully this won't end in empty promises and expectations being flushed down the toilet (again).

Well we can't say anything for now and let see what they will do within a Month period of time to see if they can reimburse the funds back to the customers. Because no scam will come to the public and say they have scammed participants and customers so they want to refund but instead they would use well frame stories to sweeting the whole thing. My born of contention here is let them pay the campaign manager and the participants plus their customers and restore their reputation and the people's trust.

As I said earlier we have seen such sweet stories before but put it into action is always a problem but I believe Betmoni case will be different.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on November 18, 2023, 06:24:14 AM

Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on November 17, 2023, 08:16:14 AM

It's a good step that management has taken to return user funds who have entered the betnomi site, however betnomi has become one of the gambling sites of choice for gambling players here because it is not so strict about KYC rules, I hope that in the future betnomi management can be even better in running the business they built, it is not easy to build the reputation of a gambling site, it takes years but the damage only takes less than 1 hour. Good luck with betnomi management and new plans you guys.

For my entire experience of casino of gambling in any platform I have not witnessed or seen any gambling platform that basically or sincerely done what Betnomi platform has done to their customers and secondly what I notice Betnomi did is to build up their reputation to another hierarchy in which the news of what they did now will continue circulating around the corner, so I believe that this will make people to be more comfortable and more balanced concerning their platform, for the areas of kyc verification I think is necessary and if Betnomi don't bother for verification of account I think its base known to them, in which I know that it's something that relates with them.but for me I can never fail to verify my account in any casino platform I choose to gamble with.

What’s done? There’s still nothing done here aside from promises of reimbursement plan. You are talking big about this and forgetting the fact that they become silent for almost half year. He claimed that he will use his own fund fund but this timing coincided on the pump of crypto market which no one knows if he is still holding the customer funds in background and just redistribute it in fiat value.

It’s better to wait on the actual action instead of hyping the casino prematurely without the solution or you might be an accessory to the scammer if ever they will not proceed on the reimbursement.

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