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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on November 19, 2023, 03:50:14 PM

Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 05:33:58 PM

Over the past two years, we have developed our own casino software, risk management engine, and other valuable intellectual property worth millions of dollars. We intend to leverage this expertise to rebuild a stronger brand in the future.

We will provide an update on our reimbursement plan and schedule as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

It's a pleasure indeed hearing from "Betnomi" casino representative once again about the state of your casino and possible way forward after series of several scam accusations led against you, of which I'm happy to hear you guys having plans on resolving all claims, both deposit & withdrawal issues led against your casino. But if only had you come up to tell the bitcoin community about this challenge long time ago, we all would have understood and remain patient enough knowing fully well you guys were under attack. And however, it is never too late to prove your reputation, but if only you can keep to your world and not act like 1xbit,

He could have told us before what was going on, sure; his clients and gamblers who still had money deposited there would have appreciated that gesture, but I assume it did not happen because this representative and the people left in the casino who were not involved with the exit scam were still trying to gather information on what was going on, they would have initially assumed all this mess was the result of some hacker messing around with their webpage and then gaining power over their private keys, but they later realized it was an inside job by their former associates. If they came and give a explanation too early, it could have resulted in inaccurate statements which could have make people to further experiment confusion and distrust towards their intentions.

Thay have already taken the first and most difficult step towards solving this mess, we can hope they manage to pay back the same community which home the casino.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 17, 2023, 10:19:49 AM

As expected, Sorsis Chatwin will come with the innocent owner role. Because, Sorsis personal information is visible publicly, isn't it? The forum only knew 'Sorsis' as the admin/owner of Betnomi. Now you are blaming unknown person by addressing them as a shady owner of Betnomi. Users data has been compromised from your database. Perhaps, whoever completed the KYC verification on your platform is at risk too.

This must be some very hush hush secret owner that nobody heard about until now Grin

It is interesting to see that al this time Betnomi website is working with same scheduled maintenance sorry error message.
I cant wait to see what is Sorsis going to do next, I think it is going to be new casino with new name.

Quote from: Poika5 on November 17, 2023, 11:30:08 AM

The guy on the left is Marin Zvonarević. His job title was 'Partner at Betnomi'.
It would be interesting to hear his side of the story.

Partner is not the same as owner of co-owner, but I doubt we are going to hear anything from this guy, whoever he is.

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Quote from: ultrloa on November 16, 2023, 07:09:26 PM

Great, that's what people waiting for and its good that there's a chance that they can recover back their funds on your platform. But also make sure you will not ask more conditions before legitimate users can withdraw their funds since it might dismay them.

Also guys since there's a refund plan for Betnomi users just be careful to those email claiming that they would refund you and ask some payment or try to ask your wallet information especially your private key since this is total scam. This happen for so many platform especially if they release a statement regarding on refund process that's why you should be aware of upcoming attempts of people who want to take advantage of situation.

And always look for news on legitimate Betnomi representative and don't go anywhere else.

Did you gamble your balance after it was deemed a scam?

Betnomi, if you truly have good intentions then you should be refunding users as of the balances at the time the websites reputation became a scam. Many users will have carelessly gambled their balances away due to thinking that they'd never get it back anyway.

While one may think that it's not appropriate to refund these users, I think it is, as if Betnomi had continued to operate normally then they would not have taken those actions and probably would have withdrawn.

What's the verdict on this Betnomi?

No one should trust this casino or this brand after 6 months of silence and funds held hostage... For all we know, the bull market may have allowed enough funds to be recouped - and this is gains that the users should have otherwise gotten

Take the refunds and go. Don"t even talk about using this casino post-refund.

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Quote from: Oilacris on November 19, 2023, 04:28:23 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on November 19, 2023, 04:23:17 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

I do agree that once a casino have this kind of issues then it would really be remembered forever on which means that reputation is really that permanently tarnished on which
it is really that hard on getting it back 100% way before but well they are really that trying to fix everything from here, so its not that bad for the public or into its users on giving them
the chance on the wrong things that they have done. Of course there would really be that hesitation and doubts which is something that cant be avoided but time will tell
on whether they would really be getting back those trust or not into the gamblers into this market or would really be just simply leaving them and find for much better.?

At least they are doing the most ethical thing to be done on which giving back to those users who had been that affected on such pending withdrawals. Instead of losing it completely or to those players who had locked up their funds then they do still have the chance on pulling it out or make some withdrawal. The question on this one whether they would really be staying or not on which i do highly doubt on that one.

Tarnished reputation is indeed a really very hard thing to be removed, unless if they would be making up some compensation to those affected users and would really be that aggressive when it
comes again on bonuse and other promotions which it would make people be able to forget on what happened in the past.

Usually it would really be just that so hard to get the trust that had been given at first because disappearing and not making any
explanation on what happened will really be leading into those bad impressions that cant be removed until the end of time. Cool

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Quote from: darkangel11 on November 19, 2023, 04:23:17 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

I do agree that once a casino have this kind of issues then it would really be remembered forever on which means that reputation is really that permanently tarnished on which
it is really that hard on getting it back 100% way before but well they are really that trying to fix everything from here, so its not that bad for the public or into its users on giving them
the chance on the wrong things that they have done. Of course there would really be that hesitation and doubts which is something that cant be avoided but time will tell
on whether they would really be getting back those trust or not into the gamblers into this market or would really be just simply leaving them and find for much better.?

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on November 19, 2023, 03:36:17 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 12:34:30 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 11:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

It is obvious that Betnomi played with the trust customers had in them. What they are doing now should have been what they should have done from the very beginning of their internal struggles. Customers funds are what they should not be joking about or fighting over. The funds do not belong to them but to the customers, just as Wiwo has said, and as such, they should not be held for a long time without granting customers access. Their internal misunderstanding should just be within them, as this is business and their is no need to suspend withdrawal as the funds do not belong to them. This singular act they have done would definitely wreck the reputation they have built over the past years.

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Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 05:33:58 PM

Over the past two years, we have developed our own casino software, risk management engine, and other valuable intellectual property worth millions of dollars. We intend to leverage this expertise to rebuild a stronger brand in the future.

We will provide an update on our reimbursement plan and schedule as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

It's a pleasure indeed hearing from "Betnomi" casino representative once again about the state of your casino and possible way forward after series of several scam accusations led against you, of which I'm happy to hear you guys having plans on resolving all claims, both deposit & withdrawal issues led against your casino. But if only had you come up to tell the bitcoin community about this challenge long time ago, we all would have understood and remain patient enough knowing fully well you guys were under attack. And however, it is never too late to prove your reputation, but if only you can keep to your world and not act like 1xbit,

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 12:34:30 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 11:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

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I’m wondering if there is any update about this matter after one of Betnomi showed, still my opinion the same as my first reply here. I want only to see if anyone here from the players of Betnomi casino who has pending funds with them received any repayment yet, or at least got contacted by them.

As many of users mentioned, I believe that the process of refund should be quick and sharing any latest updates. I’m sure it’s not just a small hope for the users now but a big one and should stay the same until they all get their funds.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 19, 2023, 05:08:34 AM

I was one of the user that probably made withdrawal when someone posted in their thread that the betnomi is not processing any withdrawal then there were alot of complaints in the telegram chat as well. I received the whole amount that I requested but I believe there were some users still affected as well because iirc I told @jayce about this then he immediately requested withdrawal as well but never received them until the whole site was down

Actually it was too late for me to request the withdrawal. I just thought it would be a temporary maintenance and decided to wait Undecided

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 19, 2023, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 11:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this, a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented, but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 11:03:31 AM

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

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In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

I know that perhaps many people have previously put their trust in your site, whether it is still there or has been lost, because it is difficult if someone's trust has been damaged just because they feel abandoned by the site owner, but whatever it is, you have explained it in detail here, it all comes back to the user. each of you. Glad to hear you're back again Wink

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Quote from: betnomi on November 16, 2023, 05:33:58 PM

Unfortunately, following this decision, certain individuals engaged in backroom deals to extract Betnomi's intellectual property and resources for the purpose of launching a new casino independently. These actions resulted in significant damage to Betnomi and its users. Critical system resources were restricted, and the database became inaccessible, preventing users from withdrawing their balances.

This is quite a long time because allowing people on this forum to speculate wildly does not provide a guarantee that user funds will be returned in the near future. So it's not strange if there is a danger flag stuck to his clothes. With several parties severing ties and instead building new casinos, this means we need to be wary of new casinos built by them potentially doing the same thing in the future.

I expect Betnomi to share the name of the new casino they will be launching. We also need to be careful not to fall into the abyss of the game. Building a new casino from the funds of victimized users is clearly considered a completely unjustified act.

I believe you came with good intentions and tried to answer the questions of many people who are quite tired of waiting for confirmation. Apart from taking legal action with related parties, the victims will still claim the same demands until everything is paid off.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 19, 2023, 05:08:34 AM

Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 02:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time

Unless they start refunding affected user then so far they are not restoring any of their reputation at all. Especially after coming back months after the incident

Until all the cases are resolved I will remain neutral because this is not a small amount of loss for many users. So we will see whether Betnomi continues its work. No matter what is happening behind the scenes, affected users should get their funds back as quickly as possible. And of course restoring the reputation of a casino on this forum is not easy, in some cases many casinos intend to correct their mistakes but until now they have disappeared somewhere.

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Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 02:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time because however we realize that this problem is not easy to resolve in a short time. To every user who has been harmed, you can monitor every development from Betnomi. I hope that Betnomi can also be transparent about every development that is being made so that we can see where this problem has reached.

The first step will determine everything, you and Betnomi have done the right thing and informed the status of what actually happened. Gradually I am sure that user charges and funds can be returned.

Yes they are trying to show that they want to restore their reputation by saying they would pay their past affected users. But we should not conclude anything good yet since the refund hasn't been started. If they make this refund process came into reality and not just a plan then for sure with this they can possibly restore their reputation and can launch their new brand in this forum. Many want to see that refund process to happen since it will show that there's a platform which has been compromised show some great action towards those bad incident happen on their casino.

Betnomi now gaining a little bit of trust here so if they continue to make it happen then for sure that many would get convince that they are not here for scamming but rather here to deal with serious business and offer some great platform to their gamblers.

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Betnomi was once favourite platform for many forum users because we used to play poker series on it. Not just once or twice but multiple times. It’s was hurting when I first saw the discussion about Betnomi going down.

It’s good to see that same platform is now making efforts to overcome the black Ink that was put on their casino. The damage is definitely out of hands in terms of casino trust. I’m not sure how much it will get recovered after you guys refund the money but many peeps will be happy about it for sure.

I think clashes in between partners is not new when it comes to business that has grown millions of dollars worth. Unfortunately money makes it worst. Whether it is strong friendship or close family, Money destroys everything.

Let’s hope you guys sort it for the good and maybe make a come back soon.

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Quote from: betnomi on November 17, 2023, 09:42:41 AM

Everyone with a significant balance, that is, an amount greater than $5,000 USD, has already made a complaint in the forum, and there are only about four or five of those. This is because we processed all pending withdrawals before taking the site into maintenance mode.

I was one of the user that probably made withdrawal when someone posted in their thread that the betnomi is not processing any withdrawal then there were alot of complaints in the telegram chat as well. I received the whole amount that I requested but I believe there were some users still affected as well because iirc I told @jayce about this then he immediately requested withdrawal as well but never received them until the whole site was down

Quote from: junder on November 19, 2023, 02:56:45 AM

Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time

Unless they start refunding affected user then so far they are not restoring any of their reputation at all. Especially after coming back months after the incident

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Betnomi is trying to show that they are serious about restoring their reputation, so there's no harm in giving them time because however we realize that this problem is not easy to resolve in a short time. To every user who has been harmed, you can monitor every development from Betnomi. I hope that Betnomi can also be transparent about every development that is being made so that we can see where this problem has reached.

The first step will determine everything, you and Betnomi have done the right thing and informed the status of what actually happened. Gradually I am sure that user charges and funds can be returned.

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