It's a good step that management has taken to return user funds who have entered the betnomi site, however betnomi has become one of the gambling sites of choice for gambling players here because it is not so strict about KYC rules, I hope that in the future betnomi management can be even better in running the business they built, it is not easy to build the reputation of a gambling site, it takes years but the damage only takes less than 1 hour. Good luck with betnomi management and new plans you guys.
For my entire experience of casino of gambling in any platform I have not witnessed or seen any gambling platform that basically or sincerely done what Betnomi platform has done to their customers and secondly what I notice Betnomi did is to build up their reputation to another hierarchy in which the news of what they did now will continue circulating around the corner, so I believe that this will make people to be more comfortable and more balanced concerning their platform, for the areas of kyc verification I think is necessary and if Betnomi don't bother for verification of account I think its base known to them, in which I know that it's something that relates with them.but for me I can never fail to verify my account in any casino platform I choose to gamble with. 
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The difference between Betnomi and 1xbit is the fact thatbetnomi had a reputation before the attack and everyone here in the forum was ok with Betnomi, but the same can not be said of 1xbit who never for once had any positive reputation all the while, and we are glad that 1xbits are out of this forum for good, but we hope for betnomi return under another name and brand and being able to refund everyone that lost their money due to the crisis in the casino management for a while that has lead to this present situation for the casino and we wish them all the beat as their make efforts to recover that good image that betnomi hardback.
Both Betnomi and 1xbit scammed their users which is why what @Mate2237 stated makes complete sense in this regard. The only big difference between them is the fact that 1xbit openly scams their customers while Betnomi doesn't.Also, keep dreaming if you think that Betnomi will recover their good image even if they actually reimburse all the victims.
Nice to see you back again but you make thing very bad on your site. you know it very well that this forum value reputation and good work. Therefore as your casino website was compromised, you would informed the community in the early weeks of the attack but your mute about the whole issue resulted to red tagging your account and the casino. Now many questions will be asked and many doubts are here. Some will even ask how true is this your story? Because this is not the first time we have heard this kind refund stories here. 1Xbit came back with the same story but at the end they still disappeared till now.
But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
The difference between Betnomi and 1xbit is the fact thatbetnomi had a reputation before the attack and everyone here in the forum was ok with Betnomi, but the same can not be said of 1xbit who never for once had any positive reputation all the while, and we are glad that 1xbits are out of this forum for good, but we hope for betnomi return under another name and brand and being able to refund everyone that lost their money due to the crisis in the casino management for a while that has lead to this present situation for the casino and we wish them all the beat as their make efforts to recover that good image that betnomi hardback.But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
One cannot compare Betnomi with that other casino just yet, because they are not close of doing the same, for us to start to compare both of them, then Betnomi would have not even come back with a okey enough of an explanation and instead of it, just start and signature campaign for their website (which is not even up), ignore all what happened, ban victims of the scam off their platform and just continue with red tags and make people who join their campaign to also get red tags.
So as it stands for now, we are not talking about the same actions and approaches. Let us see who this goes though, hopefully this won't end in empty promises and expectations being flushed down the toilet (again).
Nice to see you back again but you make thing very bad on your site. you know it very well that this forum value reputation and good work. Therefore as your casino website was compromised, you would informed the community in the early weeks of the attack but your mute about the whole issue resulted to red tagging your account and the casino. Now many questions will be asked and many doubts are here. Some will even ask how true is this your story? Because this is not the first time we have heard this kind refund stories here. 1Xbit came back with the same story but at the end they still disappeared till now.
But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
The difference between Betnomi and 1xbit is the fact thatbetnomi had a reputation before the attack and everyone here in the forum was ok with Betnomi, but the same can not be said of 1xbit who never for once had any positive reputation all the while, and we are glad that 1xbits are out of this forum for good, but we hope for betnomi return under another name and brand and being able to refund everyone that lost their money due to the crisis in the casino management for a while that has lead to this present situation for the casino and we wish them all the beat as their make efforts to recover that good image that betnomi hardback. But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
Well, this is something I have speculated about around here in the gambling section, specially when we all get the bad news on the apparent exit scam of this casino. I knew there was possible there were some associates within Betnomi who may have had bad intentions and ran away with whatever was left of the there bankroll.
Regardless whether I believe this story or not, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, mostly because you are talking about refunding the money people lost.
Let us see what happens, in the meantime those red tags are expected to remain.
Regardless whether I believe this story or not, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, mostly because you are talking about refunding the money people lost.
Let us see what happens, in the meantime those red tags are expected to remain.
Nice to see you back again but you make thing very bad on your site. you know it very well that this forum value reputation and good work. Therefore as your casino website was compromised, you would informed the community in the early weeks of the attack but your mute about the whole issue resulted to red tagging your account and the casino. Now many questions will be asked and many doubts are here. Some will even ask how true is this your story? Because this is not the first time we have heard this kind refund stories here. 1Xbit came back with the same story but at the end they still disappeared till now.
But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
But all in all that is not the main issue here again. The main thing now for you to clear your debt and from the story and others have asked. From where will you make the refund when all the funds were stolen?
Glad to see someone finally showed up and provided some sort of explanation, let's hope the repayment plan actually happens and everyone is made whole again. At the very least I would like to see all of those affected be compensated and maybe a little bonus for the delay( I am not 1 of those affected). The only thing that affected me personally was my email address got spammed by whomever the info was sold to. I didn't appreciate it, but i'll live.
Lots of good questions in this thread that could use a response. If I am you Betnomi, I would try to read and respond to each user(in some way) and show that you do care about their opinion or feelings.
Most questions are really that similar just like mine, ex. where they do get that refund money. The questions raised by LoyceV is a solid one which sums up allLots of good questions in this thread that could use a response. If I am you Betnomi, I would try to read and respond to each user(in some way) and show that you do care about their opinion or feelings.
the questions that majority on having.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63174370
They've mentioned about paying it in full since the balance that it does have in the platform isnt that much then they are really that confident that they could really be giving it 100%.
Some sort of bonus for the said incident? that would really be truly that great if they would make out such decision ( for those affected of course).
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I will be personally covering the refunds from my own funds. We are exploring other options at this point, but every single user will be completely refunded in full. We would not have made an announcement about the refund unless we were positive we could get it done. Fortunately, the total balance of users on the platform is relatively small, so this is entirely doable.
As one of the customers with funds still left in my betnomi account, I appricate this clarification. Action speaks lounder than words though. So lets see action.
Glad to see someone finally showed up and provided some sort of explanation, let's hope the repayment plan actually happens and everyone is made whole again. At the very least I would like to see all of those affected be compensated and maybe a little bonus for the delay( I am not 1 of those affected). The only thing that affected me personally was my email address got spammed by whomever the info was sold to. I didn't appreciate it, but i'll live.
Lots of good questions in this thread that could use a response. If I am you Betnomi, I would try to read and respond to each user(in some way) and show that you do care about their opinion or feelings.
Lots of good questions in this thread that could use a response. If I am you Betnomi, I would try to read and respond to each user(in some way) and show that you do care about their opinion or feelings.
Personal curiosity, there are/was more than one person who interacted from this account here on bitcointalk? (probably one of the partners?)
beyond this, once agreed, I would like to suggest to clarify repayment plan in which the dates of reimbursements will take place are clearly communicated to all users affected about this loss.
beyond this, once agreed, I would like to suggest to clarify repayment plan in which the dates of reimbursements will take place are clearly communicated to all users affected about this loss.
So, to summarize: You took players' money, went quiet for 4 months, blame someone else say you're going to pay back the money you took.
We dont even know who this personas really are.Is it Sorsis who wrote last post, and who is the guy who stole database from himself and sold it to third party?
I think there was more thanone betnomi accounts registered in forum.
Regards
Sorsis
Based on everything you wrote we cant really be sure if you are Sorsis or someone else, so you should sign a message with bitcoin address to prove you are the same guy. Sorsis
It is not easy to build a trusted brand as it takes a lot of time and hardwork. Betnomi has lost that trust that they had built within the forum and outside due their internal issues. I do not think coming up with a new brand name would be help them. They would be able to regain some level of trust back when they resolve all issues regarding the repayment. Until then it is better to wait and watch if they can keep their promise.
This is exactly what I was thinking, but then again, since they have already lost their server and no one knows the level of data they can generate, and if the casino name has already not been sold out to another company, as I came across in the OP, if they can repay back all the pending withdrawals and winnings to the victims and those affected come out and drop their case against them.
There will be nothing wrong for them to come out with a new name and brand in order not to be attached to or followed by any future cases since they already have their own developed games. Starting that up won't be an issue, and what will follow after that is just to come to the community and announce that this is them in a different form and new name, and everything will be resolved and people will know who they are dealing with.
Not to mention, i am not operating anonymously from some hidden bunker on Mars. I have a public profile, which is an unusual choice for a casino operator, but I believe in transparency and chose to go this route.
I feel like this is the only reason that made you come back here and post all this, many of users here may share the same thing I have said. Beside, knowing that all what you have said about you company and what made you disappear is not yet confirmed.Moreover, the rest of your team didn’t appear again and state anything about refund or even ask for an apology and explain what happened in details. But, the way all this happened from disappearing and taking long to even state something to users and players that left stressed about their funds.
It’s hard to believe any of what you said.
Finally, I would like to address one critical assertion. The claim that Betnomi is a scam is absurd. We spent millions of dollars and years of hard work to build the entire platform and infrastructure to support it. This is not a simple white-label operation. The sum of all users' balances left on the platform is less than our monthly expenses as a company.
no offense but the claims that were made have valid points. the fact that you guys suddenly disappeared along with the gambler's funds indicates that it was an exit scam. you can't blame the people who think that Betnomi is a scam since you failed to give an explanation of what's happeningTherefore, we have decided to permanently cease operations and stop using the Betnomi brand in our best interests.
What if all users have been refunded and you build back good reputation, are you coming back or no Betnomi again? -snip-
Casino partnering with some one is not really new at all.However, based on the legal action. Usually, on the agreement there has a mark-up fee in case some partners is left or make some problem for the partner business. But these need to be waited until the lawsuit/court date.
Plus, in law is not good to share the story in public. I believe he are gonna to say, have a problem internally and left (Betnomi) or something like that. You can't share any information with the public, because there always have some non-disclosure agreement.
I didn't see this coming op. Very few have the guts to speak out like this after messing up so many lives thanks to their actions(Intentional or Unintentional). As the saying goes, it takes eons to build reputation, but seconds for it to crumble.
Even if you and your team somehow miraculously refund all amounts properly, your site will never stand tall again.
Even if you and your team somehow miraculously refund all amounts properly, your site will never stand tall again.
It is easy to make claims without knowing the facts, much less analyzing them. I simply ask that you do the math next time you have the urge to say "scam."
The math here is pretty straightforward, and I bet plenty of folks would say the same. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, it's stealing. It doesn't matter if it seems like no big deal to you or its just a small amount. And stealing or deception to gain something unlawfully is a telltale sign of a scam. Even if we're just talking about 100 bucks!
As for not knowing the facts, whose fault is that?
Not to mention, i am not operating anonymously from some hidden bunker on Mars. I have a public profile, which is an unusual choice for a casino operator, but I believe in transparency and chose to go this route.
Regards
Sorsis
Regards
Sorsis
Oh, what a surprise! The whole thing kind of smelled like your handiwork.
vulpes pilum mutat, non mores
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Casino partnering with some one is not really new at all.However, based on the legal action. Usually, on the agreement there has a mark-up fee in case some partners is left or make some problem for the partner business. But these need to be waited until the lawsuit/court date.
Plus, in law is not good to share the story in public. I believe he are gonna to say, have a problem internally and left (Betnomi) or something like that. You can't share any information with the public, because there always have some non-disclosure agreement.
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This is not the case. There were more than one owner of Betnomi (partners). We will not be releasing the names or any other information related to the partners at this point because it is unnecessary and there are potential legal consequences for doing so.
The guy on the left is Marin Zvonarević. His job title was 'Partner at Betnomi'. It would be interesting to hear his side of the story.
The claim that Betnomi is a scam is absurd. We spent millions of dollars and years of hard work to build the entire platform and infrastructure to support it. This is not a simple white-label operation. The sum of all users' balances left on the platform is less than our monthly expenses as a company.
It's quite funny actuallyYou're just misleading everyone with your first response about the situation you're facing by telling a lie (there has been some update on your website) meanwhile you have an internal-problem with your team.
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The tag you are getting is from your own action, it's people's money on your platform. Without give any explanation, you remove a question anything about the question we're asking about the progress on your (Telegram). You also blocked/kicked everyone who are questioned about the case, maenwhile it's user money.
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