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Quote from: Igebotz on September 12, 2023, 10:33:18 AM

This is why those who prefer to wait patiently and gather information before making a transfer always come on top, I had the same information, I was planning on making the move on Thursday so there is still more time to gather information.

Bruno to Son is not a bad idea is it?

If you don't mind I'll keep my fingers crossed as I don't have this player.

Besides, I already got rid of Bruno before his price dropped and will probably buy him back next week at a discount. I know that Son would be a great alternative even considering Tottenham's two toughest games, but I prefer to stay away from him at the moment. I'm also seriously considering activating the bench in week 7 as I'm not sure we'll get a lot of double game weeks this season and Luton are having good games.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 12, 2023, 02:20:31 AM

If Nicholas Jackson disappoints me further, I will definitely consider Son Heung-min.

Son is not Jackson alternative - There are other viable options, but if I were you, I would not let him go, at least not right now. He has everything he needs to begin scoring soon.

Quote from: Trofo on September 12, 2023, 09:26:30 AM

Anybody transferred Son in yet? My unconfirmed sources tell me he is injured

We should know more tonight when Korea is playing

Just shows how important it is to wait until last moment and max info. If I went for Son it would have mean -4 and now I would have injured player in my squad. Much better to just pay that price rise and do transfers last minute.

This is why those who prefer to wait patiently and gather information before making a transfer always come on top, I had the same information, I was planning on making the move on Thursday so there is still more time to gather information.

Bruno to Son is not a bad idea is it?

Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 03:59:52 AM

At last, there are two types of FPL managers: those who want to make early moves to beat the price and (2) those who prefer to wait patiently and gather information before making a transfer. Those managers (1) who worry a lot about the squad value, in my experience, often fall short on points, whereas the latter are constantly on top of their game.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 12, 2023, 06:00:19 AM

I meant to do that switch (spoke about it already), and I still plan to do it. But Son's got Sheffield and after that Arsenal and Liverpool.

Rashford has Brighton, Burnley and Palace in the same time, and after that Brentford and Sheffield - which kinda makes him the preferred choice at this moment.

Liverpool's got a really nice schedule, I hope my Salah choice brings me some points. City's got a more difficult run of games.

Anybody transferred Son in yet? My unconfirmed sources tell me he is injured

We should know more tonight when Korea is playing

Just shows how important it is to wait until last moment and max info. If I went for Son it would have mean -4 and now I would have injured player in my squad. Much better to just pay that price rise and do transfers last minute.

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I meant to do that switch (spoke about it already), and I still plan to do it. But Son's got Sheffield and after that Arsenal and Liverpool.

Rashford has Brighton, Burnley and Palace in the same time, and after that Brentford and Sheffield - which kinda makes him the preferred choice at this moment.

Liverpool's got a really nice schedule, I hope my Salah choice brings me some points. City's got a more difficult run of games.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 12, 2023, 02:20:31 AM

If Nicholas Jackson disappoints me further, I will definitely consider Son Heung-min.

That would be an easy switch if Son was forward in the game. Unfortunately he is midfielder and there is so many good midfielders this season. I just can't get rid of any I already have even though my trust in United could cost me big. Rashford to Son looks nice but I wouldn't be surprised if Rashford outscores Son in next couple of games.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 03:25:36 PM

Son is a great asset if he continues at ST, but it's a bit of a chance right now, so I'm going to wait till after the Sheffield, Arsenal, and Liverpool games to see if he's still playing as ST, then I can easily get him.

I missed that Burnley vs Tottenham game because I was busy watching Chelsea play against Nottingham Forest. The last game I watched Tottenham play was against Manchester United, and Son Heung-min played from the left just as he had played for them in all the games that Tottenham have played in the EPL this season with Richarlison the big flop playing ST. If Son Heung-min scored three goals in his first opportunity of playing ST for the team, then Angelos Postecoglou should let him keep that position that he has earned.

If Nicholas Jackson disappoints me further, I will definitely consider Son Heung-min.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2023, 12:39:03 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 03:59:52 AM

Son scored a Hattrick, and 384k managers are already twerking for him. Lol. The number one rule of this game is to not panic. Spurs plays Arsenal and Liverpool after Sheffield united.

Son is a bit of special story, he did not just score a lot of points like Sterling did a week before. He actually played as a striker which is a position much better suited for him then far on the left. Now somebody will say that he played on the left with Kane all the time, but that isn't the same position. With Kane in the team dropping deep, Son was quite central while wings in this new Spurs provide width and have very little goal threat. That position change if permanent could make Son indispensable to our clubs and if I had an easy way to get him into my team or a midfielder I don't longer want in my team I would transfer him in this week.

Son is a great asset if he continues at ST, but it's a bit of a chance right now, so I'm going to wait till after the Sheffield, Arsenal, and Liverpool games to see if he's still playing as ST, then I can easily get him.

On side note; With Manchester United's injuries and internal issues, I would struggle to keep both Bruno and Rashford for GW5. I have £2.4 million in the bank to meet any unexpected expenses. Who knows I'm tempted to bring in Son for Rashford.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2023, 12:39:03 PM

Son is a bit of special story, he did not just score a lot of points like Sterling did a week before. He actually played as a striker which is a position much better suited for him then far on the left. Now somebody will say that he played on the left with Kane all the time, but that isn't the same position. With Kane in the team dropping deep, Son was quite central while wings in this new Spurs provide width and have very little goal threat. That position change if permanent could make Son indispensable to our clubs and if I had an easy way to get him into my team or a midfielder I don't longer want in my team I would transfer him in this week.

I for once felt Richarlison would be firing on all cylinders now, but he can't even get himself established at the main center striker, and Harry Kane might have left but the arrival of Maddison would make it rather tougher for either of Son or Richarlison whichever of them can't holding the No. 9 position properly because there's no one getting Maddison off that No. 10 role, and if both of them can't make rain goals anymore then perhaps Postecoglou might just pull his wild card up early, I mean with Veliz Alejo, could EPL have another Erling Haaland in sight ??

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2023, 12:39:03 PM

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That position change if permanent could make Son indispensable to our clubs and if I had an easy way to get him into my team or a midfielder I don't longer want in my team I would transfer him in this week.

thought about that, and close to do it, but I don't like bringing in players after they score much points in previous rounds, it looks quite rookie, and usually doesn't pay-off

with all said, I have goal/attack settled for season, if there is no injuries, but midfield is still under construction, and defense is still fragile
main obstacle is that i pledged to have three Everton players, and they play as shit so far, hope that will change in meantime

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 09, 2023, 07:13:24 AM

I guess it's the curse of the new managers - I'm also incredibly trigger-happy. I'm paying it by a lot already.

I went with van Hecke instead of Tierney after GW1, replacing a 4points player. If I did not do that, in GW2 I'd replace Tierney with Gusto, because James got injured.
Considering that I did not have that transfer available, I did it in GW3 when I wanted to exchange Rashford for Son - which I still did not do.

This is a really good example on how 1 really stupid transfer (neither Lamptey or van Hecke would ever be in my starting team) continuously hurts you going forward. It's a mistake I won't repeat with some experience under my belt.

Perfect example really. Transfers are incredibly important and it helps if you look at free transfer as -4 as well. It is never good to spend it on sideways move and bench positions and almost never on goalkeepers.

That being said, if you really want some player and you feel he will make your team better in the long run, take that -4 penalty. I even made -12 penalties which paid off really well in the past. Granted that was usually in double game weeks when you have a high chance of immediate payoff.

Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 03:59:52 AM

Son scored a Hattrick, and 384k managers are already twerking for him. Lol. The number one rule of this game is to not panic. Spurs plays Arsenal and Liverpool after Sheffield united.

Son is a bit of special story, he did not just score a lot of points like Sterling did a week before. He actually played as a striker which is a position much better suited for him then far on the left. Now somebody will say that he played on the left with Kane all the time, but that isn't the same position. With Kane in the team dropping deep, Son was quite central while wings in this new Spurs provide width and have very little goal threat. That position change if permanent could make Son indispensable to our clubs and if I had an easy way to get him into my team or a midfielder I don't longer want in my team I would transfer him in this week.

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I guess it's the curse of the new managers - I'm also incredibly trigger-happy. I'm paying it by a lot already.

I went with van Hecke instead of Tierney after GW1, replacing a 4points player. If I did not do that, in GW2 I'd replace Tierney with Gusto, because James got injured.
Considering that I did not have that transfer available, I did it in GW3 when I wanted to exchange Rashford for Son - which I still did not do.

This is a really good example on how 1 really stupid transfer (neither Lamptey or van Hecke would ever be in my starting team) continuously hurts you going forward. It's a mistake I won't repeat with some experience under my belt.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2023, 03:41:07 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 02:37:40 AM

Son is the most transfer in so far 384k managers transferred him in for GW 5 isn't it too early for someone who is on an international break? I mean injury concern.

That is always the problem with casual managers, jumping on transfers early and raising/dropping price. Then you have an option to do the smart thing, wait until last moment and just accept you will lose 0.2M while waiting or jump in like the rest of the pack and try to use that price raise to your advantage. Tried both options and I feel like if your team is doing badly then some early transfers aren't that bad since they will raise your squad value. On the other hand if your team is doing well just suck it up and don't risk it.

Problem is it will work for you few times and then you will jump on wrong player that gets injured or leaves to Saudi Arabia which will cost you much more in transfer points.

All that is only applicable in first part of the season, in later stages I will never do early transfer, squad value then isn't so important and injuries are happening much more often do to fatigue and fixture congestion.

At last, there are two types of FPL managers: those who want to make early moves to beat the price and those who prefer to wait patiently and gather information before making a transfer. Those managers (1) who worry a lot about the squad value, in my experience, often fall short on points, whereas the latter are constantly on top of their game.

Son scored a Hattrick, and 384k managers are already twerking for him. Lol. The number one rule of this game is to not panic. Spurs plays Arsenal and Liverpool after Sheffield united.

Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2023, 03:41:07 AM

Edit: For instance I just read that Gabriel Jesus has been injured yesterday for Brazil and he was one of the players I was looking to bring in

Gotta feel sorry for the 58k managers who transferred him in after the Manchester united game. Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2023, 02:37:40 AM

Son is the most transfer in so far 384k managers transferred him in for GW 5 isn't it too early for someone who is on an international break? I mean injury concern.

That is always the problem with casual managers, jumping on transfers early and raising/dropping price. Then you have an option to do the smart thing, wait until last moment and just accept you will lose 0.2M while waiting or jump in like the rest of the pack and try to use that price raise to your advantage. Tried both options and I feel like if your team is doing badly then some early transfers aren't that bad since they will raise your squad value. On the other hand if your team is doing well just suck it up and don't risk it.

Problem is it will work for you few times and then you will jump on wrong player that gets injured or leaves to Saudi Arabia which will cost you much more in transfer points.

All that is only applicable in first part of the season, in later stages I will never do early transfer, squad value then isn't so important and injuries are happening much more often do to fatigue and fixture congestion.

Edit: For instance I just read that Gabriel Jesus has been injured yesterday for Brazil and he was one of the players I was looking to bring in

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Quote from: NotATether on September 08, 2023, 11:10:31 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

Rashford and Saka are in form right now. That's the better option if you ask me, because you can't put 12.5 million Salah in your squad without major surgery.

So I guess save him for your Free Hit.

Salah + Mitoma has a combination of 87.9% ICT index and 46 total points from last 4 games.

Rashford + Saka has a combination of 81.3% ICT index and 44 points from last 4 games.

Option B is what I will go for irrespective of their fixtures anyday anytime, it gives you flexibility and you can easily swap between players.

Son is the most transfer in so far 384k managers transferred him in for GW 5 isn't it too early for someone who is on an international break? I mean injury concern.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

Rashford and Saka are in form right now. That's the better option if you ask me, because you can't put 12.5 million Salah in your squad without major surgery.

So I guess save him for your Free Hit.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

Without checking their fixtures, it will be a very hard call to make for me, because It could easily Salah over Rashford for majority of the time, but so it is with how I would easily pick Saka over Mitoma in equal fixtures too, Saka is on penalties and is certain to be on field all day long as well, so both combo makes up for each other one way or the other, but if the fixtures are even, I might go for the cautiously moderate one of Rashford + Saka, then take that +0.4m advantage to go for an additional upgrade across the squad that could potentially make up for any short coming of the choice, if there happen to be one, or an upgrade that could get me the extra point if both combo were to be an even one.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Which combo is better?

Difficult to choose for me.

Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Rashford can blank in games and they can completely be kept calm by some defenders.

Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m

With way Liverpool are playing, Salah will have another successful season for the club, Mitoma is good, but just like Saka and Rashford, some very good defenders can keep him quiet.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 08, 2023, 02:55:03 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

With Kane gone, any team would struggle to make it through the entire season without Salah. I've never started a season with him, but I always end up with him at the end. Halaand is the only permanent player on my team right now, and things will only change if there is an injury or a City blank week.
A midfield of

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

I know you asked it as rhetoric question but I really don't know, it depends a lot on fixtures and form as well. If I was picking now I would change Mitoma for Mbuemo or if he is too expensive for your calculation than to Diaby. I would also probably chose Son over Rashford.

My biggest problem with Salah is his price point. He is the only one around 12.5M and it is difficult to get him in or out of the team. If you don't like Mitoma, it is easy transfer to Diaby, Mbuemo, March, Eze and bunch of other players. If you don't like Rashford you can go to Son or small downgrade to Diaz, Madison, Fernandez... Getting Salah in or out usually costs 3 transfers which is problematic.

Perhaps I should have rephrased the question as to which combination will outperform at the end of the season.

I agree with you on Salah; he was easy to manage and switch to KDB whenever fixtures were not going well last season, and vice versa, since both players were in the £12-12.5m region. But it's difficult to own him now, and it's much harder to get rid of him without taking a hit. I'd rather stay with one of the many versatile midfield choices available.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 08, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

With Kane gone, any team would struggle to make it through the entire season without Salah. I've never started a season with him, but I always end up with him at the end. Halaand is the only permanent player on my team right now, and things will only change if there is an injury or a City blank week.
A midfield of

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

I know you asked it as rhetoric question but I really don't know, it depends a lot on fixtures and form as well. If I was picking now I would change Mitoma for Mbuemo or if he is too expensive for your calculation than to Diaby. I would also probably chose Son over Rashford.

My biggest problem with Salah is his price point. He is the only one around 12.5M and it is difficult to get him in or out of the team. If you don't like Mitoma, it is easy transfer to Diaby, Mbuemo, March, Eze and bunch of other players. If you don't like Rashford you can go to Son or small downgrade to Diaz, Madison, Fernandez... Getting Salah in or out usually costs 3 transfers which is problematic.

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Quote from: icopress on September 08, 2023, 12:42:54 AM

Quote from: Trofo on September 08, 2023, 12:25:04 AM

Math for Salah is actually really simple, you just have to answer yourself one simple question. Will you captain him instead of Haaland in some games? If your answer is no, stay away, his price is so high because of his consistency and safe minutes in top club plus his captain appeal.

I think he is good play after GW9 when Liverpool starts their great fixture run.

There are at least 10 games where Salah has the captaincy advantage over Haaland (and yes.. I only chose him because I would alternate captaincy).

By the way, he is currently the only player who has had a scoring touch in all 4 game weeks.

With Kane gone, any team would struggle to make it through the entire season without Salah. I've never started a season with him, but I always end up with him at the end. Halaand is the only permanent player on my team right now, and things will only change if there is an injury or a City blank week.
A midfield of

Salah+ Mitoma = £19m
Rashford+ Saka = £18.6m

Which combo is better?

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