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Quote from: buwaytress on July 29, 2024, 08:25:11 AM

OK so Chelski at least won't seem to have to deal with the weight of expectations now that roundly everyone seems to think they're hopeless. But is anyone else going to avoid Liverpool, United, maybe even City? It would seem to me the smartest choice this first game week is just to pick the cheapest players and wait the start of the season out.

Wait, what, am I playing FPL next season?!

Why would anybody avoid City next season? Unless you want to go Haaland-less again or something? But that never works out.

Salah too. He is quite dangerous and should be in everybody's squads for the opening GW.

ManU - a clown show. Now their new signings are getting injured. Absolutely ridiculous stuff.

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OK so Chelski at least won't seem to have to deal with the weight of expectations now that roundly everyone seems to think they're hopeless. But is anyone else going to avoid Liverpool, United, maybe even City? It would seem to me the smartest choice this first game week is just to pick the cheapest players and wait the start of the season out.

Wait, what, am I playing FPL next season?!

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Still a long way to go before the start of the season but Chelsea's friendly game fixtures could have been arranged a bit better.

After a game against Club America they have City, Real and Inter. If they get hammered in all of them (which is a realistic possibility considering that they were against Celtic), it might ruin any confidence they planned to enter the season with.

They are the only team in the PL in which I cannot be sure in more than 4-5 players as starters. Such an unusual thing in football, especially on such a high level.

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Quote from: Igebotz on July 28, 2024, 08:27:06 AM

Losing because you're unlucky with goal opportunities is not the same as losing because you play shit; we're just playing shit, and nothing will change if the season starts anytime soon

Maresca looked frustrated from the game, like it just dawned on him the level of work he has to do to return Chelsea back to better day. I am not sure he expected that his team will concede that much goals.

Chelsea have to start well, and not try to chase other teams all season long.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 28, 2024, 04:30:23 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on July 28, 2024, 04:04:35 AM

Preseason is basically irrelevant. Most of the top players are still on vacation or getting minor roles in the team.
It is used to build up fitness levels and not results, so whatever happens there should be ignored.

Maresca did well with Leicester, but they had the best squad in the league. Chelsea is a team set up to play in a different way, he seems a bit inexperienced for the job.
Same can be said about Slot, but Liverpool at least had a style of play and defined roles in the team. Chelsea has 40 players on the roster and nobody knows what to do and there's not a gameplan the players can lean on.

Exactly, preseason is not something that should be taken too seriously. It gives us some ideas, especially about lesser known players that could have bigger roles in the season but almost nothing about actual club form.

All the best players were on Euro and some are now on Olympics, they are at best just getting back to the club from holidays.

I'd want to point out that preseason form may have a significant impact on a team's morale and how they approach the season; I'm not sure about other teams, but Chelsea hasn't done well in three consecutive preseasons, which typically affects our early league games. We already have 90% of our first-team players playing in preseason, and I don't think the 10% who are still on vacation will alter anything if the other 90% are still struggling to adjust to the new game plan.

Losing because you're unlucky with goal opportunities is not the same as losing because you play shit; we're just playing shit, and nothing will change if the season starts anytime soon

Arsenal is the king of preseason, and they frequently carry their winning form into the season, which is why they consistently outperform any of the top six teams in the first 1-10 fixtures of each season.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 28, 2024, 04:04:35 AM

Preseason is basically irrelevant. Most of the top players are still on vacation or getting minor roles in the team.
It is used to build up fitness levels and not results, so whatever happens there should be ignored.

Maresca did well with Leicester, but they had the best squad in the league. Chelsea is a team set up to play in a different way, he seems a bit inexperienced for the job.
Same can be said about Slot, but Liverpool at least had a style of play and defined roles in the team. Chelsea has 40 players on the roster and nobody knows what to do and there's not a gameplan the players can lean on.

Exactly, preseason is not something that should be taken too seriously. It gives us some ideas, especially about lesser known players that could have bigger roles in the season but almost nothing about actual club form.

All the best players were on Euro and some are now on Olympics, they are at best just getting back to the club from holidays.

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Preseason is basically irrelevant. Most of the top players are still on vacation or getting minor roles in the team.
It is used to build up fitness levels and not results, so whatever happens there should be ignored.

Maresca did well with Leicester, but they had the best squad in the league. Chelsea is a team set up to play in a different way, he seems a bit inexperienced for the job.
Same can be said about Slot, but Liverpool at least had a style of play and defined roles in the team. Chelsea has 40 players on the roster and nobody knows what to do and there's not a gameplan the players can lean on.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 27, 2024, 06:40:59 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on July 24, 2024, 12:22:31 PM

Hey we still have chilwell and Sterling in the team.

Did you see Chelsea's pre season game against Celtic? It was a pre season game but at least gives an idea of the progress the coach has made with the team. From the result of the game, where Chelsea conceded four goals, it is not good looking for Chelsea's new coach, and shows he still has a lot of work to do in the team.

Whatever Enzo Maresca is doing with Chelsea, he has to do it quickly, their first EPL game next season is against Manchester City.

Did you follow Chelsea's preseason matches last season ? If you did, I'm sure you'll take whatever you saw from them in this preseason with a pinch of salt, they were quite superb in the preseason last year and the opposite during the season, maybe this could be an inverse to what happened last season. I'd just rather wait for the regular season to begin and see what they actually have in store.

Not to take away anything away for the new coach's effort, because I didn't watch the game though, so my opinion could be bias and of extreme ignorance, but the season is the only way to find out for sure.

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Quote from: Igebotz on July 24, 2024, 12:22:31 PM

Hey we still have chilwell and Sterling in the team.

Did you see Chelsea's pre season game against Celtic? It was a pre season game but at least gives an idea of the progress the coach has made with the team. From the result of the game, where Chelsea conceded four goals, it is not good looking for Chelsea's new coach, and shows he still has a lot of work to do in the team.

Whatever Enzo Maresca is doing with Chelsea, he has to do it quickly, their first EPL game next season is against Manchester City.

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I fully hate this team hahah. Any sidebets? Grin

You literally stole the words out of my mouth!

I don't know how that team would fare for the long run, I guess I'll bookmark this post and check the total points accumulated by each player here come the end of the season, I already have a good estimate for the like of TAA, Robertson, Salah and Haaland, but as for those differentials, meeh! There are plethora of better options imo, but then also my opinion is why I'm never doing too well here, right Grin

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Still haven't decided what's better... to have a good defense + haland and salah or to have minimal defense for rotation but strong midfielders and forwards. With the change in scoring rules it's become a dilemma for me.

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Quote from: NotATether on July 26, 2024, 06:04:36 AM

Quote from: icopress on July 25, 2024, 06:17:20 AM

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Robbo is injured for a while.

And why do you still have Turner in your team? Fabianski is a better option.

Feeling a bit of FOMO without my fantasy password. Usually by this time I am already well up in drafts and tinkering with my squad. As it is I didn't even start with the research. Still plenty of time though and early drafts usually don't last with me anyway so no harm done.

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Quote from: icopress on July 25, 2024, 06:17:20 AM

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Robbo is injured for a while.

And why do you still have Turner in your team? Fabianski is a better option.

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I read the new FPL rules and first built the optimal protection in which 3 - 4.5m / 2 - 4m. But I came across an interesting and rather logical post on Reddit, and decided that we all still have to deeply edit our teams in the first five weeks (due to the current uncertainty of the rotation). And I decided to buy expensive players that I could, if necessary, rotate to those I need (since it’s easier to sell a Haaland than to get him when you need him).

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Defenders were super nerfed last season by extended extra time, which both reduced shithousery during normal time and provided more opportunities for late goals. Defender value therefore fell off a cliff. The bps changes this season also compound this disadvantage.

That said, FPL pricing is linear, BUT points potential is not. The best value defenders (VAPM) are still the most expensive options at 6M and above (i.e. the outliers underpriced by the linear structure). It is therefore viable (and arguably optimal) to target e.g. a Trent/Robbo/Gvardiol defence for Liverpool's incredible start to the season.

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Quote from: icopress on July 25, 2024, 06:17:20 AM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 24, 2024, 03:19:10 AM

We don't really get to choose, do we?
It's incredible that the club created a situation in which 3 core players have 1 year left on their contracts. Liverpool was doing things the smart way recently, so I have no idea what went wrong.

VVD is nearing an end of his career. He'd be smart to wait before extending - if Slot's Liverpool won't fight for trophies, he might want to go.
Trent is a tricky one - Real has got a super team and he'd fit in well there. I wouldn't want to see him go, but if he doesn't extend we might be forced to sell. Nobody wants a McManaman all over again.

The same mistake was made with Rudiger and Christensen, and while I'm not going to blame the club or the players entirely, both were ready to sign an extension when the whole sanction thing happened; both players were getting close to contract deadlines, clubs couldn't continue to negotiate, and both players had no choice but to leave for elsewhere.

R. James is now out of reach; he is the club's captain, and Real Madrid understands how tough it would be to get a contract following the Kepa situation; they would push hard to get Trent, despite positive negotiations between Trent's agent and Liverpool, but no deal has been reached. Getting near to become the club's second highest earner.

Quote from: NotATether on July 24, 2024, 04:52:59 AM

To do that again in the following year would decimate the leadership structure and make it like Chelsea's where their most experienced player is... Reece James who is serving a 3-game ban (wink wink).

Hey we still have chilwell and Sterling in the team.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 23, 2024, 06:34:36 PM

Of the trio you mentioned, it is only Salah that I think will leave; Trent may likely leave too because Real Madrid sometimes always get what they want at the end, but for VDJ, Liverpool will make sure not to lose him now that the season is about to start.

We do not sell the captain and the vice captain at the same time, especially after what happened last year after James Milner left on a free transfer and then the club suddenly sold Hendo.

To do that again in the following year would decimate the leadership structure and make it like Chelsea's where their most experienced player is... Reece James who is serving a 3-game ban (wink wink).

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We don't really get to choose, do we?
It's incredible that the club created a situation in which 3 core players have 1 year left on their contracts. Liverpool was doing things the smart way recently, so I have no idea what went wrong.

VVD is nearing an end of his career. He'd be smart to wait before extending - if Slot's Liverpool won't fight for trophies, he might want to go.
Trent is a tricky one - Real has got a super team and he'd fit in well there. I wouldn't want to see him go, but if he doesn't extend we might be forced to sell. Nobody wants a McManaman all over again.

Salah is the simplest one - either he signs a 1y extension or he must be sold.

Not a great situation at the beginning of a new manager's era..

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Quote from: Igebotz on July 23, 2024, 10:40:57 AM

KDB stays- another greedy mistake from Manchester city.

I was beginning to think every player was replaceable for Pep. Why does he not want to let KDB go? because I doubt that the decision to stay was solely made by KDB without any form of influence. Maybe one more dance for the Champions league.

Quote from: Igebotz on July 23, 2024, 05:25:12 PM

Liverpool cannot afford to lose Trent, Salah, and VDJ in the same window; they must do everything possible to secure Trent on a long-term contract, persuade VDJ to sign a year extension, and release Salah in January, but none of this will happen if there is no transfer ambition.

Of the trio you mentioned, it is only Salah that I think will leave; Trent may likely leave too because Real Madrid sometimes always get what they want at the end, but for VDJ, Liverpool will make sure not to lose him now that the season is about to start.

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