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legendary
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April 06, 2023, 04:34:16 PM
There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

That's generally true for games with fixed mathematical odds, such as dice, or roulette. But even then sometimes is possible for a player to have an advantage, i.e. if there's a high accumulation jackpot to be won or for the games like blackjack, there's a strategy of card counting

But the real fun begins where the odds cannot be strictly determined by maths, but where there's an element of judgment needed, i.e. in sports betting. Then you could run your own odds analysis and if you spot an opportunity where (in your opinion) a betting site misjudged the odds - you could take advantage of that. But the best example of a strategy that gives you the advantage is arbitrage betting, but you can get banned for doing that.

hero member
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April 06, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.
That's right, friend, there is no way to change the odds in your favor except for luck.
Indeed, there is no strategy that can go against the house because the house is the owner of the absolute victory in gambling, but do you not understand that using strategy can at least provide small opportunities for gamblers to take advantage because playing carelessly relies on luck just like someone who does charity (easy to lose money).

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Other than that, there is no way one's losses can be exceeded by wins. If that was possible, the casino business would not be much profitable for their owners and they would have a hard time maintaining a good enough bankroll for all their operations.
The casino business can generate a lot of money and profit because of the many gamblers who have managed to win and surpass defeats, only one or two people so that whatever wins these people get can still be covered by defeat from most of the other gamblers who lose money.
If we do research, there are not many professional gamblers who manage to get big wins regularly, in fact there are more novice gamblers who will only continue to deposit their money so that the casino will always have an advantage.
hero member
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April 06, 2023, 01:24:58 PM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.
I want to know what strategy you use when betting outside of soccer betting, I can also understand when you rely on analysis when betting on football, but how do you see the odds when we play slot gambling and so on. I have heard a lot about the number of spins in slot systems and will stop in the same pattern over and over again at the chance to win, but also not so sure we are on a fair spin. How far can our intelligence reach the system, especially when the system starts to restart.

For me the system is very fair in betting on football as a place for fun and although I also often use other bets when there is an opportunity to play, because every time we place a bet we will make a convincing analysis for a particular bet. Am I missing something from today's increasingly sophisticated gambling systems?
hero member
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April 06, 2023, 12:38:34 PM
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Although technically true, in reality this way of thinking doesn't help you much, to be honest. And that is so because when playing a game with 99% RTP instead of 96% RTP you are not guaranteed to win anything. What you are guaranteed it to lose less in the long run. And that "run" is very long. It is so long that it may never happen.
True, but in some cases people blindly gamble in games that are extremely bad in terms of odds. Casinos make those games just in case someone doesn't care at all about the odds, and those basically make the casino win almost all the time. Of course it's designed so that it doesn't feel like that, it will give you small wins here and there, but overall the ratio would be hugely in favor to the casino.

If you play other games like roulette, etc, then it's more straight forward. I mean, I've seen people play on a roulette with a double zero in it when a roulette without a double zero was just next to it. That's just weird in my mind.
So the bad odds that you mean are high chance games? Because, you mentioned something about small wins there. I think bad odds can also be the games which the player has a much lesser chance to win like for example in the lottery. The only good thing about them is that the wins are also huge once you hit them.

It's not that people gamble blindly but gambling is only built that way, for the people to play for fun with less expectations that they can earn a profit. Other than the odds, the casino can also win most of the times because of the house edge. About the roulette game, there are different types of it (ie Amercian, Russian, European, etc.) Some has a zero while the other don't have it. Maybe some just prefer a roulette game with zeros on them as they think they are luckier on it.
legendary
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April 06, 2023, 11:05:33 AM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.
Nope. There's absolutely no need to try multiple different strategies before committing to a specific one. It's literally all about figuring out a way to shift the odds in your favour at least a little bit. Making mistakes and getting experience in losing money with poor strategies doesn't make you any smarter nor does it give you any advantage.

And it's not about winning every bet, but about having profits that exceed losses in the long run.
There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

Other than that, there is no way one's losses can be exceeded by wins. If that was possible, the casino business would not be much profitable for their owners and they would have a hard time maintaining a good enough bankroll for all their operations.

That's actually right, there's no such thing in gambling as odd and luck. You can call it like that in your winnings but it's more likely about the probability that you've bet. Sometimes casino would let you win easily for you to bet more and be addictive with such pattern. But still they can't control it especially if its a legitimate casino. My technique is don't be attached on your winnings and aim for more. If you think you've gained enough, then you could call it a day. However its still up to you, some would still bet their profits to huge prize and could win the jackpot. Which I couldn't risk since I don't believe in luck.

Better than nothing at all, I can go with how you play your gambling style, though you are right that there are gamblers who will continue in aiming more instead of stopping and enjoying what they've already earned. Some that taking the advantage of some luck with them and trying to maximize everything.

But, the outcome is un-controlled, and no one knows if they can continue to win and maybe quit with huge profits.

Or, they will just bring everything back to the house and worse, they will include their original bankroll.
sr. member
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April 06, 2023, 06:31:38 AM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.
Nope. There's absolutely no need to try multiple different strategies before committing to a specific one. It's literally all about figuring out a way to shift the odds in your favour at least a little bit. Making mistakes and getting experience in losing money with poor strategies doesn't make you any smarter nor does it give you any advantage.

And it's not about winning every bet, but about having profits that exceed losses in the long run.
There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

Other than that, there is no way one's losses can be exceeded by wins. If that was possible, the casino business would not be much profitable for their owners and they would have a hard time maintaining a good enough bankroll for all their operations.

That's actually right, there's no such thing in gambling as odd and luck. You can call it like that in your winnings but it's more likely about the probability that you've bet. Sometimes casino would let you win easily for you to bet more and be addictive with such pattern. But still they can't control it especially if its a legitimate casino. My technique is don't be attached on your winnings and aim for more. If you think you've gained enough, then you could call it a day. However its still up to you, some would still bet their profits to huge prize and could win the jackpot. Which I couldn't risk since I don't believe in luck.
sr. member
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April 06, 2023, 01:30:15 AM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.
Nope. There's absolutely no need to try multiple different strategies before committing to a specific one. It's literally all about figuring out a way to shift the odds in your favour at least a little bit. Making mistakes and getting experience in losing money with poor strategies doesn't make you any smarter nor does it give you any advantage.

And it's not about winning every bet, but about having profits that exceed losses in the long run.
There is basically no way to shift the odds in your favor unless your luck supports you every single time you gamble. No strategy can turn the odds against the house and give you an advantage while the house already has an edge. The only thing that might allow a person to have maybe a little bit of profit, in the long run, is they just withdraw as soon as they win a good enough price.

Other than that, there is no way one's losses can be exceeded by wins. If that was possible, the casino business would not be much profitable for their owners and they would have a hard time maintaining a good enough bankroll for all their operations.
hero member
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April 05, 2023, 08:38:07 PM
~snip~
Although technically true, in reality this way of thinking doesn't help you much, to be honest. And that is so because when playing a game with 99% RTP instead of 96% RTP you are not guaranteed to win anything. What you are guaranteed it to lose less in the long run. And that "run" is very long. It is so long that it may never happen.

True, but in some cases people blindly gamble in games that are extremely bad in terms of odds. Casinos make those games just in case someone doesn't care at all about the odds, and those basically make the casino win almost all the time. Of course it's designed so that it doesn't feel like that, it will give you small wins here and there, but overall the ratio would be hugely in favor to the casino.

If you play other games like roulette, etc, then it's more straight forward. I mean, I've seen people play on a roulette with a double zero in it when a roulette without a double zero was just next to it. That's just weird in my mind.
legendary
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April 05, 2023, 03:49:02 AM
If you are lucky and you are using a system that helps to add confidence with your gambling the chance of winning huge can happen, as long as you are good in limiting yourself and following your set goals, the quicker you act with your winnings the better you can withdraw a good amount of profits.

Sometimes or most of the time greed also influences instead of using your luck you missed the opportunities by keeping pushing for more.
I didn't quite understand what system you are referring to as being a boost for the confidence of a gambler, but I agree that discipline and limitations can really put a gambler ahead of others, and patience too, of course. Knowing when to stop and withdraw if you have had a win is probably the best thing one can do on a gambling platform.

Those who don't act quickly and think they can multiply the amount they've won will surely face the consequences and will eventually lose it all again, so it's probably not wise to try your luck again if you have won a significant amount already as the house can win it back anytime if you allow it.

Sorry for my chosen word but I mean strategy that you are using, if you have a good strategy that you are comfortable and you trust the chance of making things to happen is possible, hitting huge winning is possible but then again, limitation and good money management plays a big role for you to avoid making mistake and losing more instead of taking some from the house.

Greed might be fit for those types of gamblers who always aiming to keep winning more instead of enjoying some profits that they already win.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 10:01:55 PM
casinos know how to get the money back from us even if we think we are smart enough. We need to know that we are always going to go back to the same casino where we make winnings from and try to make another profit like the previous way we came and make some good profits. Casinos know that there is high probability for gamblers to come back to play the same game after they have played and make winnings. When they come back with part of the money they make, they will surely lose back to the casino if not once, it would be gradually.
not necessarily friend. it all depends on one's luck.
there are also gamblers who, when they win big, then return to the same casino and play the same game, they get another big win.
well, even though it all depends on luck but by using a strategy on certain bets it brings us closer to small wins or big wins but there is no guarantee of winning.
in this case we can always use any strategy in gambling to get us closer to the chances of winning.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 07:14:03 PM
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 casinos know how to get the money back from us even if we think we are smart enough. We need to know that we are always going to go back to the same casino where we make winnings from and try to make another profit like the previous way we came and make some good profits. Casinos know that there is high probability for gamblers to come back to play the same game after they have played and make winnings. When they come back with part of the money they make, they will surely lose back to the casino if not once, it would be gradually.

Absolutely.

And in some cases it won't even be gradually, someone might get excited and bet it all in one night, and lose it all. They can transform a winning day into financial ruin in hours.

It's in the casino interest to make you think you're winning, that's why they have all the lights and sounds, etc, and also to keep you there as much as possible, that's why there are no clocks or windows, time never passes there. Also they give you free drinks and food so that you don't leave.

Their goal is to keep you attached to the machines as long as you have cash pouring in. Once you're dry, there's nothing else for you to do there. The music stops and the lights turn off.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 06:28:29 PM
And it's not about winning every bet, but about having profits that exceed losses in the long run.
I agree, whether you've got one or many strategies ready to be deployed in the games you're about to bet for. It all sums up that there's only one goal and that's to profit as a whole outcome from all of your bets.

Ratios doesn't matter because they're still just number and only you will care for it as if you've got good or bad statistics with these ratios. But that will be defeated if you've been profitable within the day, a week or a month. Depending on the period you'll set to check all of those stats of your wins.
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April 04, 2023, 06:16:31 PM
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You are right that luck is the most important factor in gambling. Without luck there is no chance of winning long term, but the longer we okay the smaller becomes the impact from luck. Any long term gambler will eventually reach the averages for his winning and losing chances. Unfortunately the chances for losing are slightly higher than for winning, that's how the casino manages to make a profit. The only real control a gambler has is the amount he bets, all the winning chances are predetermined by the casino games. That is why I try to keep my losses as small as possible, while still having chances to make a profit. Also important for me is to take a part of my winnings every time and save them. This helps me to grow my bankroll longterm and stay motivated for another big win.

The math is pretty clear, the longer you gamble, the closer you'll get to the estimated return of your probabilities, which are against you.

That means that you might get lucky once early on, but if you keep gambling you will inevitably lose to the house.

So, if you happen to win, quitting immediately is the smartest move.
casinos know how to get the money back from us even if we think we are smart enough. We need to know that we are always going to go back to the same casino where we make winnings from and try to make another profit like the previous way we came and make some good profits. Casinos know that there is high probability for gamblers to come back to play the same game after they have played and make winnings. When they come back with part of the money they make, they will surely lose back to the casino if not once, it would be gradually.
legendary
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April 04, 2023, 04:16:58 PM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.

Nope. There's absolutely no need to try multiple different strategies before committing to a specific one. It's literally all about figuring out a way to shift the odds in your favour at least a little bit. Making mistakes and getting experience in losing money with poor strategies doesn't make you any smarter nor does it give you any advantage.

And it's not about winning every bet, but about having profits that exceed losses in the long run.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 04:03:39 PM
If you are lucky and you are using a system that helps to add confidence with your gambling the chance of winning huge can happen, as long as you are good in limiting yourself and following your set goals, the quicker you act with your winnings the better you can withdraw a good amount of profits.

Sometimes or most of the time greed also influences instead of using your luck you missed the opportunities by keeping pushing for more.
I didn't quite understand what system you are referring to as being a boost for the confidence of a gambler, but I agree that discipline and limitations can really put a gambler ahead of others, and patience too, of course. Knowing when to stop and withdraw if you have had a win is probably the best thing one can do on a gambling platform.

Those who don't act quickly and think they can multiply the amount they've won will surely face the consequences and will eventually lose it all again, so it's probably not wise to try your luck again if you have won a significant amount already as the house can win it back anytime if you allow it.
legendary
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April 04, 2023, 10:29:46 AM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.

Precisely! it gives some opportunities but doesn't mean that you will win every time you place your bet, there are nights that you will be experienced defeats using the strategy that you think suits for that sessions, remember that in gambling risk is always present if luck is not on your side, then expect to lose even how big the chances of winning.

Following you with your statement, it's your experience that will direct you on how to react in each situation. If you lose, you need to quit for a while to limit your losses.

While if you win, you also need to stop to make sure that you are guaranteed to gain profits.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 06:34:03 AM
There's one thing about looking for the best betting strategies to choose, one has to have an experience while gambling in using more than one before they can decided on the one to choose that best suit their want, in gambling no matter how you developed your strategy, it may only increases your chances of winning abit but that doesn't mean you're not going to losses any match played, we bet to win or loose irrespective of how good our pattern is in gambling.
sr. member
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April 04, 2023, 04:55:16 AM
~snip~
You are right that luck is the most important factor in gambling. Without luck there is no chance of winning long term, but the longer we okay the smaller becomes the impact from luck. Any long term gambler will eventually reach the averages for his winning and losing chances. Unfortunately the chances for losing are slightly higher than for winning, that's how the casino manages to make a profit. The only real control a gambler has is the amount he bets, all the winning chances are predetermined by the casino games. That is why I try to keep my losses as small as possible, while still having chances to make a profit. Also important for me is to take a part of my winnings every time and save them. This helps me to grow my bankroll longterm and stay motivated for another big win.

The math is pretty clear, the longer you gamble, the closer you'll get to the estimated return of your probabilities, which are against you.

That means that you might get lucky once early on, but if you keep gambling you will inevitably lose to the house.

So, if you happen to win, quitting immediately is the smartest move.

This is somehow true.

Most of the time, casinos give the favorable odds to the players in the beginning. This is to encourage them to play and to deposit continuously because it's really fun and it's mostly more winnings at first. And of course the players will be enticed to gamble more and more due to the prizes they earned. But eventually, as time passes by, the odds of winning on that account will be deduced gradually to balance out the previous winnings to losses. Casinos will make you hooked up by letting you win.

Of course, this strategy is needed by the casinos to profit since after all they are still a business and not a charity to be giving people free money. Everything comes with a catch. So, it will really be a wise move if you'll know when to continue and when to quit to maximize your earnings.
hero member
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April 04, 2023, 03:35:32 AM
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You are right that luck is the most important factor in gambling. Without luck there is no chance of winning long term, but the longer we okay the smaller becomes the impact from luck. Any long term gambler will eventually reach the averages for his winning and losing chances. Unfortunately the chances for losing are slightly higher than for winning, that's how the casino manages to make a profit. The only real control a gambler has is the amount he bets, all the winning chances are predetermined by the casino games. That is why I try to keep my losses as small as possible, while still having chances to make a profit. Also important for me is to take a part of my winnings every time and save them. This helps me to grow my bankroll longterm and stay motivated for another big win.

The math is pretty clear, the longer you gamble, the closer you'll get to the estimated return of your probabilities, which are against you.

That means that you might get lucky once early on, but if you keep gambling you will inevitably lose to the house.

So, if you happen to win, quitting immediately is the smartest move.
hero member
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April 03, 2023, 08:53:25 AM
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In purely luck-based games(like the game in the OP, btw) it doesn't matter whether your emotions envolved, or it's "rational" judgment or a clouded one. It all depends on luck. Period.

A small correction. The above statement is true if you want to earn money through gambling. If your goal is to have fun, then, of course, it is more rational to not bet all your balance at once, but make smaller bets to last longer.

Yeah, it's all just luck, but you can help your luck by playing games that have more probabilities of you winning than others.

It's all math in the end, luck can be helped with it.

Although technically true, in reality this way of thinking doesn't help you much, to be honest. And that is so because when playing a game with 99% RTP instead of 96% RTP you are not guaranteed to win anything. What you are guaranteed it to lose less in the long run. And that "run" is very long. It is so long that it may never happen.
[Ieft]agree with your argument that almost all types of games in this gambling are based on luck and there is no guarantee of winning. Even RTP is only to reduce losses that are too big and can last longer in the game but in the end if you are not lucky and last longer in gambling you will only end up losing.
Maybe some gamblers think that choosing games that have a higher chance of winning, such as sports betting, is better, but in reality, if you are not lucky, you will also lose.
Gambling remains a base of luck, that's for sure.[/left]

You are right that luck is the most important factor in gambling. Without luck there is no chance of winning long term, but the longer we okay the smaller becomes the impact from luck. Any long term gambler will eventually reach the averages for his winning and losing chances. Unfortunately the chances for losing are slightly higher than for winning, that's how the casino manages to make a profit. The only real control a gambler has is the amount he bets, all the winning chances are predetermined by the casino games. That is why I try to keep my losses as small as possible, while still having chances to make a profit. Also important for me is to take a part of my winnings every time and save them. This helps me to grow my bankroll longterm and stay motivated for another big win.
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