Topic: Beware of DuckDice.io – My Disappointing Experience and Fairness Issues🚨 - page 2. (Read 2802 times)

Hi there,

Sorry for my long absence period,  my confusion with the time period  1st vs 3d was that I re-checked this thread and you did infact confirm here on the 3d of january permission to share the email based on this thread history.

As for OP's case, he has recently forwarded us an email with his inquiry to an regulatory authority which I actually believe is the best option for us as we will no longer be bound by GDPR restraints, and they're more than qualified to handle a dispute.


I have contacted Trustpilot in hopes to resture OPs previous deleted trustpilot review, where he provided the aditional information, once and if they do, I'll come here with an update.



Have a nice day!


Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

My thought is to take this post below and write it on my calendar; to wait for him to settle with his personal matter and get both of his feet steady to return to work, and then we'll hear what he has to say, and proceed from there.

@HolyDarkness,

Have you seen DuckDice.io's rep's responses?

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Hi Kirito89,


It’s clear now that you’re completely lost in your own web of accusations and contradictions. Just admit it: you’re busted, and you have nothing left to support your baseless claims. Your attempts to shift the narrative and blame others are painfully obvious at this point.

You initially said the connection was based on blackmailer emails, then it shifted to Trustpilot reviews. Now, you’re trying to twist timelines and invent "interesting coincidences" to distract from the fact that you have no evidence to back your accusations.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of users who have publicly claimed that Trustpilot has deleted their reviews, even when those reviews were verified. This isn’t some groundbreaking “coincidence” you’ve uncovered—it’s a well-known issue with the platform.

You asked me in your previous reply to provide the email from Trustpilot confirming that my review was deleted by them and not by me. I’ve done that, yet now you’re conveniently closing your eyes to it. Why are you ignoring your own request for evidence now that it doesn’t align with your narrative?

For you ref I  you permission on January 1st, and this was even confirmed by user Holydarkness in the thread. Your claim about January 3rd is a complete fabrication.

At this point, I’ll let the other users, including Holydarkness, weigh in on your behavior and shifting stories. I’m curious to see what they’ll say about how you’ve handled this situation so far.

I’m still waiting for you to provide the proof you claimed to have. If you can’t, then it’s time to publicly apologize for your accusations.

Despite all this back and forth, you have still not provided a single piece of proof—literally zero evidence—to support your accusations against me. Nothing.

Hi there,

An interesting fact, Trustpilot generally removes feedbacks on their own by filtering out for example, multiple feedbacks from different usernames, email adresses, originating from the same device/ip.

Another interesting fact would be that Trustpilot removed your review and additional information you provided there on the 2nd of january (the email connection I was reffering to) and you finally agreed to grant permission to disclose this on the 3d of january, after the review was deleted, even though I've asked for your permission to disclose it 7 days before that which you did not accept, quite a lot of interesting coincidences..

I'm currently still away due to personal matters, but will be back fully online on Monday.



Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

I’m not sure if you’ve read these screenshots thoroughly. I’d request you to post them as images so everyone can clearly see and read them. https://imgur.com/a/o4cjb4H  https://imgur.com/a/f1771CL   https://imgur.com/a/kR6Hh2F
 
Doesn’t it seem like he had already gathered proofs and was ready to post them? Or was he just trying to scare me into silence?

I’m honestly wondering how the narrative shifted so drastically—from Duckdice supposedly receiving blackmail emails from an address “similar to mine” to now centering the entire accusation on Trustpilot reviews.

First, it was claimed that the connection was based on emails sent by a blackmailer. Then, suddenly, it became about Trustpilot reviews and accounts. This kind of inconsistency makes it hard to take their accusations seriously. If they truly had proof, why hasn’t any of it been provided yet?

So, if you ask something from Kirito89 for proof and he somehow provides it” Yet, he hasn’t provided a single proof to support his claims”, that would be considered a “miracle.” But when it comes to me, I am expected to provide every possible piece of evidence to prove my innocence. Why is there such a stark difference in standards?

Also, if you check your PMs, you’ll find that I’ve already sent you a message where I explicitly gave my permission for Kirito89 to post the so-called evidence. There’s no miracle here—it seems like money is the real “miracle” in play.

Earlier, I posted a screenshot showing that my review was deleted by Trustpilot, not by me. Since it seems you may have overlooked it, here it is again for reference: https://imgur.com/a/cVtHQza

My conversation with Trustpilot explaining why my review was deleted: https://imgur.com/a/cMrwWYW
 https://imgur.com/a/ee1jqQ5
https://imgur.com/a/sxHWK7d
https://imgur.com/a/uBUpifi

I think it's a rather mess if I quote the post above in full, so I'll just reply without quoting in specific.

If I may provide from my POV, given I asked similar things as Kirito89, about the nature of your TP review removal, I simply find myself a bit curious and think it's strangely coincidental that the review was being deleted not long after you gave your consent [I am not sure which come first, the consent or the deletion].

I believe, if you see it from neutral ground, and allow yourself to mull over several sides simultaneously, you too will probably find yourself wondering why and how does the review got removed in a relatively close time with when the player that's being accused of blackmailing with a connection to similar email address on the review platform gave their consent for their email address being shown to public.

The fact that the other review that allegedly from the same player [you] also no longer available is certainly, understandably, heighten the degree of the curiosity the observer have in their mind.

In short and straightforward answer: there is a chance that the consent was given after the review got deleted by the player themselves to remove the evidence that's about to be given by the counterparty. Thus, the consent was given, because they've eliminate it and there is nothing that can incriminate them anymore.

Though I am certain, if we lean to your side here, that you can't provide the proof of why the other reviews made by other players [that's allegedly your alt] got removed, what you can easily do to disprove the doubt is to provide the email from TP explaining the review removal to you.

Now, regarding your rebuttal that it's Kirito's burden to show the proof of similarities, that he should provide the evidence and he should have it in screenshots, though I am not sure with how strict GDPR works, I believe this is what he tried to achieve: your consent before he can take the screenshot, in order not to violate any article of GDPR [if any] that describes the data controller are not allowed to keep any form of record of the data subject provided in other platform aside from the one owned by the data controller. [Layman terms: Kirito was asking for your consent before he can take any screenshot of your review in TP, that is not owned and not under the same roof as DuckDice, so not to accidentally violate GDPR articles, in case there is a clause that cover what data DuckDice may collect from other platforms]

When the consent was given and he's ready to take the screenshots though, the said reviews were gone.

And again, we can easily disprove this scenario by providing that email from TrustPilot.

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Kirito89, may I know if you do have a screenshot of those reviews and/or the email address [with similarities] in your possession prior to them being deleted? And, by some miracle [which I understand if you don't] do you happen to remember which come first? The consent or the removal?

You repeatedly asked for my permission to post the emails and conversations publicly to prove your claims. Despite my initial hesitations (due to concerns about privacy and your intentions, I eventually gave you explicit permission to share them publicly. Instead of acting on this, you disappeared from the forum without providing any of the evidence you claimed to have.

Now, you’re returning to ask whether I’m disagreeing with sharing these emails. This is extremely confusing because I had already granted you the permission you sought. Why didn’t you act on it back then?

Earlier in this thread, you stated that you received emails from a blackmailer asking for a ransom, and you claimed these emails were sent from an address identical to mine but differing by one letter. You said you were about to post this evidence publicly after receiving my permission.

Now, however, you’re changing your narrative, claiming that the alleged connection is based on the email address I used for my trustpilot review. Why the sudden shift in your story? If the earlier claims about receiving emails from a blackmailer were true, why are you now attributing this connection solely to a tRustpilot review? Was the blackmailer story fabricated, or are you deliberately shifting the narrative to avoid accountability?

You’re asking me to provide confirmation from trustpilot regarding the review’s removal. I will, but why should the burden of proofs fall on me? Duckdice.io yOU (Kirito89) made the accusations and claimed to have evidence. It’s your responsibility to provide the proof, not mine.

If you genuinely had evidence, why didn’t you secure it back when you first made your accusations? Blaming the removal of the review on your "big mouth" feels like an excuse to cover up the lack of actual proof.

Furthermore, you know exactly what I wrote in that review because you had responded to it. So, why are you now asking me for confirmation from Trustpilot? You were fully aware of the content and context of my review before it disappeared.

Let me be very clear: I did not delete my review. It was removed by Trustpilot.

Hi there,

Sorry for my long period of absence on this thread, due to some personal matters that I had to deal with I've been kept away more than I would have liked.


Just to get back on narrative, cause to be fair the last posts by you OP seem confusing, do you now disagree against sharing the emails that show the connection between you and the blackmailer?

For full transparency,  the email connection I've had linking OP was due to the trustpilot review he has posted, the one he confirmed in this thread as being his aswell, where we can request further information and are able to see more info provided by OP, including email address he used to provide that review.  In the meantime ( and likely due to my big mouth as I've stated I can link him due to the emails) his trustpilot review dissapeared, making the information unavailable.   I've currently contactd trustpilot in the hopes they restore the provided information.   But in the meantime OP, can you provide a confirmation email from trustpilot that they have removed the review? ( they send an email notification if one of your reviews gets taken down) And that it wasn't you who deleted it ?



Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

Okay, that's two instances, with the one I previously mentioned that I was aware of, on #94, and the other that I early on missed, on #30, which after re-reading it, I got the impression that he's aiming to get it reviewed by limited eyes instead of publicly, as that probably quite doable with several red tapes cleared, which later escalated to be a permission to have it done publicly on #94, probably under the heated argument, and this is where [I imagined, not necessarily have to be the real scenario here] that he was told by his colleague and/or when he asked his supervisor for the permission he was informed that the red tape has become red solid bars of steel.



What I expect you to honestly not expecting from me is to point out the explanations I've give numerous times about how DuckDice's explanation never changed. Like... really, I've write high and long and tall and deep. I am not interested to write another essay. Remember "paradoxical" and "moot"? This is the textbook instance why having multi-acc about one case is not encouraged, because it make things very hard to follow... or, in your case, to back-track. And now you have three.

Before you weaponize my words of "not interested" into something ugly and/or against me, I'll clarify, I really am not interested to dig through your threads just to link you my explanation because I have done it, you can dig it yourself, and I have lot of other things to attend, I am not just overseeing your case, I simultaneously oversee perhaps half a dozen cases at a time, maybe more.

I believe you can clearly understand that it'll be exhausting and time consuming if I have to re-read all of your threads just to link you to what I've said and what I strongly believe you've read.


Isn't it the whole point of this past few discussion [that actually, IMO, have moved far too south from the original point of the thread that you proposed at the beginning of it; proof the fairness of their game]? Red tape? Red bar of steel? Privacy?

May I ask what you're really trying to achieve here by asking that question while we all know we're here in this very point where we currently stand because of exactly that?


Again, already explained and I expect you not to expect me to point out to those explanation.

The screenshot itself is actually self-explaining. You revoked your customer agreement, thus initiate the "right to be forgotten" act of GDPR, which was coherent [and show consistency] with the next screenshot you provided: you self-deleted it by revoking your customer agreement.


Which narrative being shifted?

edit: Oh, almost forget, where were we with that review removal from TP? Did they send you an email explaining why it got deleted?

When Kirito89 was asking me repeatedly to give him permission to post those emails and conversations publicly, why didn’t anyone stop him or point out that such information shouldn’t be requested publicly? Why didn’t anyone remind him that this kind of data shouldn’t be shared so casually? I’m sure you’ve read this part as well, and I’d like to hear your thoughts on it.

Was Kirito89 not that professional, or was he unaware of his site’s terms, What should we call this? Was he trying to silence me? oR was he attempting to publicly label me a scammer by asking me to give him permission so that he could post the emails he claimed to have received from a blackmailer? I don't believe they actually received any emails from scammers; it could be them creating this drama to discredit my thread against them.

You mentioned that you couldn't find instances where Kirito89 asked for permission to publish the data aside from one. Here are the screenshots again for your reference: https://imgur.com/a/6yTLgbm https://imgur.com/a/17vZu5H  https://imgur.com/a/SZHEeZK 

If you take the time to read through his responses thoroughly, you’ll notice how many times he has changed his narrative throughout this issue. But honestly, I don’t expect you to point out any of his inconsistencies or mistakes.

Meanwhile, you’ve never asked Duckdice.io representatve  to prove their accusations or claims against me. Why is that? Like this one: https://imgur.com/a/pCGawpm

Have you ever asked Kirito89 to prove his claim that I said it’s a coincidence that the blackmailer’s email and mine are similar but different by one letter?

Did you also read where Kirito89 claimed that he found out from his support team that my account was deleted by me? Link: https://imgur.com/a/zBKH7c7

While in another instance, he stated: “We don’t actually delete accounts until it’s user-requested.” Link: https://imgur.com/a/Uj6F1nl

This clearly indicates that a user can’t delete their account independently—it has to be done by support. Doesn’t this contradiction point to another one of his inconsistencies?


Let’s not forget, it was Kirito89 who initially accused me and then shifted the narrative multiple times to align with his convenience. Isn’t it worth questioning?

Umm... actually, I can't find the other instances where he asked permission to publish the data, other than on #94. Unless I am wrong? Do you mind to point us out to the other --at least-- three other instances?


Given that question directly entailed by a term, where if I believe his accusation is true then I have to oppose the flag and if I believe it's wrong then I have to support the flag, I will refrain from giving my opinion for the time being, thank you.

Your flag is based on the whole issues as depicted on your thread, and to support the flag I'll have to affirm to the best of my knowledge that what transpired is true, while what transpired and the reason of the flag is not just about the multi-acc. Or... is it?

So, without further context to validate/invalidate that part of the situation, I don't think I can pull a definitive answer.

Anyway, I realized we had an unfinished discussion about your review that got deleted, I understand correctly that it's against TP's policy to post a review about an experience that happened more than a year ago? Granted, I can find a mention that they prefer a fresh review that is not older than 12 months, but not about they'll delete it as it's against their policy.



Just to keep us assured, did they send you an email about the removal and explained to you that it got deleted due to the reason you specified to us?

When Kirito89 was asking me repeatedly to give him permission to post those emails and conversations publicly, why didn’t anyone stop him or point out that such information shouldn’t be requested publicly? Why didn’t anyone remind him that this kind of data shouldn’t be shared so casually?

I had initially refused because I knew the risks involved, but it felt like if I didn’t comply, people__perhaps even you_might be the first to consider me a cheater, blackmailer, or accuser.

You do realize he asked for this permission more than four times, don’t you? Yet I don’t think you’ve reviewed those exchanges thoroughly.

That said, I’ll ask you directly, Holydarkness: Do you personally believe his accusation that I blackmailed them is true? If you believe his claim is true, I would respect your decision to oppose my flag against Duckdice. But if you believe his accusation is false, Support my flag against them until they address and clear everything publicly.

For that exact reason in your own sentence: private matter.

I can assure you that he did not divulge anything private or violate your privacy at any degree during our conversation, but for the same reason, the topic can not be discussed in public... well, it can, technically, but it will be outright back-and-forth plain, that'll take probably days as it happened on post-by-post mode instead of a direct chat and most importantly, boring.


Will skip this as this is none of my business, I don't need this headache, and fully at theirs and your hand.


Ahh yes, my apology. I remember now that saw it somewhere sometime ago. It slipped my mind. Noted.

I’d like to ask: why did Kirito choose to address you in private when this is a public matter? Wasn't  he asking me to give him permission to post it publicly? I’ve been sharing everything openly, so it would only be fair for their responses to be transparent as well.

To resolve this issue, I believe Duckdice should publicly apologize here for falsely accusing me and leave a neutral post on my profile acknowledging their mistake. Once that’s done, we can move forward and focus on the main issue that I’ve been consistently raising: the accurate and fair resolution of my bet results.

I want to emphasize that I have no personal grievances against Duckdce. My sole concern is ensuring clarity and fairness in the results of my bets. However, given their history of accusing users and manipulating bets in the past—and the fact that they have accused me as well—I’m finding it hard to trust their legitimacy.

Regarding your question, I have indeed posted my email address earlier in this thread . To clarify, here’s the screenshot showing my email address: https://imgur.com/a/tvK4qIA

I can get to a length and wall of texts explaining the "technical" itself, really, as it involves a lot of factors. But, simplified, I want you to rest assured that I am actively in touch with Kirito, even now, to get this thing in motion.

One thing that keep on stealing my focus, though, do I somehow miss the part where you posted your email address yourself? Because I think I've read through this thread very carefully and followed every posts and links, but I don't think I've actually seen your email address being divulged?

How did this suddenly become a "technical issue"? Initially, Kirito was ready to post the information but stated that he was waiting for my permission. Now, after I’ve publicly given my consent and even posted my email address myself, how is privacy still a concern? Don’t you think my privacy is already revealed?

Additionally, why was Kirito trying to frame this as if I were blackmailing them? And over 0.01 BTC? That’s absurd. It’s frustrating to see these attempts to divert the focus rather than addressing the questions directly.

Regarding my Trustpilot review, it was removed because I provided proof that was older than one year, which goes against TP policies. That’s the sole reason it was taken down. I’m not sure why this makes you suspicious, but I’d appreciate it if you could come straight to the point. What exactly are you trying to imply?

Here’s the link to my review that was removed by TP https://imgur.com/a/cVtHQza

Let’s focus on the main issue regarding the bet results, as the core aim of my post has been diverted multiple times to unrelated topics. For instance, Kirito's claim that they receive similar emails and posts every year or so and pay to avoid exposure has not been addressed properly. He hasn’t explained why they pay or what the blackmailer threatened to expose that prompted such payments.

Moreover, he called me a scammer and tried to divert the matter, framing it as if I was sending them emails and demanding money without any proof. This constant diversion from the primary issue only delays resolution and adds unnecessary confusion. Let’s stick to addressing the actual issue at hand.

Kirito89: Since you ignored earlier:

Is it truly a coincidence that these emails always seem to appear conveniently after someone publicly calls you out? This raises serious questions about your narrative and whether these “blackmail attempts” are being fabricated or manipulated as a tactic to discredit anyone who challenges your platform.

If I may - When exactly did you last pay a blackmailer, and what was the specific issue they were using to blackmail you? What made you so afraid that you decided to pay them despite claiming their accusations were baseless?

Hi, sorry, I was just able to get to the forum.

Regarding the silence, I've had a talk with him earlier, summarized, it's just a small technical issue that hopefully he'll be able to sort out soon. If I may throw a guess, I think it's the old-school situation of casinos respecting and keeping their customer's privacy close to their heart that even with the customer's consent, they can't share sensitive data publicly.

I believe Kirito is trying to get this sorted out.

Though I have to agree that, IMO, this topic is a bit irrelevant, I can't help myself to be a bit curious, so I finally decided to take a look at this review on TP myself, just to satisfy my curiosity and, to my surprise, I actually can't find it. Where was your review, again? Was it removed? Why?

There’s still no response from him. I’m wondering what kind of workload could prevent him from addressing this, as this issue seems to fall under their responsibilities as well.

Once this matter is resolved, I’d like to shift focus back to the main issue, which is far more important and needs attention.

Yeah, I noticed that, also noticed that he's not back online since January 1. Let me try to nudge him, perhaps it's something as simple as he's still busy with the workload that was put on pause during his leave and was not able to return to the forum yet.

Please be a little bit patient, I'll reach him now.