Topic: Beware of DuckDice.io – My Disappointing Experience and Fairness Issues🚨 (Read 2802 times)

The matter why I am not asking for proofs are already explained in abundance [just like other points asked and answered on this thread], they will gladly provide all the proof requested by the arbitrator once you raise your case to AG. Because through that way, not only we have a credible entity who can validate or invalidate findings, they will also minimize the risk of GDPR violation. They simply wait for you to raise to AG.

The sooner we can get it up on AG, the soone we can get things back in motion.

The only thing baseless here is your empty accusations. Despite being asked over 15 times, you’ve failed to provide a single piece of evidence to back up your claims. You kept "roaring" that you had proof and would share it, but when it’s time to deliver—nothing.

It’s interesting how molydarkness hasn’t asked you where those supposed proofs are? and why he will ask you.

As for your so called blackmail drama that’s just the usual Duckdice tactic, this drama is just to silence anyone who speak out against you in publicly. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if you, Kirito89, are the one sending those self-emails and staging this nonsense just to create a distraction.

While the Drama is proven already

Care to actually answer this ?


How about your request from Trustpilot? I am sure you found what you were looking for, but you don't want to share it as there was nothing suspicious.But your Excuse.

At this point, I think it is safe to assume you're grasping at straws, to build a strawman, in order to make it do a witch hunt and throw muds in hope it sticks.

The explanation to your whole posts is simple, someone who can figure out a way to get to a very old thread in two minutes should have been able to figure the difference between your case and the other one.

Your case, got your whole data deleted as it's been a year, there were time elapsed since the "right to be forgotten" being enacted to the time you requested your betting history. That user, had recently asked his right to be forgotten and the process is still ongoing.

If we have to use the "burning book" analogy, the fire just lit and started to eat several pages, hence some pages are still readable. Yours, is an ash. That probably already blown by the wind. Nothing left.

How is this hard to understand? I honestly can't see it's hard, as the explanation of the gradual process itself is already explained on that thread. Unless you deliberately choose to ignore the explanation and refuse to understand.

About proof of you requesting Art. 17 of GDPR, again, it's been explained. The whole paradox and all. In the current state that I am now [I've brushed it on my previous post], I have no mood to re-explain, nor that I think it's necessary, as the explanation has been made in abundance. All you need is to open your mind when you read.

And AG. No time? You could write and overuse the font-editing feature of the forum and repeat same points over and over again, but you don't have time to write to AG? I'll suggest you to perhaps write them instead of repeating things here. It might bring us somewhere.

Not tagging anything specific in this as at this point you ignore facts 100%, you throw in lies between the lines to make your smoke show more believable etc.

Like I've already stated long ago, I was able to dig out your betting information, even though I can't link them to your username, I can see the bets placed on that server seed/client seed, so you've actually helped us with this matter when you confirmed that you gambled on that server/client seed, thanks OP.  Managing to do that has confirmed that you have infact lied, you have not placed any 15.5% bets, you have not encountered any "huge loss streak" you simply lied from your 1st post, made fake accusations just so that you can strong arm DD into paying you anything.

Now, please stop with this nonsense and running in circles, the other fake threads that you have created and will probably create, and submit already your fake complaint to AG so I can provide them inside company data that shows you are nothing but a blackmailer and a scammer.

Thanks,


Kirito89

Duckdice Support.

I didn’t actually mean it like that. When I said "Who committed suicide" I was talking about this. If they can provide it, it means the data was not erased and their statement that your data is no longer exist is false, thus, a lie, and logically they will not say this as it'll be a reputation-suicide. They have already been caught lying. Check this out: https://imageshack.com/i/pm9iqIONj



Also, your "burn this book" example doesn’t work anymore because Kirito89 replied to that user himself. The screenshot shows they still have data like bets, IPs, emails, Profit and Lose, Chats and all that. https://imageshack.com/i/pnrbLsYoj


So who’s in the wrong here? you or Kirito89? Nvm you both are right it was the guy who requested account deletion. Becouseeeeee...

Did they break GDPR or not? If they’re keeping other people’s bets, transactions, IPs, emails, profits/losses, Usernames and chats, why not mine? Is it because I called out their fairness? Or because I lost big?

Regarding AG, Once I get free I will do that.

Also Kirito89 how about this:



Holydarkness any proof of me requesting account deletion? Why you claimed this?



I am stopping myself not to post on that thread as Kirito89 already asked me not to post everywhere, but believe me Kirito89 there is so many questions now.

I correctly understand you're meaning to ask about and referring to one of the post where I show someone of my recent situation where I need blood transfusion, and yet still going to the forum and give a hand to the cases here despite the current situation? It's my intestine who committed suicide, or at least something somewhere in my digestive tract [as I don't want to be specific and oversharing here], made me leaking blood through certain hole like a faucet [literally] and made me suffer a rapid blood loss.

But need not to be worried, I'll be fine in a jiffy. Thank you for your sincere concern, though.

About DuckDice, I actually did, talked to Kirito89 several times, to ask about the most recent development with your latest plan to raise this thing to be tried and validated by AG, if he can see it from his side, given I still can't see it from my end, despite your latest statement about AG.

What happened with that plan?

Will it not be done? Asking because that is the best way to prove a lot of things officially, at this point.

There’s no magic,It’s really easy. Just search “Duckdice.io scam” or similar. You'll find threads where representatives like Kirito and Other have replied to the OPs. Then, go to their profiles and check the number of cases opened against Duckdice.io
To be honest, I used 2% of my brainpower for that. You learned this today right?

How will I know it that those post are from same person? But if you ask me, I belive that "Horse Buoy" is actually Kirito89. Wait a minute what? Yes,  let me refresh your weak memory once again.


Edit: Holydarkness who Committed suicide? You know what I mean? Did you call on Duckdice till now? I know you will not.

Definitely the same person. This seems to be an emerging trend on the forum and elsewhere: use AI to generate a well-written complaint against a casino in hopes of extorting something from them. There's at least 3 such cases currently happening right now.

The other thing they have in common is that no matter how clear the logic presented to them, their head will turn to stone as they power through it to continue harping on their same faulty logic.

Still, its worth pointing out that not all scam accusations are like this (some are very valid).

OP, with the emergence of a recent thread about DuckDice, I have to revisit our previous conversation that I choose not to chase at that time as I think it'll be better to address the matter of the issue you raised here: DuckDice's provably fairness.

To refreshen our memory, both you and the overseer, at that time, I wondered and can't help but being curious with how you ended with that thread, which you replied by an explanation that you stumbled upon it because you've been around this thread for several months and been searching within the forum for cases against DuckDice.

I frowned upon that explanation --at that time-- because, even if someone's been around for months and had way too many free time at hand, and choose to dilligently reading threads, I think the chance that they'll stumbled upon a thread this old and waayyy back is still minimal [yes, unbeknownst to anyone, I took a screenshot of the page number where that thread was, when we had the discussion, it is now in an even further greater page number] as I even need to utilize several efforts to dig that thread,



Funnily, that exact thread is, I believe, what Horse Buoy --the user who blackmailed DuckDice, that Kirito89 believe was you, and who you insist was not you-- use as their reference in their blackmail sent to DuckDice.



As I said, I previously choose not to chase it as I think it was not relevant to the issue being raised and our time would be better spent by clarifying DuckDice's fairness.

Given the neighboring case where Horse Buoy seemed to know about some details that should only be known to a thread owner, amuse me, which possibility do you think is most likely: Horse Buoy is omniscience or... they are all the same person?

I do read your thread, wrote it in my notebook in form of key points and other things that worth to be highlighted, in case my memory failed me, and that's how I can keep up with the entire development of this now-a-cluster-of-mess thread and point it out to you how the narrative from Kirito never changed, as well as how the thread has strayed from its original goal.


You seemed to failed to grasp what kirito tried to convey. What he propose by that post, instead of casting an impression and twist a narrative that he was the one who found every single piece of evidence even though you're the one who provided it [we're talking about that screenshot with your betID, in case it's not clear enough] is that he found a way to get us back on track with the topic being raised on this thread, to validate or invalidate the fairness, as well as the losing streak.

All we need to do is to get it to AG as you planned [TBH, I am surprised to learn that you haven't raise it yet, despite your repetitive mention to raise it to a third party mediator] where everything can be reviewed by the mediator in private and we can finally get this thing back in motion and ultimately get to the bottom of it.

As a side note, remember the part in my older post about people overuse the feature to edit texts on their post to point out things? Yeah, you've successfully went overboard with those color and size and bold. I'll suggest you to stop and only use them to highlight something crucial that needs to be highlighted. Otherwise, your posts and thread will look like a carnival.

Why are you giving the impression that you found the bet ID as proof that I was playing 33% and not 15.5%? Are you trying to twist it to your side? It was me who tried to provide you with every single piece of evidence to help you locate the problem, while you never provided a single piece of evidence from your side-none. Instead, you insist on baseless accusations.
Don’t make it private now. It was me who provided that bet ID screenshot earlier. Everyone can see it.

I'll reply to this as its relevant information, we've had legitimate threads against us, which were analyzed by the bitcointalk community, such as faulty deposit bonus T&C's,  but we've also had a bunch of fake accusation, followed by blackmail attempts, such as your case!


But to share a bit of good news,  and I'm kicking myself a bit for not thinking of this sooner, as we would have ended this spectacle 6 pages ago, while we can not link OPs account as its been deleted to bets made, due to him confirming with a screenshot, a bet he's placed on a server seed/client seed,  we were able to scrape from our bet history archive  the bets, chance %, bet amounts, and results played on that server seed/client seed.    Basically instead of searching in our database for bets placed by user X and get no results due to GDPR consent removal,  Should have simply filtered by bets placed on client seed X server seed Y, as that server seed/client seed combo was unique to OP, so while we can't actually see in the database that those bets are placed by OP, we have his confirmation on this thread that it was the actual seed/client seed he's played on.

So what we were able to dig out is quite simple, OP hasn't even played on the 15.5% chance, all bets he played ( manual and auto as he claimed he switched sides manually) were done on 33% chance.

While I'm currently not able to share here the bet archive file, due to company policy rules ( no show for internal company documents) I will be able to show it to any 3d authorized mediator. So please OP, you've stated in a recent email that you will contact AG, go ahead and do it so we can finally put this to rest.




Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

You would never have asked me if you had read my thread, my replies, and answered them honestly-only if you were a true mediator, not someone trying to look good in the casino's eyes. “Maybe in my case” Since you took over this thread, the Duckdice representative is openly accusing me, and you seem to be stamping his accusations. Maybe he has legendary member support, which is why others can't ask him to prove his claims.



I want to assure you with all my soul that it was not me who shift the focus from the main issue, I never expected them to blackmail me .I would like to emphasize that throughout the entire time, I was the one asking him not to shift the focus away from the main issue. I repeatedly told him to stop making accusations and to concentrate on the issue I had raised. But he twisted it. Below are my responses, where I clearly told him and requested him not to divert attention from the main issue with those baseless allegations.


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Was it me who shifted the narrative? No. I begged him not to do this. I even asked Kirito89, "Is it a coincidence that whenever someone raises an issue against you in public forums, you start receiving those so called "blackmail emails"? Or is it just a way to weaken the claims of the person speaking out?" Yet, he didn’t respond to that.

What reaction you're referring to, if I may ask, to be clear, in case it's not covered as below?

Why don't I react to him on vacation? Explained on previous post
Why don't I react to your demand to get a reply despite his days-off? Because you didn't show the level of... IQ-related-matter and the byproduct-of-extremely-cold-weather-to-droplets-of-water-in-the-atmosphere, you just show it now.


I have not, having problem of forgetting things or giving an overlook. But since you've nicely done your job color-coding the change of narrative you previously propose, let's break them down:


Still can't find a shift in narrative. If any, it perfectly highlight how his mind works, chronologically --and coherently.

On first post, he wrote about blackmails, on the second post, he further explaining how the blackmail worked and what the ransom was. On third post, he clarified that the "same" emails was, that it only has one letter difference, as he graphically explained on the second part of his first post, which later further explained on the fourth post, alongside with how he based his assumption from.

Might be worth to mention the interesting part that your quote of his posts, where you marked this post as first and that post as second and that other post as fourth, is not chronological. Yet, the topic and the point conveyed did not change, it supported each other. This is what we call as "coherent".

So, maybe you want to point us out again on what part you failed to see that he sticks to his narrative that lead you to strongly and repetitively assume he kept changing his narrative?


I believe he listened to you, he did not paid the ransom. May I ask what's the relevancy of this particular post with the situation we're trying to clear out: about how Kirito keep changing his narrative?


Because he's on vacation and get it back-to-back with personal issue? His disappearance from the forum has been explained on above post. Is it not clear yet to you? I don't mind to explain it again, really.


To tell holydarkness that he's on vacation, then to explain to holydarkness when holy demanded to know where did he went AWOL, that he had personal issue, of which holydarkness then [for the better part] left him alone to deal with the private matters.

Again, relevancies?


Why did he kept asking about permission? I believe I covered my assumption a few posts far back. About him being triggered and lost his cool. And later on, as well as why he wasn't going to do it, he already explained: GDPR restriction.


The nature and the content of the conversation between holydarkness and kirito89 already explained above, and holy believe horse will not find it too difficult to find that part.


He literally spelled it out on the post that you quoted and color coded. May I ask if sometimes you find obvious things hard for you to grasp? I am asking because you raised a question, and then you quote and color coded the answer to that very question.

He did not ignoring the need to post the proof. He can't because during his absence [or whenever that is] and due to his big mouth, the trustpilot review disappeared. He lose his evidence the instance it got removed, and he's currently trying to get TP to restore those reviews so he can provide the proof.

How Sweet-Imaginations. How beautiful-stories. Stop trying to look good in the eyes of the casino-you are good enough already.


Why didn’t you react at that time, when I was asking his presence, wasn’t he supposed to be on 2 days Holidays and what other work can be important than clearing their name in the public forum?


@Holydarkness please read it before you ask me where he changed his narrative? I noticed you have problem of forgetting things -maybe just in my case. I can prove that you forget things or maybe giving overlook to it-in my case.
-1st post of directly accusing me that I sent them emails from an email address similar to mine but different with one later demanding money from them. Also kirit89 giving me tips how to blackmail them.

-2nd I never asked them for money, nor did I discuss with them to pay me 0.01 BTC. This is another completely false accusation.

-3rd For the 3rd time kirito89 said: OP didn't take into account, that the blackmailer's email, and his email are unique, only separated by 1 letter (I asked him to provide proof of this accusation- yet non)

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-4th  I have frequently asked Kirito89 not to pay anyone using my name, but he twisted my words and said that the OP claimed it’s a coincidence that someone has a similar email to mine and is sending them emails asking for 0.01 BTC.

Once again i want to clarify that I am not behind the emails or messages demanding money or offering to remove reviews in exchange for compensation. It seems someone else, using a name similar to mine, is attempting to exploit this situation. i strongly advise you not to pay such individuals. If possible, i suggest you ask him if he can edit this post before you pay him so it can help you find out who is behind this post, (sounds funny).

as for reviews, iwant to emphasize that the post I made on bitcointalk is my first public complaint about my experience. On trustpilot, i left a single review detailing my concerns, which you’ve already responded to. Beyond these, I’ve had no involvement in any other posts or actions that might have impacted your platform’s ratings. my intention remains unchanged to share my personal experience and raise awareness about the issues i encountered with duckdice.io. i encourage you to focus on investigating my original concerns rather than conflating them with unrelated actions from other individuals.[/quote]

-5th  Kirito89 asked 4 times for my permission to post those emails publically to prove that I am the blackmailer
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6th Since he kept asking for my permission to share those emails publicly-the ones from which they were receiving requests for 0.01 BTC, as well as mine-so the public could see if the emails were the same and whether I had asked him for money, he asked me about four times for permission. I eventually had to give him permission, as (Holydarkness was more interested in that part). Finally, I granted him permission 1-Jan-2024 to post them, but instead of sharing the emails, he disappeared from the forum. When he returned on 7-01-2024, he contacted user Holydarkness privately, and then Holydarkness stated that it wasn’t possible to share those emails publicly. Like, seriously? Why did he keep asking for my permission to post them publicly if he wasn’t going to do it?
7th Here, user Holydarkness confirms as well (as he was interested in this part) that I gave permission for that.


8th. Kirito89 disappeared from the forum on 01/01/2025 due to personal issues. During this time, Kirito89 was in touch with Holydarkness privately, while Holydarkness continued posting on my thread. Then, on January 17th, Kirito89 returned to the forum with a completely changed story-shifting the narrative from supposedly receiving blackmailing emails to discussing Trustpilot reviews. Kirito89 completely ignored the need to post proof of the blackmail emails


9th After that, Kirito89 asked me to provide proof that I didn’t delete my review, but that Trustpilot did it. He requested the proof to include my email, which I provided.


10th Once I provided him with that proof, instead of addressing the evidence he asked for, he said this.



I am still waiting for Kirito89 to post the evidence, or it is time for him to apologize publicly.[/size][/b][/b]

Over the last few months I've noticed a spate of AI-generated complaints against casinos. When the problems these accounts have are explained to them by a forum member or casino representative, they either shift the nature of the complaint, add a bunch of unrelated information, or continue pounding on the same fallacy-laden argument (ala game-protect aka BlackyJacky). While of course some casino complaints are legitimate, I've found that 100% of the ones using AI are not. In short, a pattern seems to be emerging here (use AI to throw shit against the wall & see what sticks).

Yes, he is still watching the thread and has been spending about fifty minutes of his time trying to make sense of what he'll just ask below as he still failed to understand.

That said, if I may clear up several things:


My first reaction to this was, "what?" You're really demanding someone to address a matter during their day off?

Not trying to defend Kirito or DuckDice, but two things:

One, an employee is entitled to have their own time and spend it however they want on their holiday. It's their personal time, it's their rightful days-off. What's with this snowflake mentality of "I need to be served however and regardless the situation you're having"?

Two, though I am not 100% sure it applied to DuckDice, I think it is safe to assume the same situation apply: when an employee left their office, they leave their access to customer's personal data and everything related to it on their office PC, that they left out in the office. An IRL friend of mine works in this environment, where she'll need to access from her PC in her office to pull any data about her clients.

And as a side note, it is not for the benefit of the employee, that whole "leave your work at the office and spend your private time doing your personal stuff" thing. It's a company's way to protect their customer's data, to ensure that access are strictly confined and accessible only from the office. Thus, if we assume DuckDice apply the same policy, even if Kirito wanted to address your situation during his vacation, he has no access to it and had to return to his seat, in front of his work PC to gain access and provide those inquiries.

Why do he still able to respond to this forum, though? Well, most likely than not, as he's the handler of Kirito89 account, the forum's account are connected not only to his working station but also to his personal device [by his own preference, of course] so he can address forum-related matter promptly.

I hope this clear the matter above.


I... what?


This part, I agree. Reporting a fraud one year later or one second after it happened should have no different treatment. Both should be treated similarly with same degree of seriousness.

That said, I can't help but wonder why we move so far from that point, which literally the purpose of this thread --to validate or invalidate unfairness in DuckDice-- of which I believe also has been nicely covered and explained, to this... what I can only summarize as either grasping straws, witch hunt, or a total mess of incoherent ramblings.

I'll ask here and now to clarify our [all of us] situation: OP, what's are you trying to get from this thread?


And this is where I spent tens of minutes trying to read and re-read and re-read the post,  but still don't understand. What changes?

OP, the forum has this feature to edit texts. Bold, italic, underline, change the font color to red, blue, green, orange, yellow, PINK, or even other color of your likings, change the font size. You can even highlight it.

Many has failed to properly utilize this feature and overuse it where it's not necessary [like I just did above]. Perhaps you can try to dip your toe into it and utilize it for a good outcome and its proper purpose? Kindly make it clear where the changes and discrepancies are with those feature, that you try to point out to us?


He has personal matter that --I believe-- is urgent and needed him to put it as priority, and he clearly get a pass from his boss to take longer leave. Why do he has to put other things [yours] in his already full plate while his own boss cleared him from all duty to focus on that personal matter?

Again, what's with this snowflake mentality?

And to close, I'll repeat, I'll ask here and now to clarify our [all of us] situation: OP, what's are you trying to get from this thread?

Let’s clear your timelines doubts

Here is Holydarkness Post


Since you got permission, why didn’t you send it to HolyDarkness instead of going on vacation?

Wasn’t it important to prove your claims after receiving consent to share those emails?

As a representative of Duckdice.io, you chose to leave it unresolved for seven days?

Was there any proof with you by January 1st that I am the blackmailer? If not, then HolyDarkness is lying. If yes, you can post it today as well.


Did you also read this where even user Khaleed has stated that the outcomes he provided are useless since they don’t indicate which bets were winning and don’t clarify key details such as whether I was playing on the high or low side. This lack of essential information renders the so-called “bet history” you provided entirely meaningless for verifying fairness. Instead of reading his statement fairly and addressing the core issue, you cherry-picked his words to twist them in your favor.

You keep whining about me reporting this after a year. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again-it doesn’t matter when I report it, fraud and unfair treatment are still fraud. It doesn’t make any difference wheter I raised it a year or a day later- you are supposed to provide the full result and transparency. You are not supposed to start blackmailing and accusing users.

1.1. Where I sated that its a "Coincidence that blackmailer and mine emails are same?"(Focus on narrative changes)
Let’s see what you posted (Focus on narrative changes)
(Focus on narrative changes) What was you demanding my permission for? was you trying to scare me?
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After taking a break on January 1st, the day you were granted permission to post evidence of the so-called blackmailer emails, you disappeared from the forum and reappeared on January 7th with a completly different story.

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6. While permission was publicly granted to him on January 1st.


I hope Holydarkness is watching this.

Like I've previously said, I based my statement on the 22nd  due the this thread history and the time data you've posted on this thread .



I've contacted Trustpilot long before you showed that Trustpilot deleted the review. (Still doesn't disproves my point that trustpilot automatically deletes reviews from multiple reviewers made from the same IP address, device etc! .


I've been made aware of this email to the regulatory authority 4 days ago on the 24th, when you've forwarded another email to them that contained the previous ones aswell.



I fully stand by what I've stated!  But I'll refresh the information on your accusation:

1. You claim you lost 158 losses in a row for 0.37 BTC while chasing a 15.5% chance, this was disproved as soon as you shared a screenshot that displayed the bet id you were playing on.  (client seed, server seed, nounce) which we were able to verify the provably fairness of the seed.  Once the first 10000 rolls were verified, you imediatelly changed the story and said it happened somewhere around the 20-30000 bet mark,  when it was stated that its no problem and that we'll proceed to verify those bets aswell, you came up with the fact that you manually changed sides, so for you it didn't matter that the seed was provably fair verified, you changed your story once provably fairness became a verifiable option here.

2. You somewhat decided to come up with this accusation 1 year after the event happened!!, conveniently when your account was deleted.

3. While the trustpilot review being deleted, which provided a lot more information about it, I'm hopeful that there will be a way to get it restored with Trustpilot's help.  P.S- in the initial screenshot you posted of the trustpilot review your username there was horsebuoy,  in the recent screenshots you've shown now is senkbuoy, why is that?


4. I have never changed my story to fit "my narrative", I've claimed since the beginning that your  "unreal streak" never happened, proved it, but then you shifted the story on it. So yes, I'm 100% sure you're the same person behind the current blackmail attempts, as well as the same person we've been dealing with in the past here.



Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

Glad you finally showed up. Your "confusion" between January 1st and 3rd isn’t just some small mistake-it's part of the same pattern where you keep changing the story to fit your narrative. I gave permission on December 31st to share the email with Holydarkness, and you even replied on January 1st saying you would. You gonna deny that now? Here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64906839

Also, what's with you suddenly contacting Trustpilot after I proved they deleted my review, not me? Funny how that works, right? And what happened to your whole "ransom emails" story? Just dropped that when it didn’t fit anymore? Weren’t you about to post it publically?

By the way, I contacted the regulatory authority on December 28, and you were CC’d. Here:  https://imgur.com/a/RPEel6w So why are you acting like it's some new thing now? Still need some time to come up with something else?

Still waiting for you to show any proof of your accusations. If you can’t, it is time to apology publically for accusing a customer instead of helping him to address the issue.

There is a lot you have to address now as you have lied and you are you are now completely lost in your own web of accusations. Just admit it.