Beware of DuckDice.io – My Disappointing Experience and Fairness Issues🚨 - page 5.

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 07:20:49 AM

to clarify my bets were not on lightning speed ro Flashbets it was just standard manual bets. i understand that losing streaks can hapen, but 158 losses in row with a 15% win chance feels extremely unlikely and raised serious concerns about the fairness. I agree that without proof it is hard to make definitive claims, but the lack of transparency and unhelpful response from the admins only adds to the doubts. i am trying to get log in and share the bets, I’m just sharing my experience and advising caution based on it.

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about a high losing streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible. anyway, were you playing on their dice game? as far as I know, their dice game if provably fair, you can check the bets you've made on their games through provably fair verification tools and see if the results of your bets are correct or not.

I was just trying to wait for a win, hoping the odds would eventually balance out.i thought the losing streak would end, but unfortunately, it didn't, and i lost everything.

What made it worse was DuckDice’s lack of support during the whole ordeal. Their response was just “sorry, can’t do anything,” which felt really dismissive when I was losing so much. It wasn’t just about my strategy, i believe they were watching my rolls and they manipulate the results —POV. the platform is not friendly and more like unfair

Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts.

a lot of gamblers have felt the same way when they kept losing. sorry but as I mentioned before, while what happened is extremely rare it is still possible to happen. creating scenarios like "i believe they were watching my rolls and they manipulate the results" to make yourself believe that the casino is cheating is pointless since it is based on no facts but feelings only. As I mentioned before, use their provably fair verification tools to see if the result of your bet is correct or not.

I am not trying to be rude but gambling especially luck-based games can be unpredictable and a lot of things you might think will not happen could happen.

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Still waiting on this OP to provide his username to see if his claims are actually true.

I'm certain its not, and this is simply another blackmail attempt, we used to have a certain user doing this the past few years.

We are currently being spammed with fake reviews on Trustpilot, and it coincides with this thread being created

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https://imgur.com/a/OKAlIXC

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 06:49:13 AM

After reading some of the current bad reviews on trustpilot. it seems I’m not alone in feeling this way, given my experience and the feedback from others, I’d strongly advise caution and recommend exploring other platforms with better transparency and verifiable fairness before risking your funds on DuckDice.io.

This is one thing i don't usually do because there are may fake review and most of the site that rates about gambling site are mostly bought /paid review and can likely put one into danger. So what I does is that I quickly come here to see the best review from users because I believed that there are real time gamblers here and only them can give a direct rate from their experience. Like some of the review from this scam accusation would like go very far from people that wants to choose gambling site they want to gamble with.

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 06:49:13 AM

I tried DuckDice.io in Aug- 2023 , but my experience was very disappointing, I suffered an incredibly rare 158 losses in a row with the wining chances of 15.5%, resulting in a total loss of 0.37 BTC while i understand that losses are part of gambling, this lengthy losing streak raised serious doubts about the fairness of the game. The odds didn’t seem to align with the results, and i couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off, i even reached out to the admins during this time, but all I got was a simple, “sorry, I can’t do anything.” After reading some of the current bad reviews on trustpilot. it seems I’m not alone in feeling this way, given my experience and the feedback from others, I’d strongly advise caution and recommend exploring other platforms with better transparency and verifiable fairness before risking your funds on DuckDice.io.

Hi there, Kirito89 from Duckdice Support here

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I usually take these types of threads with a grain of salt especially since you came up with a scam accusation 1 year + after the incident, as other users have mentioned our game is provably fair, and you can use 3d party verifiers to confirm the fairness of the rolls.

Leaving that aside, can you tell me your duckdice username, and I'll look into it, to see if if this streak of 158 losses actually happened? Also for further proof you could actually download the bets aswell and post them here

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Waiting on your username so I can look into it,

Have a nice day!

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 06:49:13 AM

I tried DuckDice.io in Aug- 2023 , but my experience was very disappointing, I suffered an incredibly rare 158 losses in a row with the wining chances of 15.5%, resulting in a total loss of 0.37 BTC while i understand that losses are part of gambling, this lengthy losing streak raised serious doubts about the fairness of the game. The odds didn’t seem to align with the results, and i couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off, i even reached out to the admins during this time, but all I got was a simple, “sorry, I can’t do anything.”

What were you actually wanting from them after getting such losing streak? Had you reached the admin to get some lossback? Personally, I think they should have credited some lossback to you if your losing streak was true. The chance of getting 158 losses in a row at DuckDice is (0.845)¹⁵⁸ = 2.78e-12 or 2.78e-10%, which is extremely rare. Every gambler will blame the game as rigged or unfair after having such rare losing streak. However, I won't say that DuckDice game is unfair. You can also verify your bets on 3rd party verifier like: https://btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 29, 2024, 02:35:05 PM

Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 07:20:49 AM

to clarify my bets were not on lightning speed ro Flashbets it was just standard manual bets. i understand that losing streaks can hapen, but 158 losses in row with a 15% win chance feels extremely unlikely and raised serious concerns about the fairness. I agree that without proof it is hard to make definitive claims, but the lack of transparency and unhelpful response from the admins only adds to the doubts. i am trying to get log in and share the bets, I’m just sharing my experience and advising caution based on it.

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about a high losing streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible. anyway, were you playing on their dice game? as far as I know, their dice game if provably fair, you can check the bets you've made on their games through provably fair verification tools and see if the results of your bets are correct or not.

I was just trying to wait for a win, hoping the odds would eventually balance out.i thought the losing streak would end, but unfortunately, it didn't, and i lost everything.

What made it worse was DuckDice’s lack of support during the whole ordeal. Their response was just “sorry, can’t do anything,” which felt really dismissive when I was losing so much. It wasn’t just about my strategy, i believe they were watching my rolls and they manipulate the results —POV. the platform is not friendly and more like unfair

Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 29, 2024, 04:59:44 PM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on November 29, 2024, 07:13:29 AM

After talking to a developer friend, I no longer trust the probably fair system. We never know if they did something behind.

That’s interesting! Would you mind telling us why you dev friend thinks pf systems should not be trusted?
Well, some pf algorithms might be flawed or might have some loopholes which allow the casino to manipulate the results but it’s usuall easy to spot those flaws.

I was discussing with him in general, and he asked what you are doing. I said, um, playing games. He said never place the max bet. I asked him why. These games are designed with a provably fair system, and players can verify each bet. Since I do not know coding, I don't know how these things work; he did not bother to explain to me how they can be manipulated, but according to him. He could also design these games, and he believes that most online games are rigged. I did not debate because I didn't understand those things. I don't know what is possible and what is not possible. I still play in-house games but always play with what I can afford to lose.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on November 29, 2024, 02:24:07 PM

What I find hard to understand is how you managed to spend 0.37BTC in a losing streak? You should have stopped after a certain number of losses.

That's a lot of money if you had hold Bitcoin for the long term or bought some promising coins you might have won many times what you expected from gambling. Anyway it's your choice and you are free to spend your money the way you like.

I was just wondering the same, if I’m not mistaken it means the Op spent $200 on every bets since he said he lost 158 games which amounted to .37BTC.

Quote from: acroman08 on November 29, 2024, 02:35:05 PM

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about a high losing streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible.

I believe I read that thread and from what I can recall that one played more games than this one and lost all of them and after verifying it turned that he wasn’t cheated which he initially thought he was being cheated.

@op, I’m curious to see what you’ll get after verifying all your bets - if you do have the time to go through every single one of them please don’t forget to share with the community what the results were if there was any abnormal result amount them or if you were just unlucky to have lost 158 bets.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on November 29, 2024, 07:13:29 AM

After talking to a developer friend, I no longer trust the probably fair system. We never know if they did something behind.

That’s interesting! Would you mind telling us why you dev friend thinks pf systems should not be trusted?
Well, some pf algorithms might be flawed or might have some loopholes which allow the casino to manipulate the results but it’s usuall easy to spot those flaws.

OP, it’s true that the odds of hitting such a long loosing streak are very very low but it’s still possible. But as holydarkness already pointed out, duckdice games are provably fair. So, if you still can access your betting history, just use their verifier or this one to verify your bets and see if you will get the same results.

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 29, 2024, 02:35:05 PM

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about lose streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible.

Losing streak is not extremely unlikely. If you gamble very often, you will noticed that is do occur frequently. I have gambled very well on three gambling sites that I experienced it. I thought there could be a manipulation when I first experienced it on the first gambling site, but later I make use of another gambling site and the same thing later happened. Also it happened when I used another gambling site.

Those sites know how people can use of some strategies to look for money. They use the house edge to make sure they lost the money. That is just it.

yeah I know, I've gambled enough to know how often a losing streak can happen but a "high loss streak in a row"(which is what you can see on my post) like the one OP experienced, which is 158 times in a row, is highly unlikely to happen but still not impossible.

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 29, 2024, 02:35:05 PM

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about lose streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible.

Losing streak is not extremely unlikely. If you gamble very often, you will noticed that is do occur frequently. I have gambled very well on three gambling sites that I experienced it. I thought there could be a manipulation when I first experienced it on the first gambling site, but later I make use of another gambling site and the same thing later happened. Also it happened when I used another gambling site.

Those sites know how people can use of some strategies to look for money. They use the house edge to make sure they lost the money. That is just it.

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 07:20:49 AM

to clarify my bets were not on lightning speed ro Flashbets it was just standard manual bets. i understand that losing streaks can hapen, but 158 losses in row with a 15% win chance feels extremely unlikely and raised serious concerns about the fairness. I agree that without proof it is hard to make definitive claims, but the lack of transparency and unhelpful response from the admins only adds to the doubts. i am trying to get log in and share the bets, I’m just sharing my experience and advising caution based on it.

this isn't the first time I've seen someone posted here about a high losing streak in a row. yes, while extremely unlikely, it is still possible. anyway, were you playing on their dice game? as far as I know, their dice game if provably fair, you can check the bets you've made on their games through provably fair verification tools and see if the results of your bets are correct or not.

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Actually I don't see what you can accuse them of here, if you have a big losing streak it's not the site's fault maybe it's your luck or your strategy is wrong.

What I find hard to understand is how you managed to spend 0.37BTC in a losing streak? You should have stopped after a certain number of losses.

That's a lot of money if you had hold Bitcoin for the long term or bought some promising coins you might have won many times what you expected from gambling. Anyway it's your choice and you are free to spend your money the way you like.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 29, 2024, 07:06:10 AM

Losing 158 in a roll doesn't mean that the duck dice probably fair system is faulty or fraudulent to the point of opening a thread against them, and the admin or support you contacted is right because supoyhabe no access to prove either a game is won or lost and the support has a line of the job and stepping into verification and odds accuracy is out of their jurisdiction and should not be a bone of contention.

There's no problem with the number of losing rolls either it's 500 or more, but we're talking a losing streak here (as per OP), it is still too much even for 15.5% chance. I will still consider it unfair regardless of the reason and will not come back to that casino lol.

But I still commend OP, who continues to roll even if it's already a matter of concern for such a losing streak, I already stop if I end up on 80 losing streak if it were me especially for that chance..

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You do aware that games on duckdice are protected by provably fairness, right? As in you can ensure that both parties has no control over the outcome of each and every single bets as both parties [you and duckdice] contributed a factor to the outcome. Duckdice through server seed and the players through client seed. You can also verify the outcome through their verification tool.

And guys, it's provably fair, not probably fair. As in it's prove-able, not probable.

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Quote from: Horsbyname on November 29, 2024, 06:49:13 AM

I tried DuckDice.io in Aug- 2023 , but my experience was very disappointing, I suffered an incredibly rare 158 losses in a row with the wining chances of 15.5%, resulting in a total loss of 0.37 BTC while i understand that losses are part of gambling, this lengthy losing streak raised serious doubts about the fairness of the game. The odds didn’t seem to align with the results, and i couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off, i even reached out to the admins during this time, but all I got was a simple, “sorry, I can’t do anything.” After reading some of the current bad reviews on trustpilot. it seems I’m not alone in feeling this way, given my experience and the feedback from others, I’d strongly advise caution and recommend exploring other platforms with better transparency and verifiable fairness before risking your funds on DuckDice.io.

You have lost 158 times doesn't mean they have scammed you and it is obviously a part of gambling. And I think as they have not literally scammed you this should not deserve on scam accusation. I am not a fond of the site even I have never used this site but base on the assertion of you I think it should not be a scam.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 29, 2024, 07:21:50 AM

I agree on this. I was initially commenting to ask the winning chance rate since I overlook the post but what you said is correct since 158 losing streak sounds like something is wrong since the WR 15.5%.

While we agree that anything can happen in gambling, we do not expect a casino to drain your entire balance, no matter how big it is. If you place bets on a 2x multiplier and increase 100% on loss, with a 100 satoshi base bet, you will lose 4.194 BTC in just 22 bets. If you get 27 losses in a row on a 2x multiplier, you will lose 134.2 BTC!

Now, what do you think about it? If someone comes and says they had 27 losses in a row with a 50% win chance, would you say that can happen because anything is possible in gambling? I doubt their fairness if I get more than 15 losses with a 50% win chance. The gambler should be aware of these stats.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on November 29, 2024, 07:13:29 AM

I wonder if your bets were manual or if you placed a bet on lightning speed or something they have. Lightning bets have always been controversial, and I don't know if they are rigged. Having 158 loss bets in a row with a 15% win chance is too much. Even with a 10% win chance, the maximum losing streak I can think of is 100. I doubt their fairness if I get more than 100 losses in a row with a 10% win chance.

Unfortunately, we cannot say anything without proof. Their games are not open source, and no one can check if their game is rigged or not. After talking to a developer friend, I no longer trust the probably fair system. We never know if they did something behind. I am sorry for your loss. That is not enough to call them scammers.

I agree on this. I was initially commenting to ask the winning chance rate since I overlook the post but what you said is correct since 158 losing streak sounds like something is wrong since the WR 15.5%.

I think the duckdice representative can verify this since they still have the bet records of each player given that their dice game is provably fair.

Tagging @kirito89 here.

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to clarify my bets were not on lightning speed ro Flashbets it was just standard manual bets. i understand that losing streaks can hapen, but 158 losses in row with a 15% win chance feels extremely unlikely and raised serious concerns about the fairness. I agree that without proof it is hard to make definitive claims, but the lack of transparency and unhelpful response from the admins only adds to the doubts. i am trying to get log in and share the bets, I’m just sharing my experience and advising caution based on it.

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I wonder if your bets were manual or if you placed a bet on lightning speed or something they have. Lightning bets have always been controversial, and I don't know if they are rigged. Having 158 loss bets in a row with a 15% win chance is too much. Even with a 10% win chance, the maximum losing streak I can think of is 100. I doubt their fairness if I get more than 100 losses in a row with a 10% win chance.

Unfortunately, we cannot say anything without proof. Their games are not open source, and no one can check if their game is rigged or not. After talking to a developer friend, I no longer trust the provably fair system. We never know if they did something behind. I am sorry for your loss. That is not enough to call them scammers.

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